Rare MVPinBoynton Posted January 14, 2019 #1 Share Posted January 14, 2019 We are currently on Edge. They have closed down the Grand Cafe area next to the Martini Bar. I asked about it and they are looking at changing its use to perhaps to make the bar area larger. I guess that X is listening and realize the lack of a large before dinner venue with music is needed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare shipshape sam Posted January 14, 2019 #2 Share Posted January 14, 2019 1 minute ago, MVPinBoynton said: We are currently on Edge. They have closed down the Grand Cafe area next to the Martini Bar. I asked about it and they are looking at changing its use to perhaps to make the bar area larger. I guess that X is listening and realize the lack of a large before dinner venue with music is needed. Hope the do listen. Hope you are enjoying the cruise too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kearney Posted January 14, 2019 #3 Share Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) 32 minutes ago, MVPinBoynton said: We are currently on Edge. They have closed down the Grand Cafe area next to the Martini Bar. I asked about it and they are looking at changing its use to perhaps to make the bar area larger. I guess that X is listening and realize the lack of a large before dinner venue with music is needed. I looked at the deck plan.... I thought that was part of the Martini bar... that is were we sat every day for pre dinner cocktails... listening to the music... we sat right next to the staircase that went from deck 3 to that mid level section...where the music was. Can't see how closing this adds space for the bar... it takes space away. Are we talking about the same space? This area was part of bar service back in Dec.... were they serving food there on your cruise? The only food they served when we were there was trail mix...or something like it Edited January 14, 2019 by kearney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare hcat Posted January 14, 2019 #4 Share Posted January 14, 2019 35 minutes ago, MVPinBoynton said: We are currently on Edge. They have closed down the Grand Cafe area next to the Martini Bar. I asked about it and they are looking at changing its use to perhaps to make the bar area larger. I guess that X is listening and realize the lack of a large before dinner venue with music is needed. Thanks for the update Wonder when or what they will decide...we cruise on the 27th. Was that a grab and go lunch cafe? Keep us posted! Have a great cruise, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hvsteve1 Posted January 14, 2019 #5 Share Posted January 14, 2019 The cafe is in the upper corner of the diagram under cabin 3151. What is labeled as Grand Plaza Cafe ended up being used as seating for the Martini Bar. The cafe had coffees, soft drinks and light snacks such as pastries and wraps. It was a very convenient spot for a snack or light lunch if you didn't want to go to a restaurant. It's really in a corner behind the bar so I can't see it being used for anything else than a few more tables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WonderMan3 Posted January 14, 2019 #6 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Wise move. They should turn into something like Crush on the S-class ships which was basically overflow seating for the Martini Bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kearney Posted January 14, 2019 #7 Share Posted January 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, hvsteve1 said: The cafe is in the upper corner of the diagram under cabin 3151. What is labeled as Grand Plaza Cafe ended up being used as seating for the Martini Bar. The cafe had coffees, soft drinks and light snacks such as pastries and wraps. It was a very convenient spot for a snack or light lunch if you didn't want to go to a restaurant. It's really in a corner behind the bar so I can't see it being used for anything else than a few more tables. This is so confusing... so the OP is incorrect that "the Grand Cafe area next to the Martini Bar"... as shown in the diagram and referred to in the post.. is NOT the area that is being closed... but instead they closed Cafe al Bacio on deck 4? I assume they are NOT closing Le Grand Bistro. Too many names sound alike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kearney Posted January 14, 2019 #8 Share Posted January 14, 2019 I reread Steve's post.... Man we sat there every day... I never noticed some place to get food in the corner... is that what you are talking about... near the service door where my server went to get my pina colada? Did they serve food over there? I just recall tables just like the one were were at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hvsteve1 Posted January 14, 2019 #9 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Maybe I misunderstood the OP. I find it strange they would close that large area labeled Grand Cafe as I already see complaints about finding seating in the Martini Bar area. I assumed it was the coffee bar area to the left and behind the Martini Bar on the lowest level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestLakeGirl Posted January 14, 2019 #10 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Perhaps they just closed the food service kiosk. That would add room for three or four tables Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare hcat Posted January 14, 2019 #11 Share Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) He did not say Cafe Baccio..so must assume he described the spot correctly .He has been on the ship previously and has done ab extensive review As per deck plans, Cafe Baccio is one deck up on 4 .as is Le Grand Bistro. Where does the band or performers or DJ set up near the Martini Bar?? Edited January 14, 2019 by hcat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMLAalum Posted January 14, 2019 #12 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Like Kearney we never saw the food service kiosk. What would help IMHO would be if the Grand Bistro was reduced in size so that the section overlooking the Grand Plaza could become a cocktail lounge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestLakeGirl Posted January 14, 2019 #13 Share Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) Grand Bistro is the restaurant with the crepes, yes? Edited January 14, 2019 by WestLakeGirl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare hcat Posted January 14, 2019 #14 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Yes crepes etc daytime...le petit chef at night Deck plan shows Grand Plaza Cafe alongside Martini Bar..and then a luttle cut out area at the end.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelayne Posted January 14, 2019 #15 Share Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, hcat said: He did not say Cafe Baccio..so must assume he described the spot correctly .He has been on the ship previously and has done ab extensive review As per deck plans, Cafe Baccio is one deck up on 5..as is Le Grand Bistro. Where does the band or performers or DJ set up near the Martini Bar?? Cafe al Bacio on the Edge is on deck 4 not 5 on the Edge. Le Grand Bistro is also on deck 4 and operating-was there today. It is where they do Le Petit Chef. What is on the deck plan posted by Kearny as the Grand Plaza Cafe is on deck 3 and as MVPinBoyntin said no food served. Maybe on earlier sailings but I find there plenty of places to eat. performers set up near the grand piano opposite the Martini Bar. Edited January 14, 2019 by jelayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecslady Posted January 14, 2019 #16 Share Posted January 14, 2019 1 hour ago, WonderMan3 said: Wise move. They should turn into something like Crush on the S-class ships which was basically overflow seating for the Martini Bar. That area is already the overflow seating area for the Martini Bar. We sat there and so did a lot of people when you couldn't get a seat closer. I honestly don't see how this will change things, unless they are talking about taking the food kiosk out, and putting a couple more tables in its place. whoopee! That will add another 6 seats or so. Still not enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare hcat Posted January 15, 2019 #17 Share Posted January 15, 2019 45 minutes ago, jelayne said: Cafe al Bacio on the Edge is on deck 4 not 5 on the Edge. Le Grand Bistro is also on deck 4 and operating-was there today. It is where they do Le Petit Chef. What is on the deck plan posted by Kearny as the Grand Plaza Cafe is on deck 3 and as MVPinBoyntin said no food served. Maybe on earlier sailings but I find there plenty of places to eat. performers set up near the grand piano opposite the Martini Bar. .i realized my big error and edited my post to say 4..but apparently not quickly enough, so sorry for adding to the confusion! What if anything was happening at the Deck 3 Grand Plaza Cafe? Is it taking overflow from the Martini Bar? Is MB that crowded ..or just at prime times? Has anyone played the Grand Piano in a concert,? That would be great during the day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kearney Posted January 15, 2019 #18 Share Posted January 15, 2019 I am wondering if the kiosk was already removed by the 12/16 sailing... This is why I was confused about what was closed... because I faced that way for probably 5 out of 7 nights and all I recall was seeing people seated there in similar seats as those across that side of the area... the only food I was aware of was the bottle of trail mix we got. I assumed the only close place for a snack was the Cafe al Bacio... if it was there... I agree with ecslady... won't add but 6 seats or so.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwokpot Posted January 15, 2019 #19 Share Posted January 15, 2019 28 minutes ago, kearney said: I am wondering if the kiosk was already removed by the 12/16 sailing... This is why I was confused about what was closed... because I faced that way for probably 5 out of 7 nights and all I recall was seeing people seated there in similar seats as those across that side of the area... the only food I was aware of was the bottle of trail mix we got. I assumed the only close place for a snack was the Cafe al Bacio... if it was there... I agree with ecslady... won't add but 6 seats or so.... I was on the Dec. 16th sailing and never saw any kind of food being offered anywhere near the Martini bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MVPinBoynton Posted January 15, 2019 Author #20 Share Posted January 15, 2019 4 hours ago, kearney said: I looked at the deck plan.... I thought that was part of the Martini bar... that is were we sat every day for pre dinner cocktails... listening to the music... we sat right next to the staircase that went from deck 3 to that mid level section...where the music was. Can't see how closing this adds space for the bar... it takes space away. Are we talking about the same space? This area was part of bar service back in Dec.... were they serving food there on your cruise? The only food they served when we were there was trail mix...or something like it That is the space. They are planning to something different with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MVPinBoynton Posted January 15, 2019 Author #21 Share Posted January 15, 2019 3 hours ago, kearney said: This is so confusing... so the OP is incorrect that "the Grand Cafe area next to the Martini Bar"... as shown in the diagram and referred to in the post.. is NOT the area that is being closed... but instead they closed Cafe al Bacio on deck 4? I assume they are NOT closing Le Grand Bistro. Too many names sound alike. It is the Grand Cafe that is closed off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MVPinBoynton Posted January 15, 2019 Author #22 Share Posted January 15, 2019 It is strange, since it has taken seating away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecslady Posted January 15, 2019 #23 Share Posted January 15, 2019 1 hour ago, kearney said: I am wondering if the kiosk was already removed by the 12/16 sailing... This is why I was confused about what was closed... because I faced that way for probably 5 out of 7 nights and all I recall was seeing people seated there in similar seats as those across that side of the area... the only food I was aware of was the bottle of trail mix we got. I assumed the only close place for a snack was the Cafe al Bacio... if it was there... I agree with ecslady... won't add but 6 seats or so.... I only saw the kiosk open with food during the day, not in the evening. Perhaps that's why you never noticed it sitting there at night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwokpot Posted January 15, 2019 #24 Share Posted January 15, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, ecslady said: I only saw the kiosk open with food during the day, not in the evening. Perhaps that's why you never noticed it sitting there at night. I'm looking at the daily planners for the Dec. 16th cruise and there's no reference to the Grand Plaza Cafe anywhere. The only place I see it listed is the the little ship directory that's given out. Strangely, in that reference guide it's listed under lounges rather than under dining. Anyway, none of the daily planners has a listing for it whether in lounges or dining. That's why I have no idea what this is! Edited January 15, 2019 by kwokpot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwokpot Posted January 15, 2019 #25 Share Posted January 15, 2019 (edited) Here is a photo. Unfortunately it's not a closeup of the space in question but you can clearly see the space which would be to the left of the Martini bar. Edited January 15, 2019 by kwokpot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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