sunonfire Posted December 17, 2019 #1 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Here is a link to the article. https://cruiseradio.net/carnivals-new-dress-code-could-face-an-uphill-battle/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe817 Posted December 17, 2019 #2 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Well, I for one, hope their new policy is effective. I cringed every time I saw someone with a profanity bearing tshirt. It'll be hard to enforce though, like the article states. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momof3cruisers Posted December 17, 2019 #3 Share Posted December 17, 2019 I find it interesting that the article states that cruise lines often take a hard stance on enforcing rules like chair hogs and formal night attire. That author has obviously never sailed Carnival. i like the new policy especially in regard to profanity or sexual innuendo. Little kids don’t need to be seeing that. But I have a hard time believing anything will be done about. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanmarcosman Posted December 17, 2019 #4 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Expecting security to confront them someone will wear a shirt that says: " Take your hands off me! " 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canes20 Posted December 17, 2019 #5 Share Posted December 17, 2019 23 minutes ago, momof3cruisers said: I find it interesting that the article states that cruise lines often take a hard stance on enforcing rules like chair hogs and formal night attire. That author has obviously never sailed Carnival. As for the question of enforcement, several in the comments section pointed out that it’s far easier to make rules than it is to impose them. Cruise lines often take strong stances when it comes to things like chair hogs or making sure people wear proper attire to the dining room on formal night, but enforcement of these rules is haphazard at best. The statement says they take a strong stance but enforcement is not followed if you read the entire paragraph. So they probably have sailed on Carnival. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare PrincessArlena'sDad Posted December 17, 2019 #6 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Problem is people just don't have common sense. Yeah, it is easy on either end: profanity t shirt banned, Mickey mouse is not. But, where do you draw the line? People expect a bright line rule, and if such a bright line isn't strictly used, they get all antagonistic. Problem is, such a bright line doesn't exist. Those enforcing the policy need to use common sense, which is often sorely lacking. And, if individuals disagree with the decision makers, they need to have the common sense to understand that it's ok if people don't agree with them on close calls and let it go. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted December 17, 2019 #7 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Overdue 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 1025cruise Posted December 17, 2019 #8 Share Posted December 17, 2019 At least by having the written rule, if they go to enforce it they have the backing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare WhaleTailFlCruiser Posted December 17, 2019 #9 Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 hour ago, sunonfire said: Here is a link to the article. https://cruiseradio.net/carnivals-new-dress-code-could-face-an-uphill-battle/ Has been needed, My real question is why are you going to sail on a Cruise line you hate only to try and promote another and probably irritate other passengers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coevan Posted December 18, 2019 #10 Share Posted December 18, 2019 We definitely enforce any shirts with fowl language. We are a family restaurant and take this very seriously. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe817 Posted December 18, 2019 #11 Share Posted December 18, 2019 16 minutes ago, coevan said: We definitely enforce any shirts with fowl language. We are a family restaurant and take this very seriously. Well put. I hope Carnival takes the same position. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunonfire Posted December 18, 2019 Author #12 Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 hour ago, WhaleTailFlCruiser said: Has been needed, My real question is why are you going to sail on a Cruise line you hate only to try and promote another and probably irritate other passengers? I have no idea what you are claiming. You obviously have mistaken me for some one else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elaine5715 Posted December 18, 2019 #13 Share Posted December 18, 2019 So, when a guest is offended when someone is wearing a ragged tshirt and shorts in dining room on Elegant Night, John mocks them but if someone wearing a shirt that reads "Vegan Miss Steak" they will spring into action to protect someone's feelings? Doubt it. Maybe attire displaying George Carlin's famous 7 (American) words will be affected especially after a stop at Key West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted December 18, 2019 #14 Share Posted December 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, Elaine5715 said: So, when a guest is offended when someone is wearing a ragged tshirt and shorts in dining room on Elegant Night, John mocks them but if someone wearing a shirt that reads "Vegan Miss Steak" they will spring into action to protect someone's feelings? Doubt it. Maybe attire displaying George Carlin's famous 7 (American) words will be affected especially after a stop at Key West Somebody is an angry elf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare WhaleTailFlCruiser Posted December 18, 2019 #15 Share Posted December 18, 2019 51 minutes ago, sunonfire said: I have no idea what you are claiming. You obviously have mistaken me for some one else. I never claimed it was you but the Rule was put in place because a Lady hates Carnival was going to sail on her upcoming cruise and wear shirts that said rude and vile things Directed at Carnival/JH all the while promoting another line. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elaine5715 Posted December 18, 2019 #16 Share Posted December 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, jimbo5544 said: Somebody is an angry elf Just a realist... This new dress code puts itself in the impossible category when they went past vulgar. "Commentary" is opinion. If I am offended by your opinion, you must appease me once I complain to crew. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted December 18, 2019 #17 Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Elaine5715 said: Just a realist... This new dress code puts itself in the impossible category when they went past vulgar. "Commentary" is opinion. If I am offended by your opinion, you must appease me once I complain to crew. It’s actually fairly easy as to where to draw the line, harder to implement how to handle it. I vote for asking first time and put off at next port and banned for life if it does not work. What is NOT thee issue here is John and the coward school bullies that hate and do juvenile pranks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanmarcosman Posted December 18, 2019 #18 Share Posted December 18, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, WhaleTailFlCruiser said: I never claimed it was you but the Rule was put in place because a Lady hates Carnival was going to sail on her upcoming cruise and wear shirts that said rude and vile things Directed at Carnival/JH all the while promoting another line. The article does refer to her as a lady. Some " Lady. " When did people stop making the distinction between a lady and a woman? Edited December 18, 2019 by sanmarcosman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naxer Posted December 18, 2019 #19 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Well, this is a thread I'll avoid from here on out. 😀 45 days to the Panorama. I'm not gonna look or pay attention to ANY of your T-shirts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elaine5715 Posted December 18, 2019 #20 Share Posted December 18, 2019 56 minutes ago, jimbo5544 said: It’s actually fairly easy as to where to draw the line, harder to implement how to handle it. I vote for asking first time and put off at next port and banned for life if it does not work. What is NOT thee issue here is John and the coward school bullies that hate and do juvenile pranks. What does that have to do with John's statements that this new policy will be "definitely enforced' since he frequently throws complaints from cruisers about current dress codes to the wolves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pe4all Posted December 18, 2019 #21 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I have seen some pretty vulgar t-shirts on my cruises. I have also seen some thong bikinis that are literally dental floss and nipple covers, along with banana hammocks for men. Some people find those just as offensive as vulgar sayings on shirts. I don't think CCL will enforce this new "rule", just as they don't really enforce any kind of dress code in the dining rooms - especially on elegant nights. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyFan33579 Posted December 18, 2019 #22 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Carnival has not enforced their own dress code in the MDR and speciality restaurants for years now. I would be very surprised if they actually enforced this new rule. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSHLOT Posted December 18, 2019 #23 Share Posted December 18, 2019 30 minutes ago, PhillyFan33579 said: Carnival has not enforced their own dress code in the MDR and speciality restaurants for years now. I would be very surprised if they actually enforced this new rule. I agree, It almost sounds like it's just a "formality" that they had to re-write the dress code. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachbum53 Posted December 18, 2019 #24 Share Posted December 18, 2019 As others have already said, creating a new rule or guideline is one thing. Enforcing it is another thing altogether. And, who's job will it be to tell a passenger that their t-shirt is not appropriate and that, because other passengers have complained, the "offensive" t-shirt cannot be worn? Someone from Housekeeping? Nope. Bar service? Probably not. MDR hostess or host? Maybe. Maitre D? Maybe. Cruise Director? Only if he / she can take time from their busy schedule to talk to the person with the offensive t-shirt. And, what if someone complains but nothing is done about it? Would that result in an argument between two passengers which could then turn into a violent confrontation? Posting this new dress code in the F.A.Q. section on Carnival's home page or in the cruise contract won't have much impact. Based on questions I've seen posted on here and / or Facebook, there are a lot of people that never read the F.A.Q. section or their cruise contract. This new dress code may appease some passengers, but will have very little effect (if any) on those who simply just don't give a rip. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elaine5715 Posted December 18, 2019 #25 Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 hour ago, beachbum53 said: As others have already said, creating a new rule or guideline is one thing. Enforcing it is another thing altogether. And, who's job will it be to tell a passenger that their t-shirt is not appropriate and that, because other passengers have complained, the "offensive" t-shirt cannot be worn? Someone from Housekeeping? Nope. Bar service? Probably not. MDR hostess or host? Maybe. Maitre D? Maybe. Cruise Director? Only if he / she can take time from their busy schedule to talk to the person with the offensive t-shirt. And, what if someone complains but nothing is done about it? Would that result in an argument between two passengers which could then turn into a violent confrontation? Posting this new dress code in the F.A.Q. section on Carnival's home page or in the cruise contract won't have much impact. Based on questions I've seen posted on here and / or Facebook, there are a lot of people that never read the F.A.Q. section or their cruise contract. This new dress code may appease some passengers, but will have very little effect (if any) on those who simply just don't give a rip. If it starts being known that the "offended" guest receives some sort of compensation to appease them, might as well call it a bounty. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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