mjkacmom Posted April 14, 2018 #51 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Just saw a news clip, they are still searching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expat Cruise Posted April 14, 2018 #52 Share Posted April 14, 2018 This is the second cruise ship to have a passenger go overboard in the last 24 hours. Just highlights that everyone really needs to be careful and think when on cruise ships. Most of the time if someone goes go in the water they are not coming out alive. I know I have lost items on small personal boats in the ocean, hats, cushions, etc.even in a small boat with double the speed and less than a meter off the water, by the time you turn around very hard to find the items if you even can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken at the beach Posted April 14, 2018 #53 Share Posted April 14, 2018 This is the second cruise ship to have a passenger go overboard in the last 24 hours. Just highlights that everyone really needs to be careful and think when on cruise ships. Most of the time if someone goes go in the water they are not coming out alive. I know I have lost items on small personal boats in the ocean, hats, cushions, etc.even in a small boat with double the speed and less than a meter off the water, by the time you turn around very hard to find the items if you even can. You don’t just fall off a cruise ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted April 14, 2018 #54 Share Posted April 14, 2018 This is the second cruise ship to have a passenger go overboard in the last 24 hours. Just highlights that everyone really needs to be careful and think when on cruise ships. Most of the time if someone goes go in the water they are not coming out alive. I know I have lost items on small personal boats in the ocean, hats, cushions, etc.even in a small boat with double the speed and less than a meter off the water, by the time you turn around very hard to find the items if you even can. Be careful of what? If someone goes into the water they were either trying or being really stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmoothFlying Posted April 14, 2018 #55 Share Posted April 14, 2018 (edited) There were no further announcements from the captain after we set back on course to Bayonne, I have to assume it did not end well. It really puts things into perspective. Anthem arrived back on time and we were off the boat and in our car by 7:30 AM. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I wonder how long the ships will continue the search ? Till he's either rescued OR 'recovered:eek: Or till he's considered ' missing. and resumed lost at sea'. I know the ships will search for only so long. So sad. Mac Edited April 14, 2018 by SmoothFlying Accidently added name twice Opps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted April 14, 2018 #56 Share Posted April 14, 2018 I wonder how long the ships will continue the search ? Till he's either rescued OR 'recovered:eek: Or till he's considered ' missing. and resumed lost at sea'. I know the ships will search for only so long. So sad. Mac I believe the ships have been released by USCG SAR, who are operating fixed and rotary wing aircraft for the search. Typically, merchant ships are only held on location until SAR assets arrive, as the ships are far less suitable platforms for search and rescue than the aircraft. How long the USCG continues the search is based on their operational doctrine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEENSAILING Posted April 14, 2018 #57 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Be careful of what? If someone goes into the water they were either trying or being really stupid. In addition to trying or being really stupid, add in drunk, mentally ill or pushed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmoothFlying Posted April 14, 2018 #58 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Captain Heinrich (sp?) announced the person was not found and coast guard will continue to search but we are headed back to Bayonne with all engines engaged and should be close to on time. So sad, prayers to this man's family. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I wonder how long the CG will continue to search? Till the overboard person is either rescued or recovered:eek: I know the CG will give it their usual 150% but I guess the senior CG commander on scene will sadly say, 'WE have exhausted all efforts so... IF the helicopters haven't had a visual, well.' Mac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmoothFlying Posted April 14, 2018 #59 Share Posted April 14, 2018 I believe the ships have been released by USCG SAR, who are operating fixed and rotary wing aircraft for the search. Typically, merchant ships are only held on location until SAR assets arrive, as the ships are far less suitable platforms for search and rescue than the aircraft. How long the USCG continues the search is based on their operational doctrine. Thanks, Chief. That answered both of my questions. I just didn't know how long the CG would continue the search. I would imagine a jump from the 15th deck, hitting the water could render one unable to swim or float without a life vest. Mac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted April 14, 2018 #60 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Thanks, Chief. That answered both of my questions. I just didn't know how long the CG would continue the search. I would imagine a jump from the 15th deck, hitting the water could render one unable to swim or float without a life vest. Mac It can very easily result in a broken spine or neck. Tower divers also experience the phenomenon of feeling the wind driven out of their chest if they don't land exactly right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerelmx Posted April 14, 2018 #61 Share Posted April 14, 2018 recent news https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/man-overboard-cruise-ship-new-jersey-search-chopper-479764723.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaneStarr Posted April 14, 2018 #62 Share Posted April 14, 2018 This is the second cruise ship to have a passenger go overboard in the last 24 hours. Just highlights that everyone really needs to be careful and think when on cruise ships. Most of the time if someone goes go in the water they are not coming out alive. I know I have lost items on small personal boats in the ocean, hats, cushions, etc.even in a small boat with double the speed and less than a meter off the water, by the time you turn around very hard to find the items if you even can. We were on the ship. There were witnesses that the 24 yr old man jumped off deck 15. Absolutely no way it was an accident. So awful. Prayers go out to the family. Captain Sorensen handled the announcements impressively. Set the right tone and kept us informed. Jane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelblu Posted April 14, 2018 #63 Share Posted April 14, 2018 recent news https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/man-overboard-cruise-ship-new-jersey-search-chopper-479764723.html What does unintentionally mean in the article. Also, someone at NBC should have done some homework as the "Gem" is shown in the clip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaAtlCruiser Posted April 14, 2018 #64 Share Posted April 14, 2018 What does unintentionally mean in the article. Also, someone at NBC should have done some homework as the "Gem" is shown in the clip. It said intentionally. At least when I read it - that is what it said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted April 14, 2018 #65 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Just heard about this. So sad. Condolences to the family and friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfagee Posted April 14, 2018 #66 Share Posted April 14, 2018 I was on the Gem. Our ship helped search, until released by the Coast Guard. We were told that he intentionally jumped off the ship. As of 11:00 am today, USCG called off the search since there was no hope that the man was still alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaneStarr Posted April 14, 2018 #67 Share Posted April 14, 2018 This photo shows one of the life rings and Norwegian Gem at 5:26pm yesterday. I shot it from the Diamond lounge on deck 4 (starboard). Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canoncruiser Posted April 14, 2018 #68 Share Posted April 14, 2018 I was on Anthem and on my balcony just above the Starboard Zodiac rescue boat which was quickly manned. Gem also aided in the attempt at rescue and it grew increasingly cold and dark. I saw a life ring was recovered but there was no sign of the young man. A lot of folks on board were really down and hoped against hope as our Master turned toward Bayonne. We had been circling for a couple of hours with the Gem but it was getting colder and more windy, and the sea was rising. Whatever family and friends he had who were on board are going to be affected for a good while. From what I could discern, the crew responded superbly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ReneeFLL Posted April 14, 2018 #69 Share Posted April 14, 2018 If this is correct then the search was called off. :( :( https://www.google.com/amp/s/articles.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2018/04/coast_guard_searches_for_man_who_jumped_overboard.amp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiseGal999 Posted April 14, 2018 #70 Share Posted April 14, 2018 What does unintentionally mean in the article. Also, someone at NBC should have done some homework as the "Gem" is shown in the clip. The article said he was seen INTENTIONALLY going overboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arzeena Posted April 14, 2018 #71 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Very sad. Prayers for the man and the family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champagne123 Posted April 14, 2018 #72 Share Posted April 14, 2018 (edited) My heart just breaks for his family. What in the world can be soooo bad, that one would end their life. Edited April 14, 2018 by champagne123 ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talex831 Posted April 14, 2018 #73 Share Posted April 14, 2018 My heart just breaks for his family. What in the world can be soooo bad, that one would end their life. When one truly sets out to commit suicide, they cannot feel or rationalize anything but the pain they are feeling. They just need the pain to end. I don’t think any of us who find it hard to comprehend can ever understand that kind of pain. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champagne123 Posted April 14, 2018 #74 Share Posted April 14, 2018 When one truly sets out to commit suicide, they cannot feel or rationalize anything but the pain they are feeling. They just need the pain to end. I don’t think any of us who find it hard to comprehend can ever understand that kind of pain. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Thank you, but it was really a rhetorical question. I am a TBI nurse and know what the answer is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apcci2 Posted April 14, 2018 #75 Share Posted April 14, 2018 That’s a bad deal all around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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