fishin' musician Posted March 3, 2020 #176 Share Posted March 3, 2020 I'm thinking this ship will continue to limp along with adjusted itineraries until drydock time. As for the post stating the captain would not do the Atlantic crossing with the ship in its current state, I find it hard to believe a captain would make such a statement (at least to the public). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stive1 Posted March 3, 2020 #177 Share Posted March 3, 2020 Thanks for the post regarding the March 6th sailing. We are sailing on that date but we didn’t receive the email update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneall Posted March 3, 2020 #178 Share Posted March 3, 2020 I'm trying to calculate the impact of the speed issue on the Trans Atlantic route. If I'm interpreting the previous posts correctly, the loss of the generator will reduce the speed by 3 knots. From Wikipedia the maximum speed is 21.5 knots. Assuming they are planning on a speed of about 20 knots the first leg of the cruise to the Azores from Fort Lauderdale is 2,824 Nautical miles. At 20 knots, this would be 5 days 21 hours. At 17 knots, it would be 6 days and 22 hours. Let me know if you see any mistaken assumptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissP22 Posted March 3, 2020 #179 Share Posted March 3, 2020 26 minutes ago, goneall said: I'm trying to calculate the impact of the speed issue on the Trans Atlantic route. If I'm interpreting the previous posts correctly, the loss of the generator will reduce the speed by 3 knots. From Wikipedia the maximum speed is 21.5 knots. Assuming they are planning on a speed of about 20 knots the first leg of the cruise to the Azores from Fort Lauderdale is 2,824 Nautical miles. At 20 knots, this would be 5 days 21 hours. At 17 knots, it would be 6 days and 22 hours. Let me know if you see any mistaken assumptions. Don't about forget the wind & water currents. 😄LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dbld777 Posted March 3, 2020 #180 Share Posted March 3, 2020 59 minutes ago, goneall said: I'm trying to calculate the impact of the speed issue on the Trans Atlantic route. If I'm interpreting the previous posts correctly, the loss of the generator will reduce the speed by 3 knots. From Wikipedia the maximum speed is 21.5 knots. Assuming they are planning on a speed of about 20 knots the first leg of the cruise to the Azores from Fort Lauderdale is 2,824 Nautical miles. At 20 knots, this would be 5 days 21 hours. At 17 knots, it would be 6 days and 22 hours. Let me know if you see any mistaken assumptions. We were on the Crown in early Feb. and the max speed that the Captain spoke of, or we saw on the ship's info page, was 19 knots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shpur Posted March 3, 2020 #181 Share Posted March 3, 2020 I’d contact princess. I saw on this blog yesterday that it was fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutSyder Posted March 3, 2020 #182 Share Posted March 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, shpur said: I’d contact princess. I saw on this blog yesterday that it was fixed It's not fixed. I'm on the March 6th sailing and yesterday we got our notification that we will not go to Princess Cays as well our revised itinerary for the remaining ports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weedpindle Posted March 3, 2020 #183 Share Posted March 3, 2020 42 minutes ago, shpur said: I’d contact princess. I saw on this blog yesterday that it was fixed Not fixed. You should take comments with a grain of salt,. The itinerary for the Crown on 3-6-20 has been changed, Princess Cays is no longer a stop, which signifies that the issue is not fixed. If it is the same problem as affected the CB earlier, it will not be fixed until a part is made. The Crown will make the TA, and when it is ready to be fixed, will go into drydock in Spain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash123 Posted March 3, 2020 #184 Share Posted March 3, 2020 Just to let you know our friends who had booked an excursion on Princess Cays today received a credit back on their credit card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula B Posted March 3, 2020 #185 Share Posted March 3, 2020 I'm on the March 6th sailing and I'm hoping to get a e-mail from our TA or Princess soon. I know that the postings are saying that we will miss Princess Cays and get a OBC but I would like to see our revised itinerary for the remaining trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted March 3, 2020 #186 Share Posted March 3, 2020 2 hours ago, goneall said: I'm trying to calculate the impact of the speed issue on the Trans Atlantic route. If I'm interpreting the previous posts correctly, the loss of the generator will reduce the speed by 3 knots. From Wikipedia the maximum speed is 21.5 knots. Assuming they are planning on a speed of about 20 knots the first leg of the cruise to the Azores from Fort Lauderdale is 2,824 Nautical miles. At 20 knots, this would be 5 days 21 hours. At 17 knots, it would be 6 days and 22 hours. Let me know if you see any mistaken assumptions. The itinerary calls for 6d 16h for the transit FLL to Ponta Delgado. Back off 4 hours of time change, this is 6d 12h. A speed of 18-18.5 knots will do this time, just, with a little fudge thrown in for arrival and departure at slower speeds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted March 3, 2020 #187 Share Posted March 3, 2020 39 minutes ago, weedpindle said: Not fixed. You should take comments with a grain of salt,. The itinerary for the Crown on 3-6-20 has been changed, Princess Cays is no longer a stop, which signifies that the issue is not fixed. If it is the same problem as affected the CB earlier, it will not be fixed until a part is made. The Crown will make the TA, and when it is ready to be fixed, will go into drydock in Spain. There is no certainty that a "drydock" is required to repair this, so it could be done with only a day's downtime, perhaps, to insert the part into the ship (if access cutting of the hull is needed), at any port, and the rest of the repair done in service. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare CineGraphic Posted March 3, 2020 #188 Share Posted March 3, 2020 20 minutes ago, Paula B said: I'm on the March 6th sailing and I'm hoping to get a e-mail from our TA or Princess soon. I know that the postings are saying that we will miss Princess Cays and get a OBC but I would like to see our revised itinerary for the remaining trip. The revised itinerary and arrival/departure times can be found in your cruise details here: https://www.princess.com/cruise-search/details?voyageCode=3008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shpur Posted March 3, 2020 #189 Share Posted March 3, 2020 Call princess. I read the issue was fixed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash123 Posted March 3, 2020 #190 Share Posted March 3, 2020 1 hour ago, shpur said: Call princess. I read the issue was fixed If you look on Princess web site and look up the 6th March cruise you will now see they taken Princess Says of the itinerary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelers36 Posted March 3, 2020 #191 Share Posted March 3, 2020 4 hours ago, chengkp75 said: There is no certainty that a "drydock" is required to repair this, so it could be done with only a day's downtime, perhaps, to insert the part into the ship (if access cutting of the hull is needed), at any port, and the rest of the repair done in service. Assuming you are correct, do you think the delay in repairs is perhaps due to needing special manufacturer order for parts or a whole new generator and they just have to wait for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula B Posted March 3, 2020 #192 Share Posted March 3, 2020 Thanks you for the info! I see they changed Barbados and St. Lucia on different days. We have a private tour in st. Lucia so hopefully I can get that changed. Thanks agains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo222 Posted March 4, 2020 #193 Share Posted March 4, 2020 15 hours ago, shpur said: I’d contact princess. I saw on this blog yesterday that it was fixed Earlier in this thread, a poster called princess... https://boards.cruisecritic.com/topic/2723879-crown-princess-speed-issues/?do=findComment&comment=59503503 What speed issues? I think some phone answerer at Princess is unlikely to give an accurate answer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted March 4, 2020 #194 Share Posted March 4, 2020 11 hours ago, Steelers36 said: Assuming you are correct, do you think the delay in repairs is perhaps due to needing special manufacturer order for parts or a whole new generator and they just have to wait for it? My guess is that it is something major like a crankshaft or even an air cooler that are normally not stocked by the manufacturers, but produced to order. It is extremely rare that an entire engine or generator would be installed. I can actually think of only one case, the Oasis, which had an engine replaced by dropping it out the bottom of the ship in drydock, but that was a warranty replacement at the engine manufacturer's cost. Even the engine failure on the Carnival Splendor that caused the fire and blackout there, and which sent connecting rods flying around the engine was repaired using the same engine block, and just installing new parts. A few ships lately, one NCL and one HAL if I remember right, have renewed crankshafts, and this required a hole to be cut in the hull, above the waterline, to get it in the ship due to its length. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GonzoWCS Posted March 4, 2020 #195 Share Posted March 4, 2020 18 hours ago, chengkp75 said: The itinerary calls for 6d 16h for the transit FLL to Ponta Delgado. Back off 4 hours of time change, this is 6d 12h. A speed of 18-18.5 knots will do this time, just, with a little fudge thrown in for arrival and departure at slower speeds. Thanks for staying engaged on this thread and providing math! Cheers Steve & Vicky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrylinden Posted March 4, 2020 #196 Share Posted March 4, 2020 The March 16th sailing has the Princess Cays port day still on there! My son and wife will be on that sailing! No changes so far on that sailing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishin' musician Posted March 4, 2020 #197 Share Posted March 4, 2020 33 minutes ago, Harrylinden said: The March 16th sailing has the Princess Cays port day still on there! My son and wife will be on that sailing! No changes so far on that sailing! Place your bets... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GonzoWCS Posted March 4, 2020 #198 Share Posted March 4, 2020 8 minutes ago, fishin' musician said: Place your bets... $20 on OBC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voljeep Posted March 4, 2020 #199 Share Posted March 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, fishin' musician said: Place your bets... Place it on Lucky Dan ? Place, not to win !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissP22 Posted March 4, 2020 #200 Share Posted March 4, 2020 49 minutes ago, Harrylinden said: The March 16th sailing has the Princess Cays port day still on there! My son and wife will be on that sailing! No changes so far on that sailing! Wait until next Mon or Tues. There might be a change yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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