rkacruiser Posted April 1, 2020 #1851 Share Posted April 1, 2020 1 hour ago, someguyfl said: I think the better question is, for the purposes of the frequent cruiser program, do any additional nights stuck on the boat "count" towards elite status? Thank you for your post.😀 Days at sea do count, usually, for the Medallion program as well as for an invitation to the President's Club, I believe. For those guests who may want to quibble: do these unpaid sea days count or not. I doubt that very many, if any, on Zaandam or Rotterdam will want to pursue this question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkacruiser Posted April 1, 2020 #1852 Share Posted April 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, YXU AC*SE said: I have on good authority (okay mostly-shaky-all-y'all-shouldn't-listen-to-me personal authority) that Crown Royal is internally applied hand sanitizer. #gowashyourhands. 🙂 Scott. Is it acceptable that I substitute Canadian Club for Crown Royal? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YXU AC*SE Posted April 1, 2020 #1853 Share Posted April 1, 2020 1 minute ago, rkacruiser said: Is it acceptable that I substitute Canadian Club for Crown Royal? If one must (said witheringly). 🙂 I'd double up just to be sure. Scott. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare hcat Posted April 1, 2020 #1854 Share Posted April 1, 2020 (edited) Thanks to Anne for posting the contact e mails. I sent my e mails..as a Fla taxpayer and frequent Fla cruiser, asking that they let the ships dock in PEv on humanitarian grounds. The Cruise line should have cancelled the trip. The Pax should not have gone......but now people are reaching out for a humanitarian life preserver. They should not be denied! The Coast Guard memo was scary! Edited April 1, 2020 by hcat 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdwise Posted April 1, 2020 #1855 Share Posted April 1, 2020 4 hours ago, Max2003 said: We saw the sail by at St Andres yesterday. I thought it was strange at the time. I assume it would be dicey transferring from one ventilator to another, unless they were going to leave the HAL ventilator. This will be an incredible story of effort when it is all told! According to USA Today article they have two transfer ventilators onboard to be able to move a ventilator dependent patient from one facility to another. I wonder if they were able to bring Redmisver or the other drugs being used to decrease severity of covaid 19 or Thermuflu and other antivirals for pneumonia as part of the medical supplies Rotterdam brought. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueRiband Posted April 1, 2020 #1856 Share Posted April 1, 2020 According to Business Insider, President Trump is pressing Governer DeSantis to accept the ship: Trump calls for 2 stranded Holland America cruise ships to be able to dock... in Florida 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JVilleGal Posted April 1, 2020 #1857 Share Posted April 1, 2020 (edited) Couple minutes ago moving up the Florida Keys. Zaandam and Rotterdam side by side or so it appears and moving fast! note: Sky Princess is the Blue ship just in front on them Edited April 1, 2020 by JVilleGal 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reader0108598 Posted April 1, 2020 #1858 Share Posted April 1, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, hcat said: Sent my e mails..as a Fla taxpayer and frequent Fla cruiser, asking that they let the ships dock in PEv on humanitarian grounds. Cruiseline should have cancelled the trip. Pax should not have gone. But now people are reaching out for a humanitarian life preserver. They should not be denied! The Coast Guard memo was scary! Agree 100 Percent! Although we can't leave them out there ! Edited April 2, 2020 by Reader0108598 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MmmMango Posted April 1, 2020 #1859 Share Posted April 1, 2020 9 minutes ago, rkacruiser said: Yes. So what? Social distancing can still be implemented. Pardon me, I wasn't meaning anything adverse by stating this. Just reflecting on past visits and remembering the problems experienced by passengers less mobile than myself; the perils of swells where transferral of passenger to tender and tender to ship can result in mishaps, none of which they can afford to treat in addition to their present overload. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cat shepard Posted April 2, 2020 #1860 Share Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Niagarawine said: For the Canadians on board, 237 of them , when 9/11 happened do you Americans remember what happened ? The planes landed in Newfoundland and we fed and cared for you. Yes, we do. One of the many reasons I am appalled at this situation. I realize that this situation is different, but both situations are/were complex and dangerous. I am forever grateful to your Country & its citizens. You will always be my neighbor to the North. Stay well. Edited April 2, 2020 by cat shepard 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketMan275 Posted April 2, 2020 #1861 Share Posted April 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Sue from Canada said: Let them dock at Half Moon Cay so the passengers can at least get off, stretch their legs, enjoy the sun, go for a swim etc. And of course try to maintain social distancing. Not much medical support there. No airports so they can return home. Doesn't work at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YXU AC*SE Posted April 2, 2020 #1862 Share Posted April 2, 2020 1 hour ago, YXU AC*SE said: I guess we can't rewrite 'Come From Away', can we .... ? Scott. Spotify link to the soundtrack (for the uninitiated) --> https://open spotify com/album/6SisHkIpxo4JN5kRcBEv9Z (insert periods) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MmmMango Posted April 2, 2020 #1863 Share Posted April 2, 2020 How is it ethical to deny entry, anywhere in this case? Do they deny entry in good times? Of course not! Hands are feverishly rubbed together at the calculation of the amount of money to be made when a cruise ship of any registry is scheduled to dock at a port. Where are those same hands when things are less than stellar? This is a bad marriage; there is no "in sickness and in health" reciprocating arrangement. I equate people in containment here to being lashed to trees and left in the woods to await the wolves to take them down one at a time. I wonder if there is some lawyer out there that would entertain a class-action lawsuit to these people basically being held hostage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruising sister Posted April 2, 2020 #1864 Share Posted April 2, 2020 5 hours ago, Homosassa said: Put the pressure on who? We have no decisive leadership in Florida that is willing to firmly put in place state wide restrictions but instead leaves it up to the "locals." Southeast Florida is currently a hot spot with insufficient medical supplies for the local population. Perhaps the OP could speak to his neighbors and volunteer his home locale as a quarantine site. As long as planes are landing with no control over what is on them Florida is at risk. Taking a known quantity and getting them off and to a safe place is better than letting them get sick and die on the ship. I am appalled at how people think. I am a frontline medical worker and know the risks daily and still go to work. These are human beings who were happy cruisers like we all were and are caught up in an awful situation. I personally experience insufficient supplies and still do my job everyday. I would be happy to help them. 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himself Posted April 2, 2020 #1865 Share Posted April 2, 2020 I heard the President in his daily report and I think arms will be twisted. He wants Port Everglades to accept the ship and disembark healthy passengers. He also wants doctors to go on board and care for the sick on the Zaandam. He has compassion for the passengers. 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himself Posted April 2, 2020 #1866 Share Posted April 2, 2020 President Trump believes the ships should be welcomed for humanitarian reasons. God Bless President Trump. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesea321 Posted April 2, 2020 #1867 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Looks like Broward County is still not in agreement with the cruise line but negotiations continue, no doubt. https://www.local10.com/news/local/2020/04/01/officials-reject-carnivals-entry-plan-for-2-ships-to-come-to-port-everglades/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YXU AC*SE Posted April 2, 2020 #1868 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Current position ~30 nm south of Tavernier, FL (US1 Mile Marker 88) and making +20 knots NE (44.5 deg) Scott. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdnycruiser Posted April 2, 2020 #1869 Share Posted April 2, 2020 For the first time in my life I’m ashamed of my state of Florida. This is appalling and unforgivable. As a cruiser, there I go but of the grace of God. I’ve registered my displeasure with the Governors office. No excuse for this lack of humanity and compassion . So, so sad. My heart and prayers go out to all those on board, as well as their families . Sent from my iPhone using Forums 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himself Posted April 2, 2020 #1870 Share Posted April 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, bluesea321 said: Looks like Broward County is still not in agreement with the cruise line but negotiations continue, no doubt. https://www.local10.com/news/local/2020/04/01/officials-reject-carnivals-entry-plan-for-2-ships-to-come-to-port-everglades/ The PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES wants the ships to dock. I think Governor DeSantis will bend and over rule the Broward Cuunty will have to allow it. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesea321 Posted April 2, 2020 #1871 Share Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) I don't know what the outcome will be, of course, but I hope: 1) that a plan gets put in place to take care of the ill pax/crew and 2) that those so called "healthy" are not allowed to disembark and go on like normal. According to Dr. Fauci (the only one of the "crew" I trust) about 25% of asymptomatic people are contagious. The ill need to be taken to a proper medical facility and the "healthy/asymptomatic" need to be quarantined for 14 days. This is what I think we should avoid: "You were indeed very lucky to avoid the covid-19. More than 40% of corona deaths here in Australia have been from the cruise ships. Mostly from Ruby and now over 440 positive cases have been related to the Ruby.The next wave will be of those in contact with these passengers. Everyone in the whole country is in home isolation and any returning from overseas by air or sea are now being housed in city hotels or a couple of islands under guard. Hopefully this may help to minimize the spread here." https://boards.cruisecritic.com/topic/2743278-ruby-princess-march-8-new-zealand-cruise-review/ Edited April 2, 2020 by bluesea321 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdnycruiser Posted April 2, 2020 #1872 Share Posted April 2, 2020 For the Canadians on board, 237 of them , when 9/11 happened do you Americans remember what happened ? The planes landed in Newfoundland and we fed and cared for you.Yes, I do remember that as if it was yesterday. I also remember back to the hostage situation in Iran back in 76 when the Canadian embassy helped us getting Americans out. As anAmerican, I’m so embarrassed by how this has been handled. I was a first responder on 9/11. One of my memories is of those that volunteered, and put themselves in harms way to help and support us. This is the America that I know and love. Where is this spirit today ? Sent from my iPhone using Forums 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymich Posted April 2, 2020 #1873 Share Posted April 2, 2020 7 minutes ago, fdnycruiser said: For the first time in my life I’m ashamed of my state of Florida. This is appalling and unforgivable. As a cruiser, there I go but of the grace of God. I’ve registered my displeasure with the Governors office. No excuse for this lack of humanity and compassion . So, so sad. My heart and prayers go out to all those on board, as well as their families . Sent from my iPhone using Forums You are ashamed of the Broward County Commissioners who met yesterday and a few who made passionate pleas to bring the people in? I am proud of them and trust they will! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkacruiser Posted April 2, 2020 #1874 Share Posted April 2, 2020 15 minutes ago, Himself said: President Trump believes the ships should be welcomed for humanitarian reasons. God Bless President Trump. Is it appropriate for me to say that I think God has been finally successful in getting the message to his brain that he ought to trust what his God given intellect is telling him and not his "gut" as he makes decisions? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdwise Posted April 2, 2020 #1875 Share Posted April 2, 2020 54 minutes ago, hcat said: Thanks to Anne for posting the contact e mails. I sent my e mails..as a Fla taxpayer and frequent Fla cruiser, asking that they let the ships dock I too sent emails. Though not a Florida resident at this time (former resident with friends urging us to move to join them) we have taken plenty of cruises through Ft Lauderdale and Miam as well as other vacations family visits there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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