pebbles1102 Posted March 14, 2017 #1 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I have an oddball question, I have a child that will only eat meat from animals that have been treated humanely. The way animals are farmed in the states he thinks is cruel and only wants meat from free range humanly processed animals. Does anyone know if all the meat on European cruises would be from sources like in the states, or would they be from places in Europe where I believe the farming practices are a little more humane? Thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankees111 Posted March 14, 2017 #2 Share Posted March 14, 2017 [emoji15] Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerryincork Posted March 14, 2017 #3 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Not sure. If in Europe they would probably get their meat from the nearest market. Oposed from flying in from the USA (expensive shipping it in) I don't think we truly can know where they get food from. Can you write them and ask? You can say for dietary reasons. Sent from my SM-N910F using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerryincork Posted March 14, 2017 #4 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Just check EU website and US can import beef to the EU. They have to pass quality inspection and sign up to some quality programme. Sent from my SM-N910F using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarimaJ Posted March 14, 2017 #5 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I think you can request kosher or halal meat way in advance. Those slaughtering practices have humane rules in place. Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ColeThornton Posted March 14, 2017 #6 Share Posted March 14, 2017 ............ Those slaughtering practices have humane rules in place. Two words you normally don't see in the same sentence. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquishTheWhale Posted March 14, 2017 #7 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I think you can request kosher or halal meat way in advance. Those slaughtering practices have humane rules in place. Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Halal "humane"!! I think not. As said above, the meat will likely be taken on locally. However I doubt you will be able to find out what kind of farm it came from. Often meat in Europe is not free range, same as the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BostonGal35 Posted March 14, 2017 #8 Share Posted March 14, 2017 how old is your child? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insanemagnet Posted March 14, 2017 #9 Share Posted March 14, 2017 My expectation would be the meat would come from the United States, fresh fruit and veg from local European suppliers. I know when I was on the Epic in the med a couple of years back they ran out of Lobster and it was off the menu for a few days until a shipment arrived from the US.From speaking the the F&B manager, they told me they had investigated local suppliers to fill the gap, but were not happy with the quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12kadet Posted March 14, 2017 #10 Share Posted March 14, 2017 My expectation would be the meat would come from the United States, fresh fruit and veg from local European suppliers. I know when I was on the Epic in the med a couple of years back they ran out of Lobster and it was off the menu for a few days until a shipment arrived from the US.From speaking the the F&B manager, they told me they had investigated local suppliers to fill the gap, but were not happy with the quality. Was the quality from local suppliers too good [emoji6] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanger727 Posted March 14, 2017 #11 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I think if you want to investigate this it would be best to do pre-cruise; I think that if you wait till on board you'll run into people a. Not knowing and b. Unable to understand the question due to language barriers... if I would venture a guess, I wouldn't expect any of the meat on the ship to be free-range, regardless of where it is sourced from. If this is something your child is passionate about, there are plenty of vegetarian options on the ship. Just my 2 cents... I was a vegetarian for a long time due to believing farming was in humane, but I went full vegetarian because I couldn't find any way to consider a slaughterhouse humane either... not quite sure how you reconcile killing animals for food as long as their life didn't suck too bad before you killed them... Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveH2508 Posted March 14, 2017 #12 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I seem to recall Chengkp75 (a chief engineer of many years standing) saying somewhere on CC that all meat (and seafood) for US lines came in from the US frozen in containers (for mainstream lines anyway). Some of the high-end lines source meat locally, in fact one or two do excursions with the chef to the local market. On Azamara recently we had locally sourced kangaroo (beautifully cooked) and crocodile (ruined by the recipe and the cooking). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerryincork Posted March 14, 2017 #13 Share Posted March 14, 2017 It's probably too expensive to buy from EU. Sent from my SM-N910F using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of a son of a ... Posted March 14, 2017 #14 Share Posted March 14, 2017 The burgers on the Epic on a western Med cruise tasted a bit more porky than American ground beef. I chalked that up to a different purveyor and continent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old nutter Posted March 14, 2017 #15 Share Posted March 14, 2017 From what I heard once when we were departing Civitavecchia and some containers got held up in Livorno on the way from the US, I understand that all meat and seafood is shipped in refrigerated containers from the US. The beef in Europe is not as tender as from the US because of the much lower hormone use and big US-style steaks sourced in Europe would not be as easy to eat unless cooked differently. The ability to use standard cooking methods for meat and seafood really does need consistent processes and so a controlled sourcing is probably essential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeyetlse Posted March 14, 2017 #16 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I think you may have some misconceptions about the quality of food in Europe. There's plenty of inhumanely produced meat here, too. And at the price point that NCL and other mass-market cruise lines operate at, that's what you'll be eating, no matter where they source the meat. The OP's son will need to go vegetarian on board, at least until they grow out of this idealistic phase and become resigned and complacent like most of us… :rolleyes: I agree with the others above: We have always been told that NCL's meat and fish comes frozen from the US, even for European cruises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kathybelcher2433 Posted March 14, 2017 #17 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I think you may have some misconceptions about the quality of food in Europe. There's plenty of inhumanely produced meat here, too. And at the price point that NCL and other mass-market cruise lines operate at, that's what you'll be eating, no matter where they source the meat. The OP's son will need to go vegetarian on board, at least until they grow out of this idealistic phase and become resigned and complacent like most of us… :rolleyes: I agree with the others above: We have always been told that NCL's meat and fish comes frozen from the US, even for European cruises. "Resigned and Complacent". Sounds like a perfect tag line. I might start using it. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsato Posted March 14, 2017 #18 Share Posted March 14, 2017 To echo the previous poster, I was on the Jade during the European winter sailing out of Barcelona - the Hotel director told us all the food was packed in containers in Florida and shipped in the big containers over seas...There may be some exceptions but I bet not many... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnIreland Posted March 14, 2017 #19 Share Posted March 14, 2017 During the behind the scenes tour you can see all the beef is usda stamped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2inTul Posted March 14, 2017 #20 Share Posted March 14, 2017 The only food I've ever noticed that was locally sourced in Europe were dairy products like milk, cream and butter. All other food is shipped from Miami as another poster noted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb at sea Posted March 14, 2017 #21 Share Posted March 14, 2017 You will tell your child that the food HAS been treated humanely, if you want them to eat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarimaJ Posted March 15, 2017 #22 Share Posted March 15, 2017 "Resigned and Complacent". Sounds like a perfect tag line. I might start using it. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Agree, great line. Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvtheships Posted March 15, 2017 #23 Share Posted March 15, 2017 It's probably too expensive to buy from EU. Sent from my SM-N910F using Forums mobile app Meat in general is very expensive in the eu One main reason is they just don't have the land to graze the animals on Now Argentina and the USA among others have plenty of farmland thus are big meat eater countries Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac4YYZ Posted March 15, 2017 #24 Share Posted March 15, 2017 I think you can request kosher or halal meat way in advance. Those slaughtering practices have humane rules in place. Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Humane? Not so much. Sent from my SM-T320 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac4YYZ Posted March 15, 2017 #25 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Halal "humane"!! I think not. As said above, the meat will likely be taken on locally. However I doubt you will be able to find out what kind of farm it came from. Often meat in Europe is not free range, same as the US. And kosher is more humane? Sent from my SM-T320 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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