Wehwalt Posted March 26, 2020 #326 Share Posted March 26, 2020 As of 6 pm EDT per my app: Zaandam 4.68 N, 80.84 W Rotterdam 6.30 N, 81.84 W 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voyageur9 Posted March 26, 2020 #327 Share Posted March 26, 2020 16 minutes ago, Wehwalt said: As of 6 pm EDT per my app: Zaandam 4.68 N, 80.84 W Rotterdam 6.30 N, 81.84 W that's 114 nm apart. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil09 Posted March 26, 2020 #328 Share Posted March 26, 2020 (edited) Nice tool to calculate distance between two points using latitude/longitude position. https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gccalc.shtml Old school would be a proper nautical chart and a set of dividers! Thanks for the position reports. Edited March 26, 2020 by phil09 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dockman Posted March 26, 2020 #329 Share Posted March 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Cruzaholic41 said: Exactly. When people die on cruise ships, it is not announced to the rest of the passengers, so reports from current passengers saying they heard nothing are totally irrelevant. In fact, the crew is probably under orders not to say anything. Same goes for numbers of sick. Why would the ship create more panic by announcing a steady increase in the numbers? May be "irrelevant" to you but then you are not on the ship sitting in your room 24/7 watching horrible reports from around the world and wondering what may be happening to the Zaandam passengers and crew. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wehwalt Posted March 26, 2020 #330 Share Posted March 26, 2020 As of 7:00 pm EDT, per the Navigator app: Zaandam 4.98 N 80.91 W Rotterdam 6.06 N 81.54 W Distance (thanks Phil09) 75 nmi 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruzaholic41 Posted March 26, 2020 #331 Share Posted March 26, 2020 1 hour ago, LMaxwell said: I thought that was required by law? I meant to the passengers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wehwalt Posted March 27, 2020 #332 Share Posted March 27, 2020 (edited) As of 8:00 pm EDT, per the Navigator app: Zaandam 5.28 N 80.99 W Rotterdam 5.79 N 81.27 W Distance (thanks Phil09) 35 nmi Edited March 27, 2020 by Wehwalt 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sansterre Posted March 27, 2020 #333 Share Posted March 27, 2020 (edited) 35 mmi - thanks Wewalt! The two ships should be able to see each other now, if it is still a clear day. I am stressing and underlining the word "day". Did we ever determine how the test results can be determined? Even in emergencies, results seem to take overnight at only a few select places here in Florida. I do hope the Panama Canal transit is possible. If not, it seems destination will be San Diego, following the arrivals of Westerdam and Maasdam there. Edited March 27, 2020 by sansterre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max2003 Posted March 27, 2020 #334 Share Posted March 27, 2020 (edited) Edited March 27, 2020 by Max2003 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV8rix Posted March 27, 2020 #335 Share Posted March 27, 2020 9 minutes ago, Max2003 said: And, according to my GPS distance calculator, they are only about 32 NM apart right now!!! YAY!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare rafinmd Posted March 27, 2020 #336 Share Posted March 27, 2020 The positions I'm getting on Marine Traffic are reported "34 minutes ago". Roy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiserBruce Posted March 27, 2020 #337 Share Posted March 27, 2020 26 minutes ago, sansterre said: 35 mmi - thanks Wewalt! The two ships should be able to see each other now, if it is still a clear day. I am stressing and underlining the word "day". I don't think so. The visibility from the Bridge should be about 20 miles, assuming clear air and daylight. Note: 35 NMi equals about 40 statute miles. See this explanation:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horizon 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted March 27, 2020 #338 Share Posted March 27, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, ducklite said: I could be wrong, but I believe that they are way outside the jurisdictional waters of the USCG. Yes and no. While a foreign flagged ship on the high seas may be outside the law enforcement jurisdiction of the CG, it isn't outside the humanitarian jurisdiction. In the manner the CG and other U.S. military branches aided the Carnival Triumph and the Carnival Splendor, they could very well aid the Zaandam. The problem is logistics and location. Equipping another HAL ship (Rotterdam) with relief supplies makes sense logistically until Zaandam is able to get to an area where U.S. assets might exist. Edited March 27, 2020 by Aquahound 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashmeremypuppydog Posted March 27, 2020 #339 Share Posted March 27, 2020 She/he just sent me 2 photos of the Zandaam getting very close to the Rotterdam.20200326_180738.heic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted March 27, 2020 #340 Share Posted March 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, cat shepard said: Ok. The Zaandam passengers who are not sick have been quarantined for 14 days, right? No, 5 days. And the number of sick onboard has tripled in those 5 days 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viajante74 Posted March 27, 2020 #341 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Yeah, lots of speculation on this thread. I am ON the Zaandam. There will be NO transfer of passengers to the Rotterdam. The Rotterdam is delivering medical supplies (masks, testing kits, etc) and much needed medical staff. That is all. 20 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFD1 Posted March 27, 2020 #342 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Thank you for bringing some sanity to this thread. Good Luck to all of you. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashmeremypuppydog Posted March 27, 2020 #343 Share Posted March 27, 2020 1 minute ago, viajante74 said: Yeah, lots of speculation on this thread. I am ON the Zaandam. There will be NO transfer of passengers to the Rotterdam. The Rotterdam is delivering medical supplies (masks, testing kits, etc) and much needed medical staff. That is all. I am VERY glad to hear that. I really sympathize with you and I am glad The Zandaam is getting medical supplies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cat shepard Posted March 27, 2020 #344 Share Posted March 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, viajante74 said: Yeah, lots of speculation on this thread. I am ON the Zaandam. There will be NO transfer of passengers to the Rotterdam. The Rotterdam is delivering medical supplies (masks, testing kits, etc) and much needed medical staff. That is all. Thank you. Stay well, and speedy & safe trip home. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruisemom42 Posted March 27, 2020 #345 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Given that passengers and likely crew onboard the Zaandam (and Rotterdam) are reading this thread, I think everyone should exercise some caution and calm. We don't need to jump to reckless conclusions. Take a deep breath and corroborate, corroborate, corroborate. 11 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFD1 Posted March 27, 2020 #346 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Cruise Ship Tracker shows the two ships almost alongside. It will be interesting to see how long the transfer operation takes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAllenTCY Posted March 27, 2020 #347 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Neat photo in any case. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max2003 Posted March 27, 2020 #348 Share Posted March 27, 2020 1 minute ago, DFD1 said: Cruise Ship Tracker shows the two ships almost alongside. It will be interesting to see how long the transfer operation takes. And which way they go after the transfer. We will know if they got transit approval from the canal. It looks like mission accomplished at any rate! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFD1 Posted March 27, 2020 #349 Share Posted March 27, 2020 From what I can see, it appears they are still together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old mike Posted March 27, 2020 #350 Share Posted March 27, 2020 8 minutes ago, viajante74 said: Yeah, lots of speculation on this thread. I am ON the Zaandam. There will be NO transfer of passengers to the Rotterdam. The Rotterdam is delivering medical supplies (masks, testing kits, etc) and much needed medical staff. That is all. Thank you for being a voice of reason, the speculation on this thread is beyond reason and I would think it is embarassing to the vast majority of members here. I hope you stay well and have a safe journey home, via whatever transpires over the next few days. Stay safe. best wishes. 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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