amyotravel Posted June 25, 2019 #1 Share Posted June 25, 2019 https://carnival-news.com/2019/06/25/carnival-vista-dry-dock-update/ I don't love the sound of that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorgiCruiser123 Posted June 25, 2019 #2 Share Posted June 25, 2019 So what is she doing between now and July 9? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadawn1 Posted June 25, 2019 #3 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Just now, CorgiCruiser123 said: So what is she doing between now and July 9? Sailing at half speed! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amyotravel Posted June 25, 2019 Author #4 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Yup. Worried because cruise lines (not just Carnival) have thought the repairs worked and then come to find out there are more issues. I don't like that whatever this is has not been done before. I am hopefully on this ship in less than 3 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatour Posted June 25, 2019 #5 Share Posted June 25, 2019 33 minutes ago, CorgiCruiser123 said: So what is she doing between now and July 9? They extended the two cruises between now and July 9 by one day each. Interesting about "first of its kind" procedure. I was surprised that Vista was able to get a drydock scheduled for 9 Jul, what with the state of the "large" drydock vis a vi the Royal incident/accident making that dry dock out of commission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amyotravel Posted June 25, 2019 Author #6 Share Posted June 25, 2019 It sounds like maybe that dry dock issue is part of the problem of why they have to do it this different way. Boo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare shof515 Posted June 25, 2019 #7 Share Posted June 25, 2019 the royal incident was also a first of its procedure that turned out bad. hopefully carnival procedure goes much much better with ships getting bigger and bigger, there is an issue of finding drydock facilitates that can fit the ships. looks like freeport is getting creative to squeeze the big ships Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VentureMan_2000 Posted June 25, 2019 #8 Share Posted June 25, 2019 (edited) Well, I think you all are reading a lot into "a first-of-its-kind procedure to facilitate the repair". I read it as Carnival is working with commercial shipping companies to use their facilities as needed for emergency dry-dock repairs, instead of having to wait for a cruise ship dry dock to become available, such as the Grand Bahama Shipyard. The negotiations is the contract piece. Edited June 25, 2019 by VentureMan_2000 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted June 25, 2019 #9 Share Posted June 25, 2019 The July 1st 8 day cruise seems very popular. I was thinking of jumping on it, but prices seem high to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare shof515 Posted June 25, 2019 #10 Share Posted June 25, 2019 17 minutes ago, BlerkOne said: The July 1st 8 day cruise seems very popular. I was thinking of jumping on it, but prices seem high to me. john h will be on the cruise as CD..that always make it popular 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted June 25, 2019 #11 Share Posted June 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, shof515 said: john h will be on the cruise as CD..that always make it popular Oh. I was just looking at all the sea days! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palmetto Pilot Posted June 26, 2019 #12 Share Posted June 26, 2019 1 hour ago, BlerkOne said: Oh. I was just looking at all the sea days! I love sea days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffatsea Posted June 26, 2019 #13 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Trouble with Vista was one of the reasons listed on their stock report as to why they were making less money this quarter and the stock went down today! That and the cancelled Cuba cruises have caused a lot of trouble and have cost the corporation lots of money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lottacruises Posted June 26, 2019 #14 Share Posted June 26, 2019 I've heard it's probably going to be six weeks but I don't really believe it. I guess we will know in a month. Sorry for those that their cruises are cancelled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N7786W Flyer Posted June 26, 2019 #15 Share Posted June 26, 2019 1 hour ago, riffatsea said: Trouble with Vista was one of the reasons listed on their stock report as to why they were making less money this quarter and the stock went down today! That and the cancelled Cuba cruises have caused a lot of trouble and have cost the corporation lots of money! Carnival stock has dropped 14% in the last 4 trading days. Of course, not all of that is related to the Vista and her issues. Some is related to the dropped Cuba cruises as well as other financial concerns. Garnett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
courtlynndear Posted June 26, 2019 #16 Share Posted June 26, 2019 😐 Doesn't seem very good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BNBR Posted June 26, 2019 #17 Share Posted June 26, 2019 10 hours ago, N7786W Flyer said: Carnival stock has dropped 14% in the last 4 trading days. Of course, not all of that is related to the Vista and her issues. Some is related to the dropped Cuba cruises as well as other financial concerns. Garnett It probably has to do with Carnival repackaging the same ship design for 20 years now. It's not working. They can't get the fares of competitors because they aren't introducing anything new. Lower fares mean on board cutbacks, more and more of them. Which means even lower fares and cutbacks. It's a downward spiral. I wouldn't even consider Carnival stock to hold. I haven't seen any signs of them competing long term. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mredandchis Posted June 26, 2019 #18 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Good time to buy Carnival stock as this to shall pass. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffatsea Posted June 26, 2019 #19 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Agree that this is a good time to buy if you don't have any yet! The perks for owning stock plus the dividend makes it still an attractive buy. The reasons for the downturn were very specific and have nothing to do with the ideas above. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatour Posted June 26, 2019 #20 Share Posted June 26, 2019 22 hours ago, shof515 said: the royal incident was also a first of its procedure that turned out bad. hopefully carnival procedure goes much much better with ships getting bigger and bigger, there is an issue of finding drydock facilitates that can fit the ships. looks like freeport is getting creative to squeeze the big ships Actually it was the second time that Royal used the procedure on the same class ship. Allure was the first and it was successful 22 hours ago, VentureMan_2000 said: Well, I think you all are reading a lot into "a first-of-its-kind procedure to facilitate the repair". I read it as Carnival is working with commercial shipping companies to use their facilities as needed for emergency dry-dock repairs, instead of having to wait for a cruise ship dry dock to become available, such as the Grand Bahama Shipyard. The negotiations is the contract piece. The thing that catches my eye is that Vista is a relatively new ship and thusly large. All of the "large" dry docks on the East Coast are dedicated to supporting the US Navy. While there are dry docks on the east coast to support the US registered commercial fleets, they are relatively small. I am wondering if this "first of its kind procedure" would be utilizing one of the east commercial dry-docks much like what they were doing in regards to Oasis at Freeport. I.E. lifting Vista's "butt" so they can access the azipods to replace the bearings. Just speculation on my part. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted June 26, 2019 #21 Share Posted June 26, 2019 20 hours ago, riffatsea said: Trouble with Vista was one of the reasons listed on their stock report as to why they were making less money this quarter and the stock went down today! That and the cancelled Cuba cruises have caused a lot of trouble and have cost the corporation lots of money! Earning report for a quarter was down due to one ship that just got a problem???? Can you point me to that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted June 26, 2019 #22 Share Posted June 26, 2019 8 hours ago, BNBR said: It probably has to do with Carnival repackaging the same ship design for 20 years now. It's not working. They can't get the fares of competitors because they aren't introducing anything new. Lower fares mean on board cutbacks, more and more of them. Which means even lower fares and cutbacks. It's a downward spiral. I wouldn't even consider Carnival stock to hold. I haven't seen any signs of them competing long term. LOL, doing something for 20 years sure seems to work to me.... Lower fares ....wrong. Tie to cutbacks....wrong. I am shocked you would not consider buying Carnival stock, what you being such a big fan and all... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BNBR Posted June 26, 2019 #23 Share Posted June 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, jimbo5544 said: LOL, doing something for 20 years sure seems to work to me.... Lower fares ....wrong. Tie to cutbacks....wrong. I am shocked you would not consider buying Carnival stock, what you being such a big fan and all... Nothing I said was wrong. But the truth clearly hurts your feelings. And for that, I apologize. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProgRockCruiser Posted June 26, 2019 #24 Share Posted June 26, 2019 (edited) 20 hours ago, riffatsea said: Trouble with Vista was one of the reasons listed on their stock report as to why they were making less money this quarter and the stock went down today! That and the cancelled Cuba cruises have caused a lot of trouble and have cost the corporation lots of money! 7 minutes ago, jimbo5544 said: Earning report for a quarter was down due to one ship that just got a problem???? Can you point me to that? Jim, the latest quarterly report was released on June 20th - Carnival Corp's fiscal years ends Nov 30th. It stated: "Voyage disruptions related to Carnival Vista are expected to have a financial impact of approximately $0.08 to $0.10 per share." http://www.carnivalcorp.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=140690&p=irol-newsArticle&id=2401917 Yes, I too was surprised at the immediacy of the news inclusion. Though it wasn't a revenue/profit impact for that quarter, but a future outlook statement. Edited June 26, 2019 by ProgRockCruiser 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted June 26, 2019 #25 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Just now, BNBR said: Nothing I said was wrong. But the truth clearly hurts your feelings. And for that, I apologize. Can you show me the lower fares and ties to cutbacks, would love to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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