Zaandam and Rotterdam Situation (merged topics starting March 22, 2020)

[Nymich]

Just now, Vict0riann said:

Waffling...

It's just Government.......making sausage.   It will happen we still need the final plan from CCL

[DaveRRT]

need to know the rules to make a plan

[Copper10-8]

Commissioner Bogen just doesn't get it - the majority of those ships have been at anchor for some time

[Nymich]

Just now, DaveRRT said:

need to know the rules to make a plan

Good point and he is getting the rules right now.

[css5]

1 minute ago, Copper10-8 said:

Commissioner Bogen just doesn't get it - the majority of those ships have been at anchor for some time

I know...they even said those ships were just rotating in and out for provisions. No passengers.

[cat shepard]

Anyone know when the Rotterdam took over the lead position? I guess I am a bit behind in posts.

 

 

[Copper10-8]

A mayor and a vice-mayor for a county; is that common? 

[Cruise Suzy]

1 minute ago, Copper10-8 said:

A mayor and a vice-mayor for a county; is that common?

 

Yes, in Florida it is.

[Copper10-8]

So the bottom line; Zaandam and Rotterdam are scheduled off FLL on Thursday and they're waiting for a vote until the County Attorney has drafted a plan/contract that they can sign off on along with "several other entities that comprise the unified command"

[Vict0riann]

3 minutes ago, Copper10-8 said:

So the bottom line; Zaandam and Rotterdam are scheduled off FLL on Thursday and they're waiting for a vote until the County Attorney has drafted a plan/contract that they can sign off on along with "several other entities that comprise the unified command"

And they want a unanimous vote?

 

Sounds like they are going to wait for Thursday morning to vote.

Edited March 31, 2020 by Vict0riann

[Copper10-8]

Just now, Vict0riann said:

And they want a unanimous vote?

 

Usually, stuff like that requires a majority vote

[StLouisCruisers]

Leave it until the last second, then expect chartered planes to be ready Thursday afternoon.   Right...

[Nymich]

I give the Commissioners a ton of credit.  I do not know of any other port in the world who lined up to help.

 

While Florida has been bashed all over the place on this thread you may want to ask yourself has the port closest to me offered to help?

[Copper10-8]

Sounds like the mayor has a tiny bit of a Jamaican accent

[ajstahle]

The meeting just ended, but I missed most of the discussion.  Got a feeling they agreed to let the ships come in?

 

[Copper10-8]

And we're done; the ball is in the hands of the Broward County Attorney and his staff to come up with the guidelines

[Vict0riann]

Just now, ajstahle said:

The meeting just ended, but I missed most of the discussion.  Got a feeling they agreed to let the ships come in?

 

Nope.

[Copper10-8]

1 minute ago, ajstahle said:

The meeting just ended, but I missed most of the discussion.  Got a feeling they agreed to let the ships come in?

 

 

Not yet, more work to do

[DFD1]

They did not, but they will. They just want the cover of an attorney prepared contract/plan to which the parties agree.

[DFD1]

Do not lose hope. The meeting could have gone a lot worse.

[DaveSJ711]

1 minute ago, DFD1 said:

They did not, but they will. They just want the cover of an attorney prepared contract/plan to which the parties agree.

 

The can has indeed been kicked to an attorney.  As a lawyer myself, I've seen this scenario play out dozens and dozens of times.

[bluesea321]

I listened to essentially all of the Broward County meeting and in summary they deferred action on the HAL ships until Thursday morning.  The so called Unified Command will have to "agree" on what's next.  The ships may be offshore FLL on Thursday but it seems unlikely that they will disembark pax/crew then.

[Vict0riann]

1 minute ago, bluesea321 said:

I listened to essentially all of the Broward County meeting and in summary they deferred action on the HAL ships until Thursday morning.  The so called Unified Command will have to "agree" on what's next.  The ships may be offshore FLL on Thursday but it seems unlikely that they will disembark pax/crew then.

And then other countries will have to have time to organize charter flights to take their countrymen home.

[DFD1]

I think it is evident from the tone of the meeting that the commission wants to make this happen. However, they have some time and they want to use that time to create a situation that takes away most, if not all, of the political risk.

The way to do that is turn it over to the attorney.

 

Nothing new about this.....after all, they are politicians.

[capriccio]

The Sun-Sentinel just posted their meeting write-up online and have lifted the paywall.

Edited March 31, 2020 by capriccio