Tommy3putts Posted March 29, 2018 #151 Share Posted March 29, 2018 ^^^^^^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topnole Posted March 29, 2018 #152 Share Posted March 29, 2018 So, while I agree, I prefer a smoke free ship. I don’t actually care that they stay in their place. Yes, it is civilized to smoke in a designated smoking area, but 50 years ago, people smoked literally everywhere, and somehow our species is still in existence 50 years later. It is shocking, with all of the tv shows showing all of us the dangers that somehow we all survived. Smoking is dumb and those who do it are on average going to die sooner and poorer. That said, good lord people... JC So as long as our species survives, no big deal? Don’t set the bar too high on what bothers you. You must be one laid back dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare A&L_Ont Posted March 29, 2018 #153 Share Posted March 29, 2018 You must be one laid back dude. The world needs a few more people like this, it could/might be a happier place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy3putts Posted March 29, 2018 #154 Share Posted March 29, 2018 The world needs a few more people like this, it could/might be a happier place. Dittos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royal2464 Posted March 29, 2018 #155 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Let's not lose sight of the original subject in this thread. That being the callous disregard for others by a woman who chose to smoke in a public venue where smoking is prohibited and then showed a total lack of societal norms by grinding the butt out on the floor. Rather than being concerned with whether someone is laid back, lets focus on returning to a society where others are considered, not just oneself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katmu Posted March 29, 2018 #156 Share Posted March 29, 2018 All of the talk about how smoke filled the casinos are has me convinced that my friend and I will need to avoid it during our cruise in December as we both have asthma. My question is, how smoky are the adjoining areas? We will be on Oasis, so I'm wondering if the smoke travels to the hallways near Izumi or the Ice Rink? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy3putts Posted March 29, 2018 #157 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Let's not lose sight of the original subject in this thread. That being the callous disregard for others by a woman who chose to smoke in a public venue where smoking is prohibited and then showed a total lack of societal norms by grinding the butt out on the floor. Rather than being concerned with whether someone is laid back, lets focus on returning to a society where others are considered, not just oneself. Well said. Let’s also focus on the prospect that “consideration of others” is a two way street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvraj Posted March 29, 2018 #158 Share Posted March 29, 2018 All of the talk about how smoke filled the casinos are has me convinced that my friend and I will need to avoid it during our cruise in December as we both have asthma. My question is, how smoky are the adjoining areas? We will be on Oasis, so I'm wondering if the smoke travels to the hallways near Izumi or the Ice Rink? I have not found smoke to be a problem outside of casino area on deck 4. The only thing to consider is whether you want to walk through the casino to get from one end of the ship to the other given that ice rink and theatre entrance are on the same deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted March 29, 2018 #159 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Let's not lose sight of the original subject in this thread. That being the callous disregard for others by a woman who chose to smoke in a public venue where smoking is prohibited and then showed a total lack of societal norms by grinding the butt out on the floor. Rather than being concerned with whether someone is laid back, lets focus on returning to a society where others are considered, not just oneself. Hear hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUISEFAN0001 Posted March 29, 2018 #160 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Let's not lose sight of the original subject in this thread. That being the callous disregard for others by a woman who chose to smoke in a public venue where smoking is prohibited and then showed a total lack of societal norms by grinding the butt out on the floor. Rather than being concerned with whether someone is laid back, lets focus on returning to a society where others are considered, not just oneself. Dilly Dilly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audome78 Posted March 29, 2018 #161 Share Posted March 29, 2018 All of the talk about how smoke filled the casinos are has me convinced that my friend and I will need to avoid it during our cruise in December as we both have asthma. My question is, how smoky are the adjoining areas? We will be on Oasis, so I'm wondering if the smoke travels to the hallways near Izumi or the Ice Rink? we were onboard for two weeks this month.Our experience was that, yes, you can smell the casino smoke in the hallway outside Izumi. You can also smell it in any aft elevator lobby and in the elevators. We were in a Junior Suite on deck 12, aft, starboard, and we could smell the stale cigarette smoke every time we used the elevators. Others may have a different experience, I am only relating what our experience was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leisuretraveler223 Posted March 29, 2018 #162 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Skirting the rules on a cruise could get a lot of people killed. I have been through a house fire and the thought of being in a fire on the ocean is pretty scary. We all know the risks on a cruise but someone who cares nothing of the welfare of others is pretty disconcerting. Sorry, I'm calling BS on this. Don't get me wrong, fire is a huge concern. But I'm fairly certain the promenade isn't inherently more flammable than the casino.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRF Posted March 29, 2018 #163 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Sorry, I'm calling BS on this. Don't get me wrong, fire is a huge concern. But I'm fairly certain the promenade isn't inherently more flammable than the casino.... So you are OK with people throwing lit cigarettes on the carpet in the casino????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted March 29, 2018 #164 Share Posted March 29, 2018 So you are OK with people throwing lit cigarettes on the carpet in the casino????? Where did he even hint at implying that? He said the Promenade was not more prone to fire than the casino. And RCI does allow smoking in there. So where does someone smoking on the Promenade create this huge fire risk? If smoking on the Promenade is such a fire risk then it is just as much of a risk, if not more, in the casino. The real issue here is not fire but the smoking itself discarding the filthy aftermath on the floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topnole Posted March 29, 2018 #165 Share Posted March 29, 2018 The world needs a few more people like this, it could/might be a happier place. True. But species survival is a bar too low for me. Exxon mobile. No biggie. None of the species went extinct. BP oil spill. Many animal and humans died. But no biggie, all species survived it. 3 mile island. No worries. No species went extinct. Concordia sinks. No biggie. The human race continues. Of course I jest but you get what I’m saying. But yes some could stand to be more laid back, including me I’m sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leisuretraveler223 Posted March 29, 2018 #166 Share Posted March 29, 2018 So you are OK with people throwing lit cigarettes on the carpet in the casino????? Yeah, that's exactly what I said. You're ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRF Posted March 30, 2018 #167 Share Posted March 30, 2018 True. But species survival is a bar too low for me. Exxon mobile. No biggie. None of the species went extinct. BP oil spill. Many animal and humans died. But no biggie, all species survived it. 3 mile island. No worries. No species went extinct. Concordia sinks. No biggie. The human race continues. Of course I jest but you get what I’m saying. But yes some could stand to be more laid back, including me I’m sure. Yes, and 34,000 people died in highway accidents in the US last year. And how many people died with the Exxon Valdez? BP? Three Mile Island? Also, over 200,000 die in the US from preventable medical errors each year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted March 30, 2018 #168 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Yes, and 34,000 people died in highway accidents in the US last year. And how many people died with the Exxon Valdez? BP? Three Mile Island? Also, over 200,000 die in the US from preventable medical errors each year. Chicago 2018 averages Someone is shot every 4 hours Someone shot and killed every 18 hours Guns are banned in Chicago. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamrosie Posted April 19, 2018 #169 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Chicago 2018 averages Someone is shot every 4 hours Someone shot and killed every 18 hours Guns are banned in Chicago. Sent from my iPhone using Forums The guns come from Indiana. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted April 19, 2018 #170 Share Posted April 19, 2018 The guns come from Indiana. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Yes but they are banned in Chicago. You miss the point. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topnole Posted April 19, 2018 #171 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Yes, and 34,000 people died in highway accidents in the US last year. And how many people died with the Exxon Valdez? BP? Three Mile Island? Also, over 200,000 die in the US from preventable medical errors each year. What is your point? You make no sense. An uncountable number of animals died in the Exxon and BP accidents. But no species went extinct so according to the prior post’s logic we aren’t supposed to worry? That is absolutely ridiculous. So what now, 200k die in auto accidents so we shouldnt worry about a fire hazard on a ship? You make zero sense and if it was possible to be negative in this metric you would have a high negative score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leisuretraveler223 Posted April 19, 2018 #172 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Chicago 2018 averages Someone is shot every 4 hours Someone shot and killed every 18 hours Guns are banned in Chicago. I could point out that regulatory restriction without border control is pointless. So the "chicago gun ban" doesn't mean much until they put up city immigration gates. It's a hell of a lot easier to bring a gun from Indiana or even Oak Brook into Chicago than it is to bring them across an international border. But instead of doing that, I'll just point out that you're arguing gun politics on a cruising message board. So basically, you need to wear a helmet for developmental reasons and forewarn those with whom you interact that you are slightly more mentally challenged and a handful of pond scum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjrice1 Posted April 19, 2018 #173 Share Posted April 19, 2018 So off topic.. Can we consider this thread close?? Anyone agrees?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted April 19, 2018 #174 Share Posted April 19, 2018 So off topic.. Can we consider this thread close?? Anyone agrees?? It pretty much was until someone decided to bring it back to life after 19 days of no activity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted April 19, 2018 #175 Share Posted April 19, 2018 I could point out that regulatory restriction without border control is pointless. So the "chicago gun ban" doesn't mean much until they put up city immigration gates. It's a hell of a lot easier to bring a gun from Indiana or even Oak Brook into Chicago than it is to bring them across an international border. But instead of doing that, I'll just point out that you're arguing gun politics on a cruising message board. So basically, you need to wear a helmet for developmental reasons and forewarn those with whom you interact that you are slightly more mentally challenged and a handful of pond scum. My response was to an off topic posts regarding many other reasons people die than by smoking. You would need to read the posts in the order and responses written to understand. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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