PaulS Posted August 13, 2020 #76 Share Posted August 13, 2020 I believe the ship on the far left of the picture is the original Crown Princess. The design of the dome on the front, and maybe the entire ship, was attributed to Renzo Piano, a famous architect. We sailed on her in the early 90’s. It was a very nice ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted August 13, 2020 #77 Share Posted August 13, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, PaulS said: I believe the ship on the far left of the picture is the original Crown Princess. The design of the dome on the front, and maybe the entire ship, was attributed to Renzo Piano, a famous architect. We sailed on her in the early 90’s. It was a very nice ship. I think it's the Regal now sailing for P&O Australia. We sailed both, so far ahead of their time Edited August 13, 2020 by John&LaLa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodscruise Posted August 14, 2020 #78 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Yes it was the original Regal Princess sailing as Pacific Dawn. The original Crown Princess did transfer to P&O Australia as the Pacific Jewel, but is now sailing as the Karnika for Zen cruises and operated by Jalesh Cruises based in India 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extra Kim Posted August 16, 2020 #79 Share Posted August 16, 2020 They are working fast. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loves_Dogs Posted August 16, 2020 #80 Share Posted August 16, 2020 What a bummer...Inspiration was my first cruise which began my love of cruising. 😭 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnjen Posted August 18, 2020 #81 Share Posted August 18, 2020 On 8/13/2020 at 3:05 PM, zonacruiser25 said: Yes. As far as I am aware it is the only site for US Navy reactors. I heard they are looking into being able to put surface ship reactors there somewhere. It's better than where the Russians store theirs....Andreyeva Bay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted August 18, 2020 #82 Share Posted August 18, 2020 On 8/16/2020 at 3:18 AM, Extra Kim said: They are working fast. Very different than India. The watermark is annoying, though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F27TW Posted August 18, 2020 #83 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Its always sad to see shipbreaking .. especially these, since so many of us have a history of travel on these particular ships. Monarch still appears fully intact .. the romantic in me would love to see her make a run for it and "escape" somehow to safety! ;) 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeMissSeaView Posted August 18, 2020 #84 Share Posted August 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, F27TW said: Its always sad to see shipbreaking .. especially these, since so many of us have a history of travel on these particular ships. Monarch still appears fully intact .. the romantic in me would love to see her make a run for it and "escape" somehow to safety! 😉 What is odd is that the lifeboats have been removed from the Monarch, but are still on the Sovereign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Pete Posted August 19, 2020 #85 Share Posted August 19, 2020 On 8/6/2020 at 5:15 PM, Philly Steve said: Went through the same heartbreak with SS Norway years ago. Clock is ticking for so many other wonderful ships. Our best cruise to date was on Monarch. Ditto. It was the first thing I thought of. It was always a dream of mine to sail on her, after being on the France SO MANY YEARS prior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Pete Posted August 19, 2020 #86 Share Posted August 19, 2020 On 8/6/2020 at 10:23 PM, Pratique said: These ships will live on in our memories. Even before my first cruise on NCL Norway I was enamored with Pacific Princess as I saw her on that famous TV show, and I was a bit melancholy when she was scrapped. I discovered that she made a cameo appearance in a 1978 Cadillac brochure. The epitome of luxury in her time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extra Kim Posted August 24, 2020 #87 Share Posted August 24, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted August 26, 2020 #88 Share Posted August 26, 2020 (edited) Looks like maybe some space is opening up there on the beach - AIS shows Aliaga as the destination for Carnival Imagination which is currently docked in Curacao. Horizon's AIS has been off for over a week - she was due there after Monarch/Sovereign. Edited August 26, 2020 by Biker19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted August 26, 2020 #89 Share Posted August 26, 2020 On 8/7/2020 at 1:08 PM, jerseyjjs said: Just to let you know, the second Carnival ship from our right is the Inspiration, not the Imagination. It might be in the picture soon: https://www.cruisehive.com/carnival-imagination-might-be-heading-for-the-scrapyard/41304 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmwnc1959 Posted August 28, 2020 #90 Share Posted August 28, 2020 (edited) My apologies if this was posted elsewhere, found an aerial (satellite) image prior to Inspiration being beached...the website is in German. https://www.wiwo.de/wirtschaft-von-oben/wirtschaft-von-oben-66-coronakrise-auf-diesem-schiffsfriedhof-enden-die-kreuzfahrttraeume/26107852.html The second image has a “slider” and you can advance the image to include Inspiration, but the clarity leaves a lot to be desired. Edited August 28, 2020 by dmwnc1959 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted August 29, 2020 #91 Share Posted August 29, 2020 2 hours ago, dmwnc1959 said: My apologies if this was posted elsewhere, found an aerial (satellite) image prior to Inspiration being beached...the website is in German. https://www.wiwo.de/wirtschaft-von-oben/wirtschaft-von-oben-66-coronakrise-auf-diesem-schiffsfriedhof-enden-die-kreuzfahrttraeume/26107852.html The second image has a “slider” and you can advance the image to include Inspiration, but the clarity leaves a lot to be desired. Great picture of the first 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted August 29, 2020 #92 Share Posted August 29, 2020 4 hours ago, John&LaLa said: Great picture of the first 3 Still trying to picture how they got the fourth ship squeezed in there or where Imagination will go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted August 29, 2020 #93 Share Posted August 29, 2020 34 minutes ago, Biker19 said: Still trying to picture how they got the fourth ship squeezed in there or where Imagination will go. You never watched Speed2 🤔😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted August 31, 2020 #94 Share Posted August 31, 2020 A screen grab from the Valletta web cam of Majesty just now: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket3D Posted August 31, 2020 #95 Share Posted August 31, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeMissSeaView Posted August 31, 2020 #96 Share Posted August 31, 2020 10 hours ago, Biker19 said: A screen grab from the Valletta web cam of Majesty just now: Just like the Empress when it was on the way to Greece. Both Ships were docked for just a few hours before they continued on to Greece. Majesty has now sailed from Malta and is on its way again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted September 1, 2020 #97 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Some info in this article: https://www.ft.com/content/b0d09282-1559-4169-a3ec-92c12ebfb78e Don't recall seeing info about Marella Celebration being scrapped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extra Kim Posted September 1, 2020 #98 Share Posted September 1, 2020 6 hours ago, Biker19 said: Some info in this article: https://www.ft.com/content/b0d09282-1559-4169-a3ec-92c12ebfb78e Don't recall seeing info about Marella Celebration being scrapped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted September 1, 2020 #99 Share Posted September 1, 2020 The English seaside resort of Weymouth is in the heart of the Jurassic coast, an almost 100-mile stretch of shoreline renowned for its fossils. But this summer the region’s geology has faced unexpected competition for tourists’ attention from a fleet of vast cruise ships idled close to the town. A curiosity for visitors, the hulking vessels are a grim reminder of the spiralling crisis the pandemic has inflicted on the $150bn cruise industry. Instead of trying to top the record 30m passengers carried last year, the industry’s more than 60 operators are having to tackle the fraught and costly question of what to do with the almost 350 ships that should be criss-crossing the globe. The last time ships were idled for any significant period was in the wake of the September 11 terrorist attacks. But executives say the coronavirus crisis, which has left small congregations of ships moored off coastlines from the US to Indonesia, is far more life-threatening for the industry. “9/11 was the last big thing for the cruise industry and it only lasted a short time so this is unprecedented,” said Alex Downes, an industry consultant who also works as a captain on the Marella cruise line. Almost six months since many governments imposed lockdowns to curb the virus, companies are drawing up plans to sail again. MSC, the largest privately owned operator, is making a tentative return to the Mediterranean this month, while Carnival, the world’s largest, is plotting a European relaunch. But with Covid-19 resurgent in Europe, pockets of cases erupting in Asia and the US still struggling to control the pandemic, the challenge of what to do with vessels risks becoming even more urgent as the financial burden on companies grows. Last month, Mr Downes handed over the ship he had most recently captained, the Marella Celebration, to a Turkish company that had bought it for scrap. “It was sold so there was no point in maintaining anything except to the minimum legal standards . . . there were 40 of us [on board], where there are normally 600 crew members and 1,500 passengers,” he said. Marella is not the only company sending ships to the scrapyard. Royal Caribbean, the world’s second-biggest cruise line, has so far announced the scrapping of three of its vessels. Wouter Rozenveld, director of Sea2Cradle, which specialises in ship recycling and is overseeing the scrapping of two Carnival liners, said this year was the first that his company had worked with the cruise industry. “There will definitely be more ships scrapped and more than normal until this Covid virus is under control,” he said. If the pandemic’s ultimate trajectory is the biggest unknown for the industry, much of the immediate picture is clear — and painful. Given the abundant supply, cruise lines have diminished bargaining power over how much they can expect for scrapped ships. Companies are being forced to accept “quite a low price” because “it’s a buyers’ market” and taking apart such complicated vessels is “a cumbersome operation”, said Mr Rosenveld. With most of the $150bn industry still in shutdown, small congregations of ships are moored off coastlines from the UK to Indonesia Historically, it has been common for ship owners to send vessels to be dismantled in India and Pakistan, where costs are far lower. Sea2Cradle estimates that it costs up to $160 a tonne more to scrap a ship in Europe than in Asia. For a cruise ship, which averages 25,000 tonnes without fittings or passengers, that could amount to $4m. But the industry in south-east Asia has been dogged by allegations of environmental and human rights abuses. Kendra Ulrich, shipping campaigns director for the environmental group Stand.earth, said: “Having [ships] broken down in south Asia is very, very inexpensive. It’s like anywhere else where industrialised nations are dumping their waste on the global south where there are poor environmental and labour standards.” Carnival has sent its ships to be scrapped at an EU-approved yard in Turkey, but Ms Ulrich is concerned that a lack of global regulation means not everyone in the industry will follow suit. “There is a risk,” she said, that cruise companies will “cut corners and do the minimum to maximise their profits because they are in such dire economic straits”. Analysts at US investment bank Morgan Stanley are dismissive of the idea that scrapping ships can move the dial financially for the operators, saying that the contribution would be “immaterial”. What is clear, though, is that an assessment of the value of their fleets is key to whether cruise companies will be able to ride out this storm. Multiple groups have used their vessels, which can cost anything between $500m and $1bn to build and typically have a lifespan of 40 years, as collateral when seeking emergency funding. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare A&L_Ont Posted September 9, 2020 #100 Share Posted September 9, 2020 I just saw this on YouTube. It appears to be the moment they shut down the ship’s power. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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