Pfizer vaccine formally approved in Oz

[possum52]

17 minutes ago, NSWP said:

I disagree, they are going to have sales assistants in local Pharmacies jabbing people, like they do with the flu injections.

 

Veterinary Science Degree at Uni is 5 to 6 years. Veterinary Nurse is 3 years. They are well qualified.

There is no way I would go to a pharmacy for a vaccinations if the sales assistant is giving the jab. I  thought they employed trained nurses to give vaccinations. 

 

Leigh

[NSWP]

3 hours ago, possum52 said:

There is no way I would go to a pharmacy for a vaccinations if the sales assistant is giving the jab. I  thought they employed trained nurses to give vaccinations. 

 

Leigh

It is a pandemic Leigh, all hands to the wheel.

[MicCanberra]

I have a first aid certificate, perhaps I can do my own?

[NSWP]

14 minutes ago, MicCanberra said:

I have a first aid certificate, perhaps I can do my own?

Ditto, double bubble, lol

[possum52]

41 minutes ago, NSWP said:

It is a pandemic Leigh, all hands to the wheel.

The Pfizer vaccinations will be given in hospitals Les because of the required temperature the vaccine has to be kept at. 

 

35 minutes ago, MicCanberra said:

I have a first aid certificate, perhaps I can do my own?

I have a first aid certificate too Mic, but if I'm to have the Pfizer vaccine, I won't be giving it to myself. 😄Perhaps the Astra Zeneca though .......

 

 

Leigh

 

[MicCanberra]

1 minute ago, possum52 said:

The Pfizer vaccinations will be given in hospitals Les because of the required temperature the vaccine has to be kept at. 

 

I have a first aid certificate too Mic, but if I'm to have the Pfizer vaccine, I won't be giving it to myself. 😄Perhaps the Astra Zeneca though .......

 

 

Leigh

 

Self injections can be tricky, especially if putting it into your own gluteus maximus.

[possum52]

18 minutes ago, MicCanberra said:

Self injections can be tricky, especially if putting it into your own gluteus maximus.

Yep, fine if going in your stomach but not for your upper arm or gluteus maximus. 

 

Leigh

[Docker123]

There was a big fight when pharmacists wanted to get approval to give flu shots. AMA very unsupportive.

 

I believe that the outcome was that the injections have to be given by pharmacists are another holder of certification of training to give vaccinations.

 

One of my sisters is a psychiatric nurse. A couple of years ago she had to undertake the extensive training to get certified for community nursing work.

 

[Aus Traveller]

6 hours ago, possum52 said:

There is no way I would go to a pharmacy for a vaccinations if the sales assistant is giving the jab. I  thought they employed trained nurses to give vaccinations. 

 

Leigh

I believe the pharmacies employ trained nurses to give vaccinations. I don't believe pharmacy assistants without training would be permitted to do so. We get our flu shot from our GP, but I have seen ads for the pharmacy where people wanting a flu shot have to make an appointment.

Edited January 26, 2021 by Aus Traveller

[Porky55]

I think you I’ll find that your GP will be able to give you your vaccination and that is my preferred option. Our surgery does get clinical nurses in to give flu shots so I guess this is how Covid shot will be given too 🙄
 

https://www.racgp.org.au/clinical-resources/covid-19-vaccine-resources/news-and-updates/covid-19-vaccine-information-for-gps

 

[Porky55]

Also interesting regarding Pfizer Vaccine about storage:

Pfizer/BioNTech Vaccine

STORAGE:

For long-term storage (approximately six months) the vaccine must be kept at -70° C, which requires specialist cooling equipment. Pfizer has a distribution container that keeps the vaccine at that temperature for 10 days if unopened. These containers can be used for temporary storage in a vaccination facility for up to 30 days if they are replenished with dry ice every five days. Once thawed, the vaccine can be stored at 2°C to 8°C for up to five days

[MicCanberra]

That would make it easier to roll out.

[Docker123]

So, will it get here in time?

 

Big fight brewing in EU because Pfizer had reduced production and will not be able to meet European contract numbers. EU may sue and refuse export permits to outside countries, such as Australia.

 

Astra is also caught up with inability to deliver contract amounts. But local supplies will be manufactured in Melbourne.

 

https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/vaccine-export-dispute-in-europe-may-threaten-australian-supplies-20210126-p56x15.html

[Porky55]

52 minutes ago, Docker123 said:

Big fight brewing in EU because Pfizer had reduced production and will not be able to meet European contract numbers. EU may sue and refuse export permits to outside countries, such as Australia.

The reason that Pfizer has reduced numbers - needed to expand facilities. Personally I think this is good news as it means the expected number of humans vaccinated is far higher than we first thought:

https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/pfizer-and-biontech-pushing-for-2b-coronavirus-vaccine-doses-2021-temporarily-reduce

[Aus Traveller]

1 minute ago, Porky55 said:

The reason that Pfizer has reduced numbers - needed to expand facilities. Personally I think this is good news as it means the expected number of humans vaccinated is far higher than we first thought:

https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/pfizer-and-biontech-pushing-for-2b-coronavirus-vaccine-doses-2021-temporarily-reduce

Pfizer is reducing manufacturing capacity for three to four weeks while they expand their facilities. After that there will be increased production. Surely this is good.

 

I think it is crazy for Italy to threaten legal action against Pfizer.

[Porky55]

Aus Traveller - agree totally. Most important thing for all is the vaccine will continue to be produced and as soon as possible, at an increased capacity.
Can also understand Italy’s (and others) fear of slowdown in their supply - can’t begin to imagine what it has been like in these countries 🤔

[Blackduck59]

I'm glad to see that you now have an approved vaccine and I hope that with all the time that has been available to plan that your Federal Government has come up with a smooth and effective distribution plan. Needless to say we have had a few hiccups in our roll out and the fact that there has been a delay in delivery of vaccine has just thrown a wrench in things.

We have Pfizer and Moderna here, no talk of Astra Zeneca so far. Our Government is more than a little choked that Pfizer are not living up to their contracts with us.

Just to clarify something, as far as I know the Premier of the province of Ontario suggested that the Americans should give up 1 million doses to Canada, I'm not sure what possessed him to think that would get any traction. I have not heard anything about our PM asking the President about that when they talked last week.

Best of luck to everyone that your roll out goes well and everyone who wants the vaccine gets it in a timely fashion.

With any luck Lynn will get a bit of a priority working in health care, I'm under the impression that my age group is up in June for first dose and July for the second one. And now there is talk of a 3rd in regard to the "South African" variety.

[By The Bay]

9 minutes ago, Blackduck59 said:

With any luck Lynn will get a bit of a priority working in health care, I'm under the impression that my age group is up in June for first dose and July for the second one. And now there is talk of a 3rd in regard to the "South African" variety.

The rich nations a looking after themselves. The poor nations are getting the Chinese and Russian vaccines. Not the smartest move by the rich nations. I have read that they expect COVID-19 to keep changing, and we will require at least a yearly dose until it disappears. Just like the Spanish flu.😉

[Porky55]

25 minutes ago, By The Bay said:

The rich nations a looking after themselves. The poor nations are getting the Chinese and Russian vaccines. Not the smartest move by the rich nations. I have read that they expect COVID-19 to keep changing, and we will require at least a yearly dose until it disappears. Just like the Spanish flu.😉

The Spanish Flu hasn’t disappeared as there are vaccines available for it every year - it is the H1N1 flu:

 

In virology, influenza A virus subtype H1N1 (A/H1N1) is a subtype of Influenza A virus. Well known outbreaks of H1N1 strains in humans include the 2009 swine flu pandemic, as well as the 1918 flu pandemic.
 

[ilikeanswers]

2 hours ago, By The Bay said:

The rich nations a looking after themselves. The poor nations are getting the Chinese and Russian vaccines. Not the smartest move by the rich nations.😉

 

You do wonder how this will effect travel🤔 Are there certain vaccines we will just deem not acceptable and then what is that going to do to our relationship with those countries if we tell them that their vaccine is not good enough to let those people into our countries or work on our cruise ships😳. The sad fact is these vaccines are actually not that bad and have decent efficacy but their silly governments turning it into a political football are ruining the credibility of sound science. I just hope we don't punish the people for some political point scoring🙄. 

[Porky55]

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Edited February 9, 2021 by Porky55

[NSWP]

Most of us won't be getting the Pfizer, too expensive for the govt to buy it for 25 million people.  Most of us will be getting the el cheapo stuff.

[BRANDEE]

2 hours ago, NSWP said:

Most of us won't be getting the Pfizer, too expensive for the govt to buy it for 25 million people.  Most of us will be getting the el cheapo stuff.

Hi NSWP...I found this for you.

 

Moderna   $25-37 a dose   (USD)

Pfizer...$19.50 

AstraZeneca...$25-37  

Johnson/Johnson...$10 

Russian Sputnik V...$10

 

Biospace.com/article/comparing-covid-19-vaccines.

 

Husband and I both had a reaction to Pfizer..chills and fatigue for one day. (But we both still were able to shovel 6 inches of snow from our driveway and around our corner house).   Being told that anyone who had covid would probably get a reaction on the first dose due to our "natural" immunity is expected.  No idea what will happen with the second dose?????.

 

Edited February 10, 2021 by BRANDEE

[Docker123]

This is the Statistica estimates on 1/12 ( 1 Dec).

Astra considerably cheaper in this.

 

Our Astra vaccine is being manufacturers here in Melbourne. So savings on transport etc.  

 

Here, vaccinations are covered by the govt. was yours free or a cost?

 

 

[NSWP]

We will get the $4 stuff. Interesting, disparity re prices posted by Brandee. 

Edited February 10, 2021 by NSWP