cruisegirl1 Posted February 12, 2018 #1326 Share Posted February 12, 2018 I would guess 95%+ come for the free drinks. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app Don't get me wrong - I like the free booze, but often get it at some other bar. M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted February 12, 2018 #1327 Share Posted February 12, 2018 I would guess 95%+ come for the free drinks. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app It took you a bit to accept that. Many of the DL’s have a bar just right outside, used to be used for overflow. They could limit the FREE drinks in the DL, say 2, so the 3rd could be used while Dinning. I bet that will eliminate a lot of the crowding. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted February 12, 2018 #1328 Share Posted February 12, 2018 It would not surprise me to see the perk of dinner in CK for JS guest mysteriously disappear from the web site list of perks someday. Then down the road as the number of Pinnacles keeps increasing eventually they will lose access as well. JMHO With more ships getting the SL it seems a natural progression that SL and CK will be for full suites only and a new C&A lounge for P,D+ and possibly JS and D get the 3 vouchers. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisegirl1 Posted February 12, 2018 #1329 Share Posted February 12, 2018 It would not surprise me to see the perk of dinner in CK for JS guest mysteriously disappear from the web site list of perks someday. Then down the road as the number of Pinnacles keeps increasing eventually they will lose access as well. JMHO I agree. I suspect someday will be soon! M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilkySal Posted February 12, 2018 #1330 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Worth a nickle. Probably right! Wasn't it rumored that our "powers that be" were going to do away with those non-copper pennies anyway?:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molly361 Posted February 12, 2018 #1331 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Don't get me wrong - I like the free booze, but often get it at some other bar. M Same here. Except to on the MJ where the VCL has never been crowded we use our drink coupons in a bar before dinner and then if we have after dinner drinks use one of the lounges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted February 12, 2018 #1332 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Me too, in the evening. I sometimes stay for the comaraderie. I go in the morning for a double latte expresso and Austrian Stritzel. JC My mug holds a cappuccino with two more espresso shots. I like the Apple strudel Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted February 12, 2018 #1333 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Free booze at the other bars too. Just have to limit it to three! Actually I love the Oasis D lounge in the morning for the amazing custard pastries . Use to go for the coffee - but can only drink decaf. Past 4 cruises - no decaf beans in the specialty machine. M I see I'm not the only one noticing the lack of decaf. 😉 Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisegirl1 Posted February 12, 2018 #1334 Share Posted February 12, 2018 With more ships getting the SL it seems a natural progression that SL and CK will be for full suites only and a new C&A lounge for P,D+ and possibly JS and D get the 3 vouchers. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app Not sure - are you suggesting adding JS to a lounge or giving JS vouchers? A non D cruiser in a JS does not have any D lounge access now. No one has C&A lounge access per their accommodation. It is a benefit because of company loyalty. Suite passengers are not in a loyalty lunge - they are assigned a suite lounge because of their accommodations. M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted February 12, 2018 #1335 Share Posted February 12, 2018 It would not surprise me to see the perk of dinner in CK for JS guest mysteriously disappear from the web site list of perks someday. Then down the road as the number of Pinnacles keeps increasing eventually they will lose access as well. JMHO There was some talk this fall that CK would be for dbl PC. Interestingly, lunch isn't that crowded most days Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatka Posted February 12, 2018 #1336 Share Posted February 12, 2018 We are not really loyal to any line as my signature proves, but we did 2 on Royal last year and will cruise 4 times this year (after 2 cruises we will be Diamonds) just to reach this status. It would be much faster if Royal didn't do horrible job switching from # of cruises to # of points matching 1 cruise to 1 credit. If one of main benefits is removed (moved to D+) I don't see why we won't sail with other cruise lines more than with Royal.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted February 12, 2018 #1337 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Not sure - are you suggesting adding JS to a lounge or giving JS vouchers? A non D cruiser in a JS does not have any D lounge access now. No one has C&A lounge access per their accommodation. It is a benefit because of company loyalty. Suite passengers are not in a loyalty lunge - they are assigned a suite lounge because of their accommodations. M Yes, DL is a C&A perk. I agree agree. However, before Diamond, our Suite Gold card allowed access. Others have reported the same. On at least 2 ships I can remember and maybe a 3rd I can not. [emoji33] Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted February 12, 2018 #1338 Share Posted February 12, 2018 There was some talk this fall that CK would be for dbl PC. Interestingly, lunch isn't that crowded most days Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Forums mobile app Is that like the D++ of D+? Sorta P+. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted February 12, 2018 #1339 Share Posted February 12, 2018 It took you a bit to accept that. Many of the DL’s have a bar just right outside, used to be used for overflow. They could limit the FREE drinks in the DL, say 2, so the 3rd could be used while Dinning. I bet that will eliminate a lot of the crowding. Sent from my iPhone using Forums I explained before why we don't drink alcohol at home but we do have some glasses of champagne In the DL and i always give $1 a drink tip here and any bar we might use the vouchers. The DL is empty during the day when we pop in for a coffee but human nature dictates when the free drinks are available during cocktail hours everyone who is allowed comes in for a drink. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted February 12, 2018 #1340 Share Posted February 12, 2018 My mug holds a cappuccino with two more espresso shots. I like the Apple strudel Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Forums mobile app Thats how i make my coffee too. I often have a coffee with a snack and glass of champagne during cocktail hours. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBD1516 Posted February 12, 2018 #1341 Share Posted February 12, 2018 I am on Oasis right now. Our welcome letter says we can get 3 C&A drinks from 4:30 to 8:00 in any bar speciality restaurant and the main dining room. We rarely get any drinks but I thought you might like to know something current. My other comment is this: I am D+ with 4 crystal blocks in balconies (not suites) and I can tell you that I have brought many, many new passengers to Royal, mostly family and friends. Right now we are a group of 12 family with 4 of them new to cruising and 2 more who are new to Royal. We have a Royal family suite and 3 sea view balconies. It is good business to have a good product and reward repeat customers with an excellent loyalty program. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulette3028 Posted February 12, 2018 #1342 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Just off Navigator sailing 2/2/18 (9 day cruise). There were over 600 Diamond and above on board. The Cosmopolitan Lounge (formerly called the Viking Crown Lounge) was used as the overflow. We had table mates who remarked that the sailing before, they had a similar amount and did not use the outer lounge as overflow for the first day or two and it was disastrous, so Royal clearly adjusted. They had the Concierge or another staff member checking seapass cards almost immediately when you came out of the elevator. It was an uncomfortable exchange between cruisers and staff when the cruiser was not eligible to be enjoying that space. DL drink vouchers were honored in the MDR, which probably did help a little....not sure if that will continue on sailings that do not have as many Diamonds and above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted February 12, 2018 #1343 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Not sure - are you suggesting adding JS to a lounge or giving JS vouchers? A non D cruiser in a JS does not have any D lounge access now. No one has C&A lounge access per their accommodation. It is a benefit because of company loyalty. Suite passengers are not in a loyalty lunge - they are assigned a suite lounge because of their accommodations. M D only would get the vouchers. JS don't currently get CL access but on Oasis they get CK access thats why i said possibly for them for C&A lounge but probably not. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBD1516 Posted February 12, 2018 #1344 Share Posted February 12, 2018 I forgot to say that the DL is available to us those hours as well. I did not mean to imply we had lost any lounge privileges. But I do like being able to order a glass of wine with dinner in the MDR if I want to. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted February 12, 2018 #1345 Share Posted February 12, 2018 I am on Oasis right now. Our welcome letter says we can get 3 C&A drinks from 4:30 to 8:00 in any bar speciality restaurant and the main dining room. We rarely get any drinks but I thought you might like to know something current. My other comment is this: I am D+ with 4 crystal blocks in balconies (not suites) and I can tell you that I have brought many, many new passengers to Royal, mostly family and friends. Right now we are a group of 12 family with 4 of them new to cruising and 2 more who are new to Royal. We have a Royal family suite and 3 sea view balconies. It is good business to have a good product and reward repeat customers with an excellent loyalty program. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Great post. Sent from my Kestrel using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted February 12, 2018 #1346 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Just off Navigator sailing 2/2/18 (9 day cruise). There were over 600 Diamond and above on board. The Cosmopolitan Lounge (formerly called the Viking Crown Lounge) was used as the overflow. We had table mates who remarked that the sailing before, they had a similar amount and did not use the outer lounge as overflow for the first day or two and it was disastrous, so Royal clearly adjusted. They had the Concierge or another staff member checking seapass cards almost immediately when you came out of the elevator. It was an uncomfortable exchange between cruisers and staff when the cruiser was not eligible to be enjoying that space. DL drink vouchers were honored in the MDR, which probably did help a little....not sure if that will continue on sailings that do not have as many Diamonds and above. I wonder if there is a magic number when the change the setup. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STANMELB Posted February 12, 2018 #1347 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Ecko is leaving royal or just oasis? Pablo or Pedro was the other bartender. Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk Hi Frank, He told us he was leaving Royal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulette3028 Posted February 12, 2018 #1348 Share Posted February 12, 2018 I wonder if there is a magic number when the change the setup. Sent from my iPhone using Forums I am sure there is some 'not written in stone' number and then it is how many people complain to the DL Concierge about the situation. They know the demographics before the sailing even departs, so there is no mystery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beachammo Posted February 12, 2018 #1349 Share Posted February 12, 2018 I wonder if there is a magic number when the change the setup. Sent from my iPhone using Forums I'll be on Navigator in a few weeks.... I'll report back Sent from my VS995 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavarreCruiser Posted February 13, 2018 #1350 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Now you're dreaming. I agree with you. However, it would not surprise me if (or when) the Diamonds get booted out that an extra drink or 2 would be added to the card. By the way, I appreciate all the time and research you put in on these boards, Bob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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