Rare LMaxwell Posted March 31, 2020 #1426 Share Posted March 31, 2020 The Dr. made an impassioned plea and when it came to the plan she took her foot off the gas and said she guesses Carnival can handle it. Appreciate her perspective and nice speech from the heart but no substance. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted March 31, 2020 #1427 Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Aquahound said: She makes good points and I mostly agree with her, but she also said FLL is where the ship was supposed to end it's cruise. I think she might have been misinformed in that regard. If you're referring to Zaandam, she actually did, on 07 Apr. Unless I misunderstood you Zaandam 3/6/2020 Fri BUENOS AIRES Zaandam 3/7/2020 Sat BUENOS AIRES Zaandam 3/8/2020 Sun Buenos Aires Zaandam 3/9/2020 Mon Montevideo Zaandam 3/10/2020 Tue At Sea (South Atlantic Ocean) Zaandam 3/11/2020 Wed At Sea Zaandam 3/12/2020 Thu Port Stanley Zaandam 3/13/2020 Fri Scenic cruising Strait of Magellan Zaandam 3/14/2020 Sat Punta Arenas Zaandam 3/15/2020 Sun Ushuaia Zaandam 3/16/2020 Mon Scenic cruising Cape Horn Zaandam 3/17/2020 Tue Scenic cruising Sarmiento Channel Zaandam 3/18/2020 Wed Scenic cruising Chilean Fjords Zaandam 3/19/2020 Thu Puerto Montt Zaandam 3/20/2020 Fri At Sea (South Pacific Ocean) Zaandam 3/21/2020 Sat SAN ANTONIO (SANTIAGO) Zaandam 3/22/2020 Sun Coquimbo (La Serena) Zaandam 3/23/2020 Mon At Sea (Pacific Ocean) Zaandam 3/24/2020 Tue At Sea Zaandam 3/25/2020 Wed Callao (Lima) Zaandam 3/26/2020 Thu Callao (Lima) Zaandam 3/27/2020 Fri Salaverry (Trujillo) Zaandam 3/28/2020 Sat At Sea (Pacific Ocean) Zaandam 3/29/2020 Sun Manta (Quito) Zaandam 3/30/2020 Mon At Sea (Pacific Ocean) Zaandam 3/31/2020 Tue Fuerte Amador (Panama City) Zaandam 4/1/2020 Wed Fuerte Amador (Panama City) Zaandam 4/2/2020 Thu At Sea (Caribbean Sea) Zaandam 4/3/2020 Fri Oranjestad Zaandam 4/4/2020 Sat At Sea (Caribbean Sea) Zaandam 4/5/2020 Sun At Sea Zaandam 4/6/2020 Mon Half Moon Cay Zaandam 4/7/2020 Tue FORT LAUDERDALE, FL 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted March 31, 2020 #1428 Share Posted March 31, 2020 "Aren't we all just waiting for a plan and when that plan is submitted we can discuss it?" "Yes" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymich Posted March 31, 2020 #1429 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Earlier the Carnival Rep did say he did not have a complete plan because he needed the results of this meeting to finish the plan. Maybe now he can go back now finish the plan and get these people off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajkr74 Posted March 31, 2020 #1430 Share Posted March 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, Copper10-8 said: Kudos to that Commissioner, Dr. Barbara Sharief! That's a commissioner I'd vote for at a drop of a hat!! Great comments from her! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Vict0riann Posted March 31, 2020 #1431 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Another one for the removal of passengers from the ships. Yay! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermeulT Posted March 31, 2020 #1432 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Just now, rajkr74 said: That's a commissioner I'd vote for at a drop of a hat!! Great comments from her! And the last lady. Nancy (?). "We're their last hope" 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted March 31, 2020 #1433 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Just now, Nymich said: Earlier the Carnival Rep did say he did not have a complete plan because he needed the results of this meeting to finish the plan. Maybe now he can go back now finish the plan and get these people off. The cruise line has to submit the plan that meets the requirements as published yesterday and addresses questions of today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted March 31, 2020 #1434 Share Posted March 31, 2020 My apologies, Copper10-8. I didn't know it was supposed to end in FL. Was that itinerary all 1 cruise, or inclusive of multiple segments? For some reason, I though it was supposed to conclude in Chili. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccio Posted March 31, 2020 #1435 Share Posted March 31, 2020 8 minutes ago, FlorenceItaly said: Unfortunately, Coral Princess is having issues too. just announced flu like cases. See the last page of the thread. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minne Wonka Girl Posted March 31, 2020 #1436 Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 minute ago, VermeulT said: And the last lady. Nancy (?). "We're their last hope" As a Broward resident, I emailed her to thank her. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Vict0riann Posted March 31, 2020 #1437 Share Posted March 31, 2020 "We need to keep the port open." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymich Posted March 31, 2020 #1438 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Just now, Vict0riann said: "We need to keep the port open." Agreed. Nobody wants anymore people stranded at Sea we all have enough to deal with on land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Vict0riann Posted March 31, 2020 #1439 Share Posted March 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, VermeulT said: And the last lady. Nancy (?). "We're their last hope" I think that was Commissioner Rich? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Vict0riann Posted March 31, 2020 #1440 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Just now, Nymich said: Agreed. Nobody wants anymore people stranded at Sea we all have enough to deal with on land. And he was saying that all the ships "parked" at sea need to come in to re-provision and refuel. Which is a very valid point. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted March 31, 2020 #1441 Share Posted March 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Aquahound said: My apologies, Copper10-8. I didn't know it was supposed to end in FL. Was that itinerary all 1 cruise, or inclusive of multiple segments? For some reason, I though it was supposed to conclude in Chili. Please, no apologies required! It included a total of two itineraries/segments 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted March 31, 2020 #1442 Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) Port Director Wiltshire caught blindsided by Crown Princess; as was CDC and US Coast Guard. Ship ordered out of port. Violation of Federal Law. Carnival Rep "My phone is out of juice"; trying to justify the actions by saying the ships haven't left US territorial waters and so did not need to provide an update. LOOK - WE ALL want the same thing; people to get home, safely. CREW INCLUDED. The plan has to come from Carnival Corp and that is what is lacking. Create plan Make it actionable EXECUTE Edited March 31, 2020 by LMaxwell 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sansterre Posted March 31, 2020 #1443 Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) Commissioners Sherief and Commissioner Rich, two smart women saying all the passengers want to do is go home. Yes! Unless they live in Broward/Dade area, they want to get away from that center of Covid-19 activity. I will campaign for them if they run for re-elecitons! It really isn't that complicated, is it? Crown Princess - isn't that the one that is due April 4? Did it just leave this morning? I hope that doesn't negatively affect the HAL ships. Edited March 31, 2020 by sansterre 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted March 31, 2020 #1444 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Btw, Crown Princess is still in port, according to Admiral Burke (ret), she has another crew member is serious condition, waiting for a 2nd medevac https://www.ftlauderdalewebcam.com/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted March 31, 2020 #1445 Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) Is Commissioner Bogen calling out the Carnival Rep directly? edit: Yes. Diplomatically, but yes. Edited March 31, 2020 by LMaxwell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max2003 Posted March 31, 2020 #1446 Share Posted March 31, 2020 30 minutes ago, Copper10-8 said: I don't think they've made a decision as of yet. The Broward County Sheriff is referring to it in his comments. Btw, he's is running out of collar space for his rank insignia/amount of stars I get the impression that they expect a salute. Fortunately, I am always uncovered and can't. When they get to 6 stars the military will have to up their game. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosaic Posted March 31, 2020 #1447 Share Posted March 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, LMaxwell said: Port Director Wiltshire caught blindsided by Crown Princess; as was CDC and US Coast Guard. Ship ordered out of port. Violation of Federal Law. Carnival Rep "My phone is out of juice"; trying to justify the actions by saying the ships haven't left US territorial waters and so did not need to provide an update. LOOK - WE ALL want the same thing; people to get home, safely. CREW INCLUDED. The plan has to come from Carnival Corp and that is what is lacking. Create plan Make it actionable EXECUTE Yes, a full plan is needed. I do not believe, however, that we all want the same thing... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted March 31, 2020 #1448 Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Mosaic said: Yes, a full plan is needed. I do not believe, however, that we all want the same thing... How could anyone want anything different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Vict0riann Posted March 31, 2020 #1449 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Waffling... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymich Posted March 31, 2020 #1450 Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Mosaic said: Yes, a full plan is needed. I do not believe, however, that we all want the same thing... I could never think that everyone does not want them all off safely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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