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When I cruised in March on the Breeze, on the last cruise before the covid shut down, it was a pretty full ship.  They had a carnival employee standing at every line in the buffet.  Before you got a plate, you had to use the hand sanitizer.  They would serve everything.  It was fine. maybe a little slower.  They served all the deserts and ice creams.  There was always someone manning the ice cream machine and usually a long line.  In the dining room they would disinfect the menus after taking your order.  No more carafes of water on the tables or salt and pepper.   In the buffet you still get your own water, lemonade, juice, coffee, etc.  The comedy club was packed to capacity each night as was the casino.  I cant wait to see how they will manage the social distancing.

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we decided, smart decision, to do the Breeze winter break 2019 instead of spring break 2020.  

 

the pool decks were packed as were the dining rooms. how do you social distance on the pool decks casinos and dining rooms? 

 

so happy we cruised in December and not waited till April.  phew. 

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On 4/23/2020 at 2:04 PM, MsTabbyKats said:

Can do it....can certainly do it.

It's called "changing the rules".

 


MsTabbyKats - exactly. 
 

    Of course, there's a segment of society that thinks it's above rules (or at least rules that it doesn't like). We see them draped in flag, screeching in the faces of nurses and police.

 

     This will make it "interesting" for ship Security workers of cruising reopens while distancing is still necessary. Many, many cruisers won't accept the risk for being onboard for days and days amidst people who refuse to wear masks.

      Yet you can easily imagine 20 or 50 - or 1,500 ??? - on any cruise ripping off the mask before the embarkation lunch and loudly declaring they won't put it back until luggage pickup at the end of the trip.

     

       Regardless of which side "wins,"

Security and the Guest Services Desk will not be fun jobs to work.

   

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7 minutes ago, EscapeFromConnecticut said:


MsTabbyKats - exactly. 
 

    Of course, there's a segment of society that thinks it's above rules (or at least rules that it doesn't like). We see them draped in flag, screeching in the faces of nurses and police.

 

     This will make it "interesting" for ship Security workers of cruising reopens while distancing is still necessary. Many, many cruisers won't accept the risk for being onboard for days and days amidst people who refuse to wear masks.

      Yet you can easily imagine 20 or 50 - or 1,500 ??? - on any cruise ripping off the mask before the embarkation lunch and loudly declaring they won't put it back until luggage pickup at the end of the trip.

     

       Regardless of which side "wins,"

Security and the Guest Services Desk will not be fun jobs to work.

   

I really believe that before people get to caught up in 'side' they really ought to do some research into both the virus size, (relating to pass through ability) and the actual science involved with the masks. They are not as effective as 'common knowledge' would lead you to believe.

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Another thing that will be different:

 

I'm a big fan of B'way and theatre in general.  Someone pointed out how it may be a long long long time till they come back because the actors/singers/dancers have to be in close physical contact as well as almost spitting into each others mouths when they need to project, the dressing rooms are tiny and the orchestra pit (I know...doesn't apply to Carnival) is really crowded.   This would be in addition to limited capacity in the theatre . 

 

The same holds true on a cruise ship....so I don't see "main productions" happening.  There's gonna be more jugglers, comedians and magicians....one person acts.

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28 minutes ago, MsTabbyKats said:

Another thing that will be different:

 

I'm a big fan of B'way and theatre in general.  Someone pointed out how it may be a long long long time till they come back because the actors/singers/dancers have to be in close physical contact as well as almost spitting into each others mouths when they need to project, the dressing rooms are tiny and the orchestra pit (I know...doesn't apply to Carnival) is really crowded.   This would be in addition to limited capacity in the theatre . 

 

The same holds true on a cruise ship....so I don't see "main productions" happening.  There's gonna be more jugglers, comedians and magicians....one person acts.

 

   That's what were hearing with pro sports, too - pro football is problematic in an era of distancing. Extensive daily testing with high-accuracy tests might make it work, but we're not close to being there.

    For real entertainment, take a few minutes and try to solve the puzzle of cruise ship corridors. They could be a tight squeeze even in the pre-virus days, especially if two or three groups (or a couple of stewards and a guy on a scooter) tried passing in those long stretches between the cabin door clusters. Now try to add 6-foot distancing and tell me how that works.
 
   Make them one-way?  So you've got a port side cabin ...  just five doors up the hallway are the elevators and stairs. But they're toward the bow, and your corridor is a "stern only" one-way. So you have to go all the way a crossover in the back, cut across and hike all the way up?   We can't even get people in supermarkets to comply.

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1 hour ago, FiredogCruiser said:

I really believe that before people get to caught up in 'side' they really ought to do some research into both the virus size, (relating to pass through ability) and the actual science involved with the masks. They are not as effective as 'common knowledge' would lead you to believe.

 

This really isn't about whether people like the rules or believe in the reasons for the rules. It's only about whether they can discipline themselves to comply.  So far, at least in the U.S., the answer has been a crushing "no."

 

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33 minutes ago, EscapeFromConnecticut said:

 

This really isn't about whether people like the rules or believe in the reasons for the rules. It's only about whether they can discipline themselves to comply.  So far, at least in the U.S., the answer has been a crushing "no."

 

And so the question becomes, since large segments of the public are not going to support the 'rules' as you put it, regardless of the science, or lack of science, behind the 'rule', will government intentionally prolong the misery? My guess is that they are already doing it. Science has been replaced by politics. The curve has been bent. That was the objective. Prolonging is not being supported by either numbers or science, only politics, therefore the lack of public support for 'rules'. The public is actually not as dumb as many in government would want to believe.

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23 hours ago, FiredogCruiser said:

And so the question becomes, since large segments of the public are not going to support the 'rules' as you put it, regardless of the science, or lack of science, behind the 'rule', will government intentionally prolong the misery? My guess is that they are already doing it. Science has been replaced by politics. The curve has been bent. That was the objective. Prolonging is not being supported by either numbers or science, only politics, therefore the lack of public support for 'rules'. The public is actually not as dumb as many in government would want to believe.


This isn't about politics or your opinions about government. It's about whether CCL (or any line) can successfully sail if it chooses to put forward a "masks are required" directive. Can passengers be relied on to comply.

As citizens on land, a small but ungodly vocal group has made clear they won't. They've done this in public places, and in a long series of private businesses that requested or required masks. And if these "freedom fighters" are on a fall cruise, will any of the rational and honorable passengers have any vacation ... or spend their time worrying that another sneering, swaggering loudmouth without a mask will push in behind them at the elevators, crowd up to them on deck or follow them in the hallways.

 

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One thing that we can agree on is that anyone who posts on this forum likes to cruise....or that person wouldn't waste their time here.

 

The people such as me, Escape from CT...and others who wouldn't jump on a ship in August....would like to get back to "fun times at sea" too...BUT...in order to do that we want to hold off and wait until things are really safe.  We are so far from that.  I'm giving up so much of my entertainment on a daily basis....not asking for the gym to reopen, not asking for B'way theatres or museums to reopen...because I don't want to go back too soon and compound the problem.

 

To the people who "really need to be on a boat"....hold off.  For the most part, I guarantee you are not from severely affected areas or haven't been affected and you just don't "get it".

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33 minutes ago, MsTabbyKats said:

One thing that we can agree on is that anyone who posts on this forum likes to cruise....or that person wouldn't waste their time here.

 

The people such as me, Escape from CT...and others who wouldn't jump on a ship in August....would like to get back to "fun times at sea" too...BUT...in order to do that we want to hold off and wait until things are really safe.  We are so far from that.  I'm giving up so much of my entertainment on a daily basis....not asking for the gym to reopen, not asking for B'way theatres or museums to reopen...because I don't want to go back too soon and compound the problem.

 

To the people who "really need to be on a boat"....hold off.  For the most part, I guarantee you are not from severely affected areas or haven't been affected and you just don't "get it".


Amen.

 

Personally, I deeply miss MLB ... the family Memorial Day gathering that's already called off as well as a friend's usual July 4th party ... the Atlantic beaches that just won't be the same this year ... and the thought of a 10-day South Caribbean itinerary seems wonderful.

 

 But that's just not reality right now.  
 

 We've had plenty of middle-aged COVID victims around here, and the obituary pages of NY and Boston-area papers are running way, way longer than any time in my memory. A quick look at the memorial photos on crew-center.com tells us COVID is not a risk only for the elderly ... I didn't know any of those crew members,  but they look like the healthy and strong young/youngish workers we've seen on every ship we ever sailed. Horrifying. And more of that is NOT an okay risk just to satisfy some folks' demands for instant gratification.

 

 

 

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I disagree about your character attack on people who don't want to wear a mask.  What does the mask actually accomplish.  I don't see how a cruise line can ask people to wear a mask.  First, how do you eat and drink?  Does everyone have to go back to their cabins?  How do you have social distancing on a cruise ship.  

 

I am not one of the ones protesting or refusing to wear a mask where required.  But If wearing a mask is a requirement to cruise then I would cancel.  Seems like too much of a hassle.

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40 minutes ago, MsTabbyKats said:

One thing that we can agree on is that anyone who posts on this forum likes to cruise....or that person wouldn't waste their time here.

 

The people such as me, Escape from CT...and others who wouldn't jump on a ship in August....would like to get back to "fun times at sea" too...BUT...in order to do that we want to hold off and wait until things are really safe.  We are so far from that.  I'm giving up so much of my entertainment on a daily basis....not asking for the gym to reopen, not asking for B'way theatres or museums to reopen...because I don't want to go back too soon and compound the problem.

 

To the people who "really need to be on a boat"....hold off.  For the most part, I guarantee you are not from severely affected areas or haven't been affected and you just don't "get it".

They just shut Broadway until at least September.  We (Long Island) might be lucky and have tennis courts/pickleball courts re-opened Friday - for singles only. I am sure the courts will be jammed, with social distancing forgotten.   Pretty much everything else is still closed, except for take-out/curbside restaurant service.  We still have met only 5/7 parameters for a soft re-opening, and NY had a low of "only" 166 covid-related deaths yesterday.  Still a staggering number - but better than being in the 600's as we once were.  And now with the virus possibly affecting children with inflammatory syndrome -  another curveball encountered.  My next cruise is set for January - but I am not even sure I will risk going on it if there is still coronavirus around, having underlying medical conditions and being over the age of 60.  I miss cruising to no end - but cannot fathom going on a cruise until the virus has all but disappeared - if that ever happens- or some kind of immunization comes along.  If we have to wear facemasks while cruising, I can accept that while inside the ship.  I would cancel if required to wear a facemask while on the open decks.

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9 minutes ago, pe4all said:

They just shut Broadway until at least September.  We (Long Island) might be lucky and have tennis courts/pickleball courts re-opened Friday - for singles only. I am sure the courts will be jammed, with social distancing forgotten.   Pretty much everything else is still closed, except for take-out/curbside restaurant service.  We still have met only 5/7 parameters for a soft re-opening, and NY had a low of "only" 166 covid-related deaths yesterday.  Still a staggering number - but better than being in the 600's as we once were.  And now with the virus possibly affecting children with inflammatory syndrome -  another curveball encountered.  My next cruise is set for January - but I am not even sure I will risk going on it if there is still coronavirus around, having underlying medical conditions and being over the age of 60.  I miss cruising to no end - but cannot fathom going on a cruise until the virus has all but disappeared - if that ever happens- or some kind of immunization comes along.  If we have to wear facemasks while cruising, I can accept that while inside the ship.  I would cancel if required to wear a facemask while on the open decks.

B'way is officially closed till Sept, but I have it from a very good reliable insider source....don't expect it to open until 2021.

I cruise to "get away from reality".  Wearing a mask, even inside a ship, would just have reality follow me.

Anyway....until someone can explain how they will solve "the elevator issue" I'll be sitting home.

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On 5/12/2020 at 11:46 AM, FiredogCruiser said:

And so the question becomes, since large segments of the public are not going to support the 'rules' as you put it, regardless of the science, or lack of science, behind the 'rule', will government intentionally prolong the misery? My guess is that they are already doing it. Science has been replaced by politics. The curve has been bent. That was the objective. Prolonging is not being supported by either numbers or science, only politics, therefore the lack of public support for 'rules'. The public is actually not as dumb as many in government would want to believe.

 

It doesn't take many dumb rule breakers to reverse all progress made. The objective was to reduce the number of deaths.

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On 4/12/2020 at 7:10 PM, shof515 said:

it depends on the insurance.if you have a pre-exisiting medical condition, travel insurance will not cover you unless you purchase the insurance within 14 days or so after placing the deposit on the cruise. also insurance has various look back policy's for medical issues

 

Depends on the insurance. I know of at least a couple that have no time limit on pre-existing conditions

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37 minutes ago, dallasdan said:

I disagree about your character attack on people who don't want to wear a mask.  What does the mask actually accomplish.  I don't see how a cruise line can ask people to wear a mask.  First, how do you eat and drink?  Does everyone have to go back to their cabins?  How do you have social distancing on a cruise ship.  

 

I am not one of the ones protesting or refusing to wear a mask where required.  But If wearing a mask is a requirement to cruise then I would cancel.  Seems like too much of a hassle.

 

What the mask accomplishes is protecting others from you. If someone else is wearing a mask, it protects you from them.

 

Ellen%20Macomber%20Masks

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1 hour ago, EscapeFromConnecticut said:


This isn't about politics or your opinions about government. It's about whether CCL (or any line) can successfully sail if it chooses to put forward a "masks are required" directive. Can passengers be relied on to comply.

As citizens on land, a small but ungodly vocal group has made clear they won't. They've done this in public places, and in a long series of private businesses that requested or required masks. And if these "freedom fighters" are on a fall cruise, will any of the rational and honorable passengers have any vacation ... or spend their time worrying that another sneering, swaggering loudmouth without a mask will push in behind them at the elevators, crowd up to them on deck or follow them in the hallways.

 

 

Put it in the cruise contract to wear or be put off the ship without refund or recourse.

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5 minutes ago, BlerkOne said:

 

Put it in the cruise contract to wear or be put off the ship without refund or recourse.

Oh yeah....the old "walk the plank" thing!

 

A woman was screaming in CVS the other day..."no cop's gonna tell me to wear a mask".

 

I can just see one of the small thin Filipinos trying to enforce this with a 250 lb biker looking guy 🙂

 

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39 minutes ago, MsTabbyKats said:

Oh yeah....the old "walk the plank" thing!

 

A woman was screaming in CVS the other day..."no cop's gonna tell me to wear a mask".

 

I can just see one of the small thin Filipinos trying to enforce this with a 250 lb biker looking guy 🙂

 

 

There is strength in numbers in Carnival security and they have dealt with drunks and trouble makers before.

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1 hour ago, dallasdan said:

I disagree about your character attack on people who don't want to wear a mask.  What does the mask actually accomplish.  I don't see how a cruise line can ask people to wear a mask.  First, how do you eat and drink?  Does everyone have to go back to their cabins?  How do you have social distancing on a cruise ship.  

 

I am not one of the ones protesting or refusing to wear a mask where required.  But If wearing a mask is a requirement to cruise then I would cancel.  Seems like too much of a hassle.

 

 

guess you are not flying anywhere soon

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