RuthC Posted October 1, 2014 #126 Share Posted October 1, 2014 OK, you're right. I can see me sitting in the dining room in my wool fedora, and people getting up, throwing down their napkins in disgust, walking out saying "I will not dine in the same room with that hat!! Don't talk foolish. That would be rude. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nana541 Posted October 1, 2014 #127 Share Posted October 1, 2014 (edited) Ok maybe we can move on to Jeans & Wife Beaters (sleeveless t shirts) in the dining room ;) that's good for at least another 10 pages! Edited October 1, 2014 by nana541 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted October 1, 2014 #128 Share Posted October 1, 2014 "Destroying the atmosphere" by wearing a hat? Don't you think that is a bit of an overstatement? Your misquote is the overstatement - if you had taken the time to read my post I was referring to frayed jeans, dirty tee shirts and sweaty muscle shirts as well as hats. In any event, since it is clear that you are either incapable of understanding the concept of generally accepted conduct in specific environments (being polite), or simply want to pursue the two-year old's tactic of perpetually asking why (being immature), there is no point in continuing the discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donaldsc Posted October 1, 2014 #129 Share Posted October 1, 2014 A gentleman does not wear his hat indoors. Any hat. Especially baseball caps. Very especially baseball caps turned backwards. DON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger_77 Posted October 1, 2014 #130 Share Posted October 1, 2014 After seeing multiple responses from OP' date=' have to agree. Oh well, bless his heart.[/quote'] I like your answer, and I "get it". Smooth Sailing! :) :) :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nana541 Posted October 2, 2014 #131 Share Posted October 2, 2014 A gentleman does not wear his hat indoors. Any hat. Especially baseball caps. Very especially baseball caps turned backwards. DON Oh where is that "LIKE" button! Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted October 2, 2014 #132 Share Posted October 2, 2014 A gentleman does not wear his hat indoors. Any hat. Especially baseball caps. Very especially baseball caps turned backwards. DON Concise and true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruising cockroach Posted October 2, 2014 #133 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Reminds me of something that happened with my wife's family a decade or so ago. My wife has, unfortunately, an uncouth redneck brother who wears his straw country/cowboy hat all the time, even at family dinners. His son, a teenager at the time, started to wear caps all the time as well. The young boy's grandmother (wife's and redneck brother's mother) took him aside and said to him, "if you want to be a gentleman, you do not wear a hat at the table". Sure enough, he has never done that again, and neither has his brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&G Posted October 2, 2014 #134 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Could we please all agree to let the OP have the last word. :rolleyes: Let him put his hat on and ride off into the sunset! Oh, I did not know that the OP was wearing a cowboy hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare POA1 Posted October 2, 2014 #135 Share Posted October 2, 2014 OK, fine..I don't get it. But still, nobody can answer WHY it is not polite to wear a hat to dinner. ("It just isn't" or "I was raised that way"isn't an answer) I guess nobody else "gets it" either. Read the whole thing at the link. In a nutshell, the removal of headgear is a sign of respect. http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2011/03/why-we-are-supposed-to-take-our-hats-off-for-the-national-anthem/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nana541 Posted October 2, 2014 #136 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Reminds me of something that happened with my wife's family a decade or so ago. My wife has, unfortunately, an uncouth redneck brother who wears his straw country/cowboy hat all the time, even at family dinners. His son, a teenager at the time, started to wear caps all the time as well. The young boy's grandmother (wife's and redneck brother's mother) took him aside and said to him, "if you want to be a gentleman, you do not wear a hat at the table". Sure enough, he has never done that again, and neither has his brother. That grandmother must have known my grandmother as those very conversations happened with my brothers and my grandsons :) Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmd98052 Posted October 2, 2014 #137 Share Posted October 2, 2014 (edited) A gentleman does not wear his hat indoors. Any hat. Especially baseball caps. Very especially baseball caps turned backwards. I don't disagree but it seems like times are changing just as women are going to be allowed to play golf at St Andrews, gay marriage is normal in many places, marijuana is now legal in some, and the world won't stop. In fact I'd argue that we live in a truly gilded age. It appears many are allowed to wear baseball hats at dinners - I've seen it quite a bit. Can't say it bothers me - their call. I'll enjoy my dinner with my table companions who most likely won't be wearing hats! Edited October 2, 2014 by pmd98052 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Boston Posted October 2, 2014 #138 Share Posted October 2, 2014 OK, fine..I don't get it. But still, nobody can answer WHY it is not polite to wear a hat to dinner. ("It just isn't" or "I was raised that way"isn't an answer) I guess nobody else "gets it" either. So are you saying you would have no issue with us wearing hot pink to your mother's funeral? In public, it's not about how you think or feel, it's about how others might think or feel. Otherwise you might be perceived as uncaring or selfish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruising cockroach Posted October 2, 2014 #139 Share Posted October 2, 2014 So are you saying you would have no issue with us wearing hot pink to your mother's funeral? Not quite the same but the lack of decorum and respect is quite nicely portrayed in the opening scene of the movie Gran Torino. FFWD to about 1:20 if you are impatient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired 07 Posted October 2, 2014 Author #140 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Your misquote is the overstatement - if you had taken the time to read my post I was referring to frayed jeans, dirty tee shirts and sweaty muscle shirts as well as hats. In any event, since it is clear that you are either incapable of understanding the concept of generally accepted conduct in specific environments (being polite), or simply want to pursue the two-year old's tactic of perpetually asking why (being immature), there is no point in continuing the discussion. You're absolutely right. There is no point in continuing a discussion with narrow-minded, intolerant people who still live in the past and are totally resistant to change. and, by the way, I have never seen a dirty tee shirt or a sweaty muscle shirt in a HAL dining room, but if I ever did it would certainly not destroy the atmosphere of the entire dining room, and it would have no effect on the enjoyment of my dinner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired 07 Posted October 2, 2014 Author #141 Share Posted October 2, 2014 OK. I'll end this here, because people are just getting a little too nasty and personal. Let me just say that I will continue cruising on HAL, I will continue to eat in the dining room, (hatless, of course) and I will continue to love cruising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seattlejoe Posted October 2, 2014 #142 Share Posted October 2, 2014 7 pages of hat arguments! Only on cruise critic, folks. The most entertaining show in town. If I had a cap to tip, I would. But unfortunately the maitre d' took it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxThrusters Posted October 2, 2014 #143 Share Posted October 2, 2014 (edited) I've always believed that a gentleman should take off one's hat when entering someone's home, when dining in public, when entering a place of worship/sacred/whatever, or showing respect to an individual or flag etc. Edited October 2, 2014 by MaxThrusters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiz'nBaers Posted October 2, 2014 #144 Share Posted October 2, 2014 My mother would have said "a gentleman always removes his hat at the dining table". My dad would have not said a word, but would have just flipped it off of your head at the table. Both got the point across to my brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted October 2, 2014 #145 Share Posted October 2, 2014 I don't disagree but it seems like times are changing just as women are going to be allowed to play golf at St Andrews, gay marriage is normal in many places, marijuana is now legal in some, and the world won't stop. In fact I'd argue that we live in a truly gilded age. It appears many are allowed to wear baseball hats at dinners - I've seen it quite a bit. Can't say it bothers me - their call. I'll enjoy my dinner with my table companions who most likely won't be wearing hats! This intrigues me and please know I mean absolutely nothing negative because I don't know what it means. If you have a moment, would you explain? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&G Posted October 2, 2014 #146 Share Posted October 2, 2014 7 pages of hat arguments! Only on cruise critic, folks. The most entertaining show in town. If I had a cap to tip, I would. But unfortunately the maitre d' took it! You are absolutely correct. My DH always wore his cap on HAL. Unfortunately he made a fatal mistake. One day I walked into the our stateroom bathroom and there was only his baseball cap on top of the toilet. DH failed to read the sign behind the toilet seat: "Please remove all caps before flushing". :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pms4104 Posted October 2, 2014 #147 Share Posted October 2, 2014 However people here try to explain the indoor hat syndrome for you, the only issue pertinent to your situition is this: HAL operates the ships and runs the show and gets to decide what is and what is not acceptable onboard, no matter how trendy, fashionable or acceptable something might be off the ship or in your locale. If you need further clarification, you might call HAL Seattle or shoot outs a letter to Stein Kruse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nana541 Posted October 2, 2014 #148 Share Posted October 2, 2014 (edited) Delete Edited October 2, 2014 by nana541 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruz chic Posted October 2, 2014 #149 Share Posted October 2, 2014 OK. I'll end this here, because people are just getting a little too nasty and personal. Let me just say that I will continue cruising on HAL, I will continue to eat in the dining room, (hatless, of course) and I will continue to love cruising. Yes, and you've been so sweet and nice, especially your post #140:rolleyes:. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Reid Posted October 2, 2014 #150 Share Posted October 2, 2014 You're absolutely right. There is no point in continuing a discussion with narrow-minded, intolerant people who still live in the past and are totally resistant to change. and, by the way, I have never seen a dirty tee shirt or a sweaty muscle shirt in a HAL dining room, but if I ever did it would certainly not destroy the atmosphere of the entire dining room, and it would have no effect on the enjoyment of my dinner. "Any comments or opinions?" These were the words YOU typed in your opening post. People gave their opinions; the majority just weren't the ones you seemed to hope for. If you ever ask for an opinion again, maybe you could suggest the outcome you would like in advance and save all the bother! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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