jordanaire Posted May 24, 2018 #1 Share Posted May 24, 2018 A friend just returned from a cruise aboard the Magic and said that the ship "shimmied" the entire cruise. More than any of the 15 Carnival ships he's sailed on. The vibration was very strong and very noticeable during the entire cruise. A crew member told him that "the stabilizers were not working" (whatever that means). Anyone else notice this? Sent from my LG-LS993 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poz222 Posted May 24, 2018 #2 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Only when She’s drunk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaxsMama Posted May 24, 2018 #3 Share Posted May 24, 2018 I totally believe this. Went in January and had horrible movement. Missed a port. Then read reviews of next few sailings and heard much of the same. Sent from my SM-G928V using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theHunter05 Posted May 25, 2018 #4 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Hope they fix it soon, we will be on the Magic in July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachbum53 Posted May 25, 2018 #5 Share Posted May 25, 2018 A friend just returned from a cruise aboard the Magic and said that the ship "shimmied" the entire cruise. More than any of the 15 Carnival ships he's sailed on. The vibration was very strong and very noticeable during the entire cruise. A crew member told him that "the stabilizers were not working" (whatever that means). Anyone else notice this? Sent from my LG-LS993 using Forums mobile app Was it anything like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A&Jfamily Posted May 25, 2018 #6 Share Posted May 25, 2018 The Magic does not normally shimmy - nor does any ship I have ever been on. I have felt it though in high seas when the stabilizers are coming out of the water - and it is much more in the aft rather than bow of the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palmetto Pilot Posted May 25, 2018 #7 Share Posted May 25, 2018 We felt a lot of movement of the Breeze last time we were on her, we figured it was just because we were forward and high up. But it was the most movement I've ever felt on a ship. I hope the Magic is smooth in september,we are taking out 3 year old for the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkerBee74 Posted May 25, 2018 #8 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Depends whether you splurged for Cheers or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb at sea Posted May 25, 2018 #9 Share Posted May 25, 2018 I've felt a "shimmy"..it's more of a vibration than visible movement, tho... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attran99 Posted May 25, 2018 #10 Share Posted May 25, 2018 We were on board in March/April for Spring Break/Easter. It was smooth sailing the entire 7 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evandbob Posted May 25, 2018 #11 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Thought this was about line dancing. You know shimmy shimmy coco bop shimmy shimmy bop. And the Magic was smooth sailing twice a year ago or so . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homosassa Posted May 25, 2018 #12 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Any ship will "shimmy" (yaw) depending on the direction of the waves hitting the ship. In January we were also on a cruise on HAL's Zuiderdam. Due to the weather patterns of multiple low pressure systems, we also had "shimmy" (and rolling and pitching) and missed one port because of winds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlandorandall Posted May 25, 2018 #13 Share Posted May 25, 2018 We were on the Magic in February this year and it felt like we would hit a huge wave a then the ship would shudder after. That’s the only way I know how to describe it. Also there were not waves big enough to be creating the feeling. Also my husband usually never feels the boat moving and he mentioned multiple times how he couldn’t believe how much it was rocking. It was strange as our weather was perfect and so was the sea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruziJenn Posted May 25, 2018 #14 Share Posted May 25, 2018 We were on Magic a month ago and didn't notice anything unusual....aft section balcony cabin on deck 6. I only noticed it a couple of times when we were docking at ports of call but really nothing that I didn't expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted May 25, 2018 #15 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Since the Magic does not have azipods, it should not experience the "azipod shimmy" that is common with those ships. I would be surprised if there were times that the stabilizers were coming out of the water, as you would be rolling extremely heavily, probably 25-30*, and very few would be able to keep their feet. Even without azipods, with following seas as ship can shimmy horizontally, as the seas fight against the rudders, and the actions of the autopilot to maintain course. Also, with following seas, the propellers tend to lift closer to the surface, and the vibration from the blade passage to the hull increases. When a ship "slams" into waves, or "shudders" when hitting a wave, even waves of moderate height, it is an indication that the ship's speed and the wave period (time between waves) are out of synchronism, and the flare of the bow comes down as the new wave tries to lift it and creates the "slamming" sensation. Usually, a slight variation in speed can reduce this, or a slight variation of course to take the seas at a different angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palmetto Pilot Posted May 25, 2018 #16 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Since the Magic does not have azipods, it should not experience the "azipod shimmy" that is common with those ships. Does it have a traditional shaft and propeller? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted May 25, 2018 #17 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Does it have a traditional shaft and propeller? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palmetto Pilot Posted May 25, 2018 #18 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Yes. Any particular reason why they did that? I was under the impression that azmuthing pods were sort of the standard. Also I’m unrelated but I’m interested why are pods typically pullers while fixed are pushers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted May 25, 2018 #19 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Any particular reason why they did that? I was under the impression that azmuthing pods were sort of the standard. Also I’m unrelated but I’m interested why are pods typically pullers while fixed are pushers? When she was ordered was the height of the azipod problems with the older AO model azipods having bearing failures, so some lines like Carnival and NCL went back to prop and rudder ships. Of course, the shafted propellers have to be "pushers" since the shaft is forward of it. By placing the propeller in front of the motor pod, you get a cleaner flow of water into the propeller, and a more efficient propeller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tandemcruzr Posted May 25, 2018 #20 Share Posted May 25, 2018 We were on the Magic 4/14 - 4/28. No noticeable 'shimmy' that we recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joepeka Posted May 25, 2018 #21 Share Posted May 25, 2018 When she was ordered was the height of the azipod problems with the older AO model azipods having bearing failures, so some lines like Carnival and NCL went back to prop and rudder ships. Of course, the shafted propellers have to be "pushers" since the shaft is forward of it. By placing the propeller in front of the motor pod, you get a cleaner flow of water into the propeller, and a more efficient propeller. Slightly off topic, but have any of the newer builds (from any line) gone back (or plan to go back) to azipods? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted May 25, 2018 #22 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Slightly off topic, but have any of the newer builds (from any line) gone back (or plan to go back) to azipods? Almost all of them have gone back to pods. It was just a few year period, around 2005-2008. With the introduction of the XO model azipod, the repair situation changed dramatically, since the problematic bearing could be changed without drydocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joepeka Posted May 25, 2018 #23 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Almost all of them have gone back to pods. It was just a few year period, around 2005-2008. With the introduction of the XO model azipod, the repair situation changed dramatically, since the problematic bearing could be changed without drydocking. Thanks Chief. Just one more: have any of the older ships with the problematic pods had their pods replaced with the newer model you mention? Or do the cruise lines continue to just dry dock and replace the faulty bearings when required? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drazil65 Posted May 25, 2018 #24 Share Posted May 25, 2018 We were on the Magic 3/31-4/7 this year and last year in Spring, nothing noticeable. We rarely feel movement on the bigger ships, pretty much never actually (we are always deck 7 or above, can't speak to the lower decks). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dremac373 Posted June 5, 2018 #25 Share Posted June 5, 2018 I hope i forget all bout this in August so that i'm not spending7 days trying to notice these shimmy's lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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