The virtues of formal nights & why we like them

[tailspintom]

Check please

 

 

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Yep, I am out too. Too many buttons being pushed. Mine and by me too.

[MGAfhc]

What are the problems caused by people not wanting to dress formally? Riots? Looting?

 

Apparently it intrudes on someone else's fantasy, be it historical, lady and the secret agent or aristocrat for a day.

[floridalover5623]

Additionally, you are making an egregious error asserting that I would dictate anyone's discussion. Nowhere in my post do I even come close to saying that.

 

Um, does this strike a familiar note?

 

"I know I would ask to be reassigned to a different group if I found myself at a table that insisted on a discussion about the virtues of the current USA commander in chief."

 

I know this irritates some people but I love hearing both sides of the political table. There's no need to get argumentative but it's still better than hearing about what people did that day.

[Rigby the Dog]

One supposes that, using the theory of "I'm on vacation, I paid for my cabin..." would give you the right to smoke wherever you choose, not be bothered by queues for dining or tenders, or, for that matter, any other thing that would get in the way of your enjoyment. It is also so nice of you to be so accepting of those who exercised their right to vote for whom they chose. I continue to be amused by self centered people. It used to be annoying, but as one ages, they get to see the humor in these folks because they certainly do not look inward themselves.

 

So my non-formal attire in the MDR doesn't change the taste of your food? It's a health risk?

 

Sorry, I've never been amused by those who voted for Trump nor those who would like us to march in straight lines, in uniform, to the main dining room. I value individualism and I have no use for those who try to force their beliefs and values on society.

[umuva]

You got up and moved from a table because you didn't like what someone was wearing and you believe that he is the problem with society? Talk about the feeling of entitlement.

 

 

 

Where did I say anywhere I did that? You are thinking about someone else. Get your facts right.

 

 

 

 

 

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[Rigby the Dog]

Where did I say anywhere I did that? You are thinking about someone else. Get your facts right.

 

 

 

 

 

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You defended the practice - it might as well have been you.

[umuva]

You defended the practice - it might as well have been you.

 

 

 

What practice did I defend? I made NO comment on getting up from table and leaving. My comment was on general entitlements that some people seem to think they have. Stop with the FAKE FACTS and False conclusions.

 

 

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[PrincessLuver]

I understand your sarcasm, but isn't it a bit of "I'm entitled" by the casual dresser? And isn't that really one of our societal problems: I'm entitled because ---(fill in blank).

 

 

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I'm entitled because because I (umuva) am highly judgmental, uptight and know what is best for others whether they like it or not.

 

Please post you picture so we never sit at your table.....:rolleyes::eek:

[HaveDogWillTravel]

Um, does this strike a familiar note?

 

"I know I would ask to be reassigned to a different group if I found myself at a table that insisted on a discussion about the virtues of the current USA commander in chief."

 

 

Yes it does and it in no way dictates the conversation. You should look up the meaning of the word dictate.

[umuva]

I'm entitled because because I (umuva) am highly judgmental, uptight and know what is best for others whether they like it or not.

 

 

 

Please post you picture so we never sit at your table.....:rolleyes::eek:

 

 

 

Where have I said I know best? Where was I judgmental? My comment is that we have become an entitled society. I don't think that based on what we see of popular culture I am wrong. Many people feel that customs, rules, even suggestions are not for them.

As for sitting at the same table, you'll never know what you missed.

 

 

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[Rigby the Dog]

What practice did I defend? I made NO comment on getting up from table and leaving. My comment was on general entitlements that some people seem to think they have. Stop with the FAKE FACTS and False conclusions.

 

 

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But that's what the original post was about - you don't even know what you are responding to anymore. At least defend the fact that you are intolerant. If the guy wants to dress casual then so be it. No need to get up and leave, no need to flag down the the hostess to rat him out. It shouldn't even concern you.

 

If you want to dress in formal wear then do it. But no need to dictate what others should wear, no need to be judgmental.

[umuva]

But that's what the original post was about - you don't even know what you are responding to anymore. At least defend the fact that you are intolerant. If the guy wants to dress casual then so be it. No need to get up and leave, no need to flag down the the hostess to rat him out. It shouldn't even concern you.

 

 

 

If you want to dress in formal wear then do it. But no need to dictate what others should wear, no need to be judgmental.

 

 

 

Once again, you throw --- on the wall and hope something sticks. My comment was that there is a growing sense of entitlement. Nowhere did I espouse intolerance. That is coming from you. Nowhere did I say I would get up and leave or any of the crap you are saying. Nowhere did I suggest it. You're great at inferring but your inferences should be aimed at those who espouse what angers you.

Where did I dictate what others wear? Show me the quote!

 

 

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[emairs]

I haven't read this total thread, but the last few pages have not been all that friendly and have gone off topic somewhat.

To respond to the OP, we love formal nights. We were sad when they ended on Celebrity.

We enjoy getting dressed up on cruises, and do so every night. To each his own. We don't care what others do, and do not judge them. To us, it makes for a more enjoyable cruise experience.

 

 

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[Rigby the Dog]

Once again, you throw --- on the wall and hope something sticks. My comment was that there is a growing sense of entitlement. Nowhere did I espouse intolerance. That is coming from you. Nowhere did I say I would get up and leave or any of the crap you are saying. Nowhere did I suggest it. You're great at inferring but your inferences should be aimed at those who espouse what angers you.

Where did I dictate what others wear? Show me the quote!

 

 

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Again, you don't even know what you're commenting on. You defended the practice of the person who got up and left the table because a man was sitting there in casual dress. You felt that this person felt that he was entitled. Call it what you want but you are intolerant. By defending this you are also dictating what this person should wear.

 

To you it doesn't matter that there was no problem with the way the person was dressed. Only you - and the person who got up and asked for another table - felt that this person wasn't dressed the way you thought he should be dressed. And you call him entitled?

 

You may not like the word but you - by your actions - are intolerant and judgmental.

 

Hope to see you at my table - I'll be the guy with jeans and a polo shirt on - call me "entitled"

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[umuva]

Again, you don't even know what your commenting on. You defended the practice of the person who got up and left the table because a man was sitting there in casual dress. You felt that this person felt that he was entitled. Call it what you want but you are intolerant. By defending this you are also dictating what this person should wear.

 

 

 

To you it doesn't matter that there was no problem with the way the person was dressed. Only you - and the person who got up and asked for another table - felt that this person wasn't dressed the way you thought he should be dressed. And you call him entitled?

 

 

 

You may not like the word but you - by your actions - are intolerant and judgmental.

 

 

 

Hope to see you at my table - I'll be the guy with jeans and a polo shirt on - call me "entitled"

 

 

 

No, I didn't defend the practice of getting up. My original comment to you was a actually a compliment on your sarcasm. But you seem to have read everything bassakwards. And you still miss my point about entitlement. I guess because in your jeans in MDR on formal night, you are entitled. Would someone also be entitled to smoke in the casino on no smoking night? Would someone be allowed to bring young children to the adulthood only pool? Would I be intolerant and judgmental if I liked those rules?

 

 

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[Rigby the Dog]

No, I didn't defend the practice of getting up. My original comment to you was a actually a compliment on your sarcasm. But you seem to have read everything bassakwards. And you still miss my point about entitlement. I guess because in your jeans in MDR on formal night, you are entitled. Would someone also be entitled to smoke in the casino on no smoking night? Would someone be allowed to bring young children to the adulthood only pool? Would I be intolerant and judgmental if I liked those rules?

 

 

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I am allowed to wear jeans and a polo shirt, you are entitled to wear what you would like to wear. The following is from the Princess website:

 

There are two recommendations for evenings and dinners:

• Smart casual:
  Dress the same way you would do for a visit to a restaurant at home. Skirts, dresses or trousers with t-shirt or blouse for ladies, trousers and shirt or poloshirt for gentlemen. Shorts and swimwear are not allowed in the restaurant.
  

• Formal:
  Evening gown, cocktail dress or pantsuits for ladies, suit, combination or dinner jackets for gentlemen. Princess Cruises offers formal wear rental on all cruises.
  

[Cairn Mom]

So my non-formal attire in the MDR doesn't change the taste of your food? It's a health risk?

 

 

 

Sorry, I've never been amused by those who voted for Trump nor those who would like us to march in straight lines, in uniform, to the main dining room. I value individualism and I have no use for those who try to force their beliefs and values on society.

 

 

 

Not a fan of " The Donald " but people are entitled to their opinions and politics has no place in a discussion of formal nights and why we like them. Keithm, the OP, asked that someone opposed to formal nights start a thread about that. Instead of battling on this thread, why not start a thread for like-minded folks.

 

 

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[goldenrod]

During my work years I had to dress in a suit and tie everyday. Now that we are retired we don't dress up we wear nice clothes but feel no need to dress up like I'm going to a funeral. As far as I'm concerned the only reason Princess still has formal nights is to sell photos!

 

 

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[Brian Dillon]

How do you dress for a wedding if the invite is formal, how do you dress for graduation and how do you dress for your prom I find some Americans have a damm all attitude and give the impression of wall mart dressers when one is asked to dress formally it is polite to do so or not attend the function on Cunard you would be asked to leave before you could enter the mdr on a formal evening.

 

 

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[umuva]

What is your problem? On non formal nights or as Princess says smart casual, there is no problem with jeans or a polo shirt. I wear that myself.

We are talking formal nights and as others have said, if you don't want to talk about why they are liked as the OP started, start your own thread instead of hijacking this one.

 

 

 

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[deliver42]

I couldn't care less about what other people at my table were wearing, as long as they are clean. It has no affect on my food, and I enjoy casual conversation. However, I will not engage conversation when it comes to politics. It invariably leads to arguing unless both parties feel the same way. My politics are nobodies business. I went on a cruise to enjoy myself, not get irritated.

[mellon1]

I just was reading part of this post. I have had a rough day. Thank you....I am laughing my butt off.

 

Remember, if we were all the same, had the same opinions, looked and dressed the same....life would be oh so boring.

[Charles4515]

How do you dress for a wedding if the invite is formal, how do you dress for graduation and how do you dress for your prom I find some Americans have a damm all attitude and give the impression of wall mart dressers when one is asked to dress formally it is polite to do so or not attend the function on Cunard you would be asked to leave before you could enter the mdr on a formal evening.

 

 

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If you like Cunard's policies over the Princess policies.... I suggest you book Cunard.

 

Cultures are different and Princess respects that. I don't know where you are from I happen to like how we Americans dress. You are welcome to dress how you like. That is the American way. When Princess stops having formal nights I wouldn't tell you not continue to dress formally. I would say dress the way that makes you happy. That you should still wear formal clothes if you like them.

 

As far as "Wal Mart ", I expect that Princess welcomes aboard passengers who shop at Wal Mart. They are a buseness with a large number of berths to fill.

[Rigby the Dog]

What is your problem? On non formal nights or as Princess says smart casual, there is no problem with jeans or a polo shirt. I wear that myself.

We are talking formal nights and as others have said, if you don't want to talk about why they are liked as the OP started, start your own thread instead of hijacking this one.

 

 

 

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My problem is that you are wrong and spreading misinformation - fake. Smart casual is fine even on formal nights. Read. Those are "recommendations".

[Rigby the Dog]

I just was reading part of this post. I have had a rough day. Thank you....I am laughing my butt off.

 

Remember, if we were all the same, had the same opinions, looked and dressed the same....life would be oh so boring.

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