RuthC Posted April 6, 2019 #176 Share Posted April 6, 2019 No. (let's see if this 'takes' this time) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iancal Posted April 6, 2019 #177 Share Posted April 6, 2019 I think the challenge on asking this board is that many are old timers (as am I) and HAL loyalists (I am not) and they never want to see any change. Does not matter if it is ship, entertainment, dress, price or whatever....they do not want change. They claim they are willing to pay more but it seems to me that they still stick with HAL instead of paying more and moving from this mass market line. They want what they had in 1990 but they want to pay the same but in 2018 dollars! Go figure. They are not even willing to pay, in inflation adjusted dollars, what they paid 20 years ago. Instead, they expect HAL to swallow the expenses and include it in their Mariner benefits. Life is not like that. You need to pay for what you get. I am not a HAL or any other cruise line booster but I do know my way around a P&L and we do travel about four months a year. Either the price increases or the product offering decreases. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slidergirl Posted April 6, 2019 #178 Share Posted April 6, 2019 3 hours ago, Fouremco said: LOL. Nice try, but the OP edited the initial post within a minute of posting it last Sunday, and you didn't cast your first (!) vote until four hours later. Some people have waaaay too much time on their hands. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avian777 Posted April 6, 2019 #179 Share Posted April 6, 2019 3 hours ago, iancal said: I think the challenge on asking this board is that many are old timers (as am I) and HAL loyalists (I am not) and they never want to see any change. Does not matter if it is ship, entertainment, dress, price or whatever....they do not want change. They claim they are willing to pay more but it seems to me that they still stick with HAL instead of paying more and moving from this mass market line. They want what they had in 1990 but they want to pay the same but in 2018 dollars! Go figure. They are not even willing to pay, in inflation adjusted dollars, what they paid 20 years ago. Instead, they expect HAL to swallow the expenses and include it in their Mariner benefits. Life is not like that. You need to pay for what you get. I am not a HAL or any other cruise line booster but I do know my way around a P&L and we do travel about four months a year. Either the price increases or the product offering decreases. 👍👍👍 Thanks for this very perceptive Post. For the record, I admit to being a HAL loyalist who is especially grateful to CCL for providing a very good value for the money. And given a choice of having service cut-backs or price increases, I'll take price increases every day because, after adjusting for inflation, my cruises cost less today than they did when we started cruising over 25 years ago. As a CCL shareholder, I expect HAL to do what is necessary to make a profit, so I wholeheartedly support HAL charging for 2nd entrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruzin4us Posted April 6, 2019 Author #180 Share Posted April 6, 2019 OP here.....I'm gone for a day and I wasn't here to defend myself. First of all, I thought I was starting a poll, but for some reason posted in the thread section....I've never started a poll and apparently I screwed it up. I tried to "EDIT" the post to be an actual poll but it wouldn't let me.....thus you see my edit. Secondly, I realize this is not a Nationwide Poll regulated by some government agency. I just saw the other thread that had something like 1,000 (don't quote me on the exact figure) posts and I was just trying to figure out how to find out in a ONE WORD answer the feel of people. Obviously, I needed to add a bunch more instructions regarding this. A lot of you have ADD apparently Any questions???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicd1969 Posted April 6, 2019 #181 Share Posted April 6, 2019 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare *Miss G* Posted April 6, 2019 #182 Share Posted April 6, 2019 This thread has been way more fun than I thought it would be. 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCBAY4 Posted April 6, 2019 #183 Share Posted April 6, 2019 NO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esimon Posted April 6, 2019 #184 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Yes !!!!! people waste food Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruisemom42 Posted April 6, 2019 #185 Share Posted April 6, 2019 16 hours ago, iancal said: I really see no difference in signing for an additional meal and signing for a bottle of wine or a drink. I do not see any impact on the MDR experience....such as it is You may not feel it will impact the MDR experience, and you're entitled to that opinion. But others are also entitled to their opinions that it will make a change. IMO all the many little changes together continue to degrade the MDR experience, including fewer courses offered, lowered ratio of servers to customer, lower quality ingredients used, lack of enforcement of the minimal dress code, etc. I prefer dining in the MDR to anywhere else aboard ship, and so yes, I am of the opinion that it will have an impact, and I would greatly prefer that it not be implemented. Am I willing to die on my sword over this? No, I've never said that. But I'd prefer that they do not implement the change... 12 hours ago, iancal said: I think the challenge on asking this board is that many are old timers (as am I) and HAL loyalists (I am not) and they never want to see any change. Does not matter if it is ship, entertainment, dress, price or whatever....they do not want change. They claim they are willing to pay more but it seems to me that they still stick with HAL instead of paying more and moving from this mass market line. They want what they had in 1990 but they want to pay the same but in 2018 dollars! Go figure. They are not even willing to pay, in inflation adjusted dollars, what they paid 20 years ago. Instead, they expect HAL to swallow the expenses and include it in their Mariner benefits. Life is not like that. You need to pay for what you get. I am not a HAL or any other cruise line booster but I do know my way around a P&L and we do travel about four months a year. Either the price increases or the product offering decreases. I cruise with a variety of lines, some more upscale than HAL and others that are about the same. I am no HAL cheerleader or loyalist who will stick with HAL no matter what. And I've voiced many times my willingness to pay a higher fare overall to prevent these "deaths by a thousand cuts". The problem for me is that, when it comes down to it, HAL is often the line I am interested in due to their very good itineraries. Human nature being what it is, I'd like to continue cruising HAL for that reason, but also would like to enjoy my time onboard ship. I'm not opposed to change: some of the recent changes HAL has made (in offering additional music venues) have made the ships more attractive to me. And I'm all for a less formal dress code (but would still like to see it enforced. Shorts and graphic tees in the MDR for dinner is a bit much for me). But for a cruise line whose marketing tagline has been "Savor the journey", I feel they need to step up the game where it comes to the MDR experience. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janmcn Posted April 6, 2019 #186 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanvilleDave Posted April 6, 2019 #187 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Paying an extra $10 for an entree AFTER I paid double for my single occupancy ... NFW Seems like this is more of a Carnival ship nickel and dimming you to death. Lots of other lines to choose from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avian777 Posted April 7, 2019 #188 Share Posted April 7, 2019 On 4/5/2019 at 7:44 PM, whogo said: Yes. And $20 for the third, $30 for the fourth, $40 for the fifth, etc. Great idea - I'll be sure to include it on my next HAL survey response. 👍👍👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted April 7, 2019 #189 Share Posted April 7, 2019 On 4/6/2019 at 1:34 AM, cruzin4us said: First of all, I thought I was starting a poll, but for some reason posted in the thread section....I've never started a poll and apparently I screwed it up. I tried to "EDIT" the post to be an actual poll but it wouldn't let me.....thus you see my edit. I don't recall seeing any polls since this website changed. Is it even possible anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare *Miss G* Posted April 7, 2019 #190 Share Posted April 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Aquahound said: I don't recall seeing any polls since this website changed. Is it even possible anymore? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouremco Posted April 7, 2019 #191 Share Posted April 7, 2019 6 hours ago, Aquahound said: I don't recall seeing any polls since this website changed. Is it even possible anymore? Yes. Here's one started just a week ago: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare *Miss G* Posted April 7, 2019 #192 Share Posted April 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Fouremco said: Yes. Here's one started just a week ago: Same one I linked in the post before yours. 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouremco Posted April 7, 2019 #193 Share Posted April 7, 2019 1 minute ago, *Miss G* said: Same one I linked in the post before yours. 😉 Yes, I had responded before seeing your post. Great minds think alike! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmats Posted April 7, 2019 #194 Share Posted April 7, 2019 Yes. Prevents waste and I never wanted a second entree anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare FlaMariner Posted April 7, 2019 #195 Share Posted April 7, 2019 Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjohn42 Posted April 7, 2019 #196 Share Posted April 7, 2019 NO!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooklyn Bridget Posted April 8, 2019 #197 Share Posted April 8, 2019 (edited) Where is the poll? How can I see the result? Edited April 8, 2019 by Brooklyn Bridget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted April 8, 2019 #198 Share Posted April 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, Brooklyn Bridget said: Where is the poll? How can I see the result? There is no official poll with results attached to this thread. For current results, it is a matter of using one's Mark 1 eyeball in conjunction with one's cerebrum inside one's cranium with or without a parchment. Poster catl331 accomplished this feat in her post #148 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catl331 Posted April 8, 2019 #199 Share Posted April 8, 2019 6 hours ago, Brooklyn Bridget said: Where is the poll? How can I see the result? Updating since post #148 and deducting 3 over-votes by avian777, it now stands at No 81, Yes 57 by my count. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted April 8, 2019 #200 Share Posted April 8, 2019 23 hours ago, *Miss G* said: Yes 16 hours ago, Fouremco said: Yes. Here's one started just a week ago: Roger that. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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