Rare Roberto256 Posted April 13, 2021 #151 Share Posted April 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, Steelers36 said: Yes, but with no slight to Princess, the Four Seasons Hotel chain is a top-of-the-market luxury hotel chain, while Princess is a very good mid-market cruise line. I was directing that towards a previous comment that a cruise is not an ordinary activity because it is expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richsea Posted April 13, 2021 #152 Share Posted April 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Steelers36 said: Well, let's see. With two FL Senators, a FL Governor, and a FL-based ex-POTUS who can still serve one more term, all potentially running in 2024, it might make sense - by the odds - to put a dollar down on the next GOP Nominee being from FL. Or a third party candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmjc2 Posted April 14, 2021 #153 Share Posted April 14, 2021 "No shoes no shirt no service" "This business reserves the right to refuse service to any one." Private businesses have always had the right to require certain criteria from it's customers so vaccinations should be one of those should they chose it to be. Also there is the question---do the cruise ship regulations come under the purview of the port authority not the Gov? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voljeep Posted April 14, 2021 #154 Share Posted April 14, 2021 lots of progress needs to be made in the next 3 weeks, as then the 60 window opens to cruising by July 4th, 2021 will it happen ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.T.B. Posted April 14, 2021 #155 Share Posted April 14, 2021 22 minutes ago, gmjc2 said: "No shoes no shirt no service" "This business reserves the right to refuse service to any one." Private businesses have always had the right to require certain criteria from it's customers so vaccinations should be one of those should they chose it to be. Also there is the question---do the cruise ship regulations come under the purview of the port authority not the Gov? Secretary of Transportation basically Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyInVan Posted April 14, 2021 #156 Share Posted April 14, 2021 3 hours ago, voljeep said: lots of progress needs to be made in the next 3 weeks, as then the 60 window opens to cruising by July 4th, 2021 will it happen ? It's only happen if there's a vax mandate on board. "Nearly 40% of Marines have so far declined to receive a vaccine to protect against the coronavirus" https://ca.news.yahoo.com/nearly-40-marines-far-declined-143612069.html That's the irreducible minimum. Likely to be a lot of other restrictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare c-boy Posted April 14, 2021 #157 Share Posted April 14, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, voljeep said: lots of progress needs to be made in the next 3 weeks, as then the 60 window opens to cruising by July 4th, 2021 will it happen ? well execs and CDC met at the White House Monday..... 🤞 Edited April 14, 2021 by c-boy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabin1 Posted April 14, 2021 #158 Share Posted April 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, c-boy said: well execs and CDC met at the White House today ..... 🤞 which executives the cruises?? Kathy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare c-boy Posted April 14, 2021 #159 Share Posted April 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, rabin1 said: which executives the cruises?? Kathy Sorry Kathy They met on Monday , https://www.cruisecritic.com/news/6037/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galelynn Posted April 14, 2021 #160 Share Posted April 14, 2021 What if you are flying in for a cruise and stay a day or two before you board, how are they going to control where you have visited or stayed? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beg3yrs Posted April 14, 2021 #161 Share Posted April 14, 2021 57 minutes ago, galelynn said: What if you are flying in for a cruise and stay a day or two before you board, how are they going to control where you have visited or stayed? You definitely understand some of the problems with these restrictions. Many just don't make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabin1 Posted April 14, 2021 #162 Share Posted April 14, 2021 (edited) I have a question? We could debate this until the cows come home(my mom used to say) but what exactly are we debating? We don;'t really know what the cruise lines are going to do as far as restrictions except NCL saying they are requiring vaccines. So maybe we should just all give it a break and wait and see. There are way too many unknowns. Let the politicians, CLIA battle for us. Kathy Edited April 14, 2021 by rabin1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyInVan Posted April 14, 2021 #163 Share Posted April 14, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, c-boy said: Sorry Kathy They met on Monday , https://www.cruisecritic.com/news/6037/ "On Monday, the CDC met with White House staff and cruise industry leaders..." Sounds like the WH has asked its staffers to do fact finding. What's the CDC's riorities and timeline? What are the cruise industry's proposals and timeline. The good thing is that the WH is taking notice. The problem is that none of the congressional leaders are involved. Poor optics. What? You're asking for vaccines for your non-Americans crews on foreign flagged ships? What? You're proposing to mix vax and non-vaccinated passengers? What? You intend to ignore the CDC advise on non-essential travel? Edited April 14, 2021 by HappyInVan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelers36 Posted April 14, 2021 #164 Share Posted April 14, 2021 4 hours ago, galelynn said: What if you are flying in for a cruise and stay a day or two before you board, how are they going to control where you have visited or stayed? 3 hours ago, beg3yrs said: You definitely understand some of the problems with these restrictions. Many just don't make sense. That is really about the same thing as a FL resident in a way. They could be doing anything up to cruise time. (Using PE as an example). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelers36 Posted April 14, 2021 #165 Share Posted April 14, 2021 1 hour ago, HappyInVan said: Hey, graph person.... why don't you post one with Canada or at least Ontario over-laying the US and show how our cases per capita are higher than theirs now? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyInVan Posted April 14, 2021 #166 Share Posted April 14, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Steelers36 said: Hey, graph person.... why don't you post one with Canada or at least Ontario over-laying the US and show how our cases per capita are higher than theirs now? For Ontario, I'll let you explain why. Anyway, your point is irrelevant. Canada has banned cruising till February 2022! Edited April 14, 2021 by HappyInVan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.T.B. Posted April 15, 2021 #167 Share Posted April 15, 2021 7 hours ago, galelynn said: What if you are flying in for a cruise and stay a day or two before you board, how are they going to control where you have visited or stayed? Which I am doing in February. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K.T.B. Posted April 15, 2021 #168 Share Posted April 15, 2021 2 hours ago, HappyInVan said: For Ontario, I'll let you explain why. Anyway, your point is irrelevant. Canada has banned cruising till February 2022! Which, it seems, is more to protect non-Canadians from being infected than anything else... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nocl Posted April 15, 2021 #169 Share Posted April 15, 2021 18 hours ago, Steelers36 said: Hey, graph person.... why don't you post one with Canada or at least Ontario over-laying the US and show how our cases per capita are higher than theirs now? He only posts things where he can criticize the US. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bgwest Posted April 15, 2021 #170 Share Posted April 15, 2021 21 hours ago, Steelers36 said: Hey, graph person.... why don't you post one with Canada or at least Ontario over-laying the US and show how our cases per capita are higher than theirs now? That would require smiley to do some deep thinking rather than just throwing down a bunch of negative charts and graphs. Ain't gonna happen. Great try though! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmjc2 Posted May 10, 2021 #171 Share Posted May 10, 2021 No comments on the latest update form CDC!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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