dcsam Posted January 3, 2017 #1 Share Posted January 3, 2017 We've cruised with Holland America and would compare it to the Red Lion, Best Western. How would you compare Crystal and Seabourn? Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Luxury Posted January 3, 2017 #2 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Ritz Carlton,Four Seasons Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2SailingNomads Posted January 4, 2017 #3 Share Posted January 4, 2017 All inclusive Four Seasons or St Regis, or Hotel 41 in London or Raffles most anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitob Posted January 5, 2017 #4 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I'm on board now. Sorry but I think raffles ritz and 4 seasons far exceed Seabourn It's more like a jw Marriott Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notjaded Posted January 5, 2017 #5 Share Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) Conrad or Park Hyatt, without the glitz. Edited January 5, 2017 by notjaded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tv24 Posted January 5, 2017 #6 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I agree with JW Marriott, same for Crystal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenidallas Posted January 5, 2017 #7 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Agree with the JW, Park Hyatt, Conrad comparisons. I think Seabourn my have been in the Ritz-Carlton/St. Regis class in years past but with growth they have become more corporate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitob Posted January 5, 2017 #8 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I dared to ask the question to some folks in Seabourn square. I got a few "motel6" responses but most agreed jw is about right Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suite Travels Posted January 5, 2017 #9 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I dared to ask the question to some folks in Seabourn square. I got a few "motel6" responses but most agreed jw is about right Sent from my iPhone using Forums I can't believe anyone would call Seabourn a Motel 6 now that is laughable. Sailing the Encore later this year after many cruises with Crystal and looking forward to it with anticipation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinkky Posted January 6, 2017 #10 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Im not a stayer at marriott so I would say upper Park Hyatt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitob Posted January 6, 2017 #11 Share Posted January 6, 2017 I can't believe anyone would call Seabourn a Motel 6 now that is laughable. Sailing the Encore later this year after many cruises with Crystal and looking forward to it with anticipation There were a lot of VERY unhappy cruisers on my cruise - first timers and veterans. I'm not going to give you a litany of their issues but suffice it to say the phrase "never again" was oft repeated We have booked Antarctica for 2018. We enjoyed the cruise but Seabourn would not be our first choice Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britcruiser81 Posted January 7, 2017 #12 Share Posted January 7, 2017 I think the term 'familiarity breeds contempt' springs to mind! Seabourn is better than any land based hotel in my opinion. I'd say it is close to Claridge's in London, but even that doesn't compete with the atmosphere of Seabourn Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRollock Posted January 7, 2017 #13 Share Posted January 7, 2017 (edited) Mixed messages for sure - bitter complaint one minute, then gushing praise the next. Maybe it's an accurate reflection of the highs and lows of the cruise, but it's hard to gauge what OP really thinks :confused: However, I'd rather read all the angles than wade through a non-stop pean of adoration/infomercial from a cheerleader. Edited January 7, 2017 by RustyRollock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suite Travels Posted January 7, 2017 #14 Share Posted January 7, 2017 There seems to be a poster who only complains on certain threads, yet raved about many other aspects of her first cruise on SB - save her suite stewardess - on another - but here complains again, yet she repeatedly tells of having another cruise booked, how ironic. Yes, that is very odd. Looking at a poll posted on the Crystal board Seabourn and Crystal are running about the same as far as a luxury experience far ahead of SS and Regent, Seadream. Thanks to the encouragement of Seabourn peeps who have experienced both lines we feel very comfortable booking our Seabourn cruise. I am certain that we will be happy finding a second home on the high seas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suite Travels Posted January 7, 2017 #15 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Mixed messages for sure - bitter complaint one minute, then gushing praise the next. Maybe it's an accurate reflection of the highs and lows of the cruise, but it's hard to gauge what OP really thinks :confused: However, I'd rather read all the angles than wade through a non-stop pean of adoration/infomercial from a cheerleader. Rusty, your last sentence says it all and very true and you have them on all cruise lines. That being said, I really have not seen too many over the top cheerleaders here like I have seen on other lines. Thank You Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtlemichael Posted January 7, 2017 #16 Share Posted January 7, 2017 (edited) It's a difficult question because we are not comparing apples with apples. My favorite hotels around this level are the Conrads in Hong Kong and Seoul. Hotels have inherent advantages. Food is "easier" on land without the difficulties at sea - freshness, availability, choice. Accommodation is also easier on land where space is not so costly. We keep going back to those two hotels because of the food and the accommodation but also the service from the generally excellent staff. As good as these hotels are, I would put Seabourn ahead on service but not on food or accommodation. However, Seabourn also has something which most hotels can never have - the relationships you form with other guests. In broad terms I'd say Seabourn was similar in standard to a Conrad. Edited January 7, 2017 by turtlemichael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOPA28 Posted January 7, 2017 #17 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Disembarked the Sojourn this morning, experienced more disappointments than ever before on Seabourn, and we were certainly not alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csto Posted January 7, 2017 #18 Share Posted January 7, 2017 The OP's question is certainly thought provoking after disembarkation in Singapore this morning from Sojourn. In the past I would always rate Seabourn as a floating Ritz. After this cruise, sadly, it is not the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Catlover54 Posted January 7, 2017 #19 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Disembarked the Sojourn this morning, experienced more disappointments than ever before on Seabourn, and we were certainly not alone. If you have time, would you kindly write a formal review for CC? I am so sorry you had disappointments, and hopefully you will also fill out the SB online feedback forms so the line can try and improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Catlover54 Posted January 7, 2017 #20 Share Posted January 7, 2017 I can't believe anyone would call Seabourn a Motel 6 now that is laughable. Sailing the Encore later this year after many cruises with Crystal and looking forward to it with anticipation I spent many days at various Motel 6 inns when I was younger and on the road a lot, and would have been delighted to find a single one that would come one tenth as close to SB quality, though at least they usually had in-room coffee :) I only have been on three SB cruises, Odyssey and Quest. Odyssey last year in the Med was like a Ritz 5/5 on my review. Quest was like a mobile European Hilton, or a Hyatt Regency, 4/5 overall on the CC review. DH and I are going back to the Quest in three months, final payment this week. Hopefully it will be more Ritz-like this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tv24 Posted January 7, 2017 #21 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Rusty, your last sentence says it all and very true and you have them on all cruise lines. That being said, I really have not seen too many over the top cheerleaders here like I have seen on other lines. Thank You Amen to that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wripro Posted January 7, 2017 #22 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Any cruise line can have an off cruise and I think it's unfair to judge a line by one experience. I have had poor stays at Four Seasons hotels, the Connaught in London, even a Singita property in South Africa. That does not mean I will condemn them and shun them in the future. I look at the overall experiences and judge by those. And, in fact, you simply cannot compare cruise lines to hotels. What's next? Is Seabourn more like AaRolls Royce, a Mercedes, a Lexus or a Honda? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitob Posted January 7, 2017 #23 Share Posted January 7, 2017 I think my posts were misinterpreted by some. I said for me there were glitches but none of them would prevent ME from sailing Seabourn again. Indeed we have booked Antarctica But be aware that our cruise was filled with discontent and for many on our cruise it's their last Seabourn cruise I posted the good bad and the ugly Mostly good but some bad stuff too. It was not at all the Seabourn I had heard friends raving about. Apparently someone had problems on the sojourn too Attacking the messenger is childish if you don't like the message Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruising kirby Posted January 7, 2017 #24 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Any cruise line can have an off cruise and I think it's unfair to judge a line by one experience. I have had poor stays at Four Seasons hotels, the Connaught in London, even a Singita property in South Africa. That does not mean I will condemn them and shun them in the future. I look at the overall experiences and judge by those. And, in fact, you simply cannot compare cruise lines to hotels. What's next? Is Seabourn more like AaRolls Royce, a Mercedes, a Lexus or a Honda? I completely agree! A few years ago I posted about a dreadful experience I had on Seabourn. I was on a 20 day back to back cruise in the Med. The first 10 days were fabulous, typical Seabourn. The second 10 days were completely different. We had a large group on board that completely changed the experience for everyone. I won't go back over those nasty details but suffice to say it was enough for me to never contemplate Seabourn again. But we did, and once again we we treated to the Seabourn we love. So I think I have seen the worst that can happen on a Seabourn ship but it didn't stop me from trying them again and my faith has been restored. Overall Seabourn continues to be the best cruise experience I have ever had (and I have tried almost every cruise line). If I consistently have bad experiences in the future I might change my mind, but for now it is the cruiseline for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suite Travels Posted January 7, 2017 #25 Share Posted January 7, 2017 (edited) I agree some groups can destroy your experience and it has happened to us on Crystal and I am sure it happens on other lines as well. We learned our lesson. I now ask our TA if the cruise we want has a large groups onboard. This will make us shy away as well as holiday cruises on any line just too many kids for our liking. It's not the kids that are the problem it is the gross lack of supervision by the parents and lack of control they have over them. We do salute the good parents that understand and the polite kids that have been brought up well and behave well in a adult environment. Edited January 7, 2017 by Suite Travels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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