Royal Caribbean Coastal Cruises

[gbenjo]

2 minutes ago, adelaidefc said:

 

I won't say any more on this so as not to derail the thread entirely - but yes it would be backdated. Seems better value to the taxpayer than the $billions paid in Jobkeeper to companies that turned massive profits and kept the money. Speaking of everything for nothing? Guess that only applies to the already rich? 

Agree , lets not make this a political thing, no one ever wins…but just to answer your comment…..at the time jobkeeper was introduced I don't believe there was  a vaccine available and I think the dweeb wanted jobkeeper extended even more didn't he?  Best of both worlds .

[adelaidefc]

3 minutes ago, OzKiwiJJ said:

Us boomers have already had our vaccinations. We're waiting on the young ones to get off their butts and get some medical advice so they can get AZ instead of hanging out for Pfizer.

Around half of 50-70 year olds haven't even had their first shot despite being eligible for the last 4 months, and having 1 in 8 million risk of TTS vs under 40s (which is 1 in a million). 

Ok sorry I'll stop now. 

 

I got this email this morning too. At the very least worth waiting till tomorrow to see the local cruises on offer I guess. But I really, really can't see this happening in December, and can't imagine borders will be sufficiently open to allow it. 

 

And even if it does, keep an eye on the health protocols onboard (including the response if/when they get a case). Because we may end up on a boat where you're confined to your room 90% of the time if the protocol is to lockdown after single cases. 

[mr walker]

52 minutes ago, possum52 said:

That is quite cynical, plenty of incentives are being offered around the world for Covid vaccinations. 

 

Less cynical on my behalf than the proposer of the $300 payment I would suggest.

 

Anyway, I don't want to fall out with you over it as I respect your views on almost everything you have posted over the years, and enjoy your contributions... peace my friend, ok? Stay safe.

[SinbadThePorter]

2 minutes ago, gbenjo said:

Agree , lets not make this a political thing, no one ever wins

 

2 minutes ago, gbenjo said:

I think the dweeb

 

Try harder.

[lesands77]

12 minutes ago, Chiliburn said:

 

They are giving up to 3 lift and shift options.

 

 

We went for the 11 nights  - our 4th time on Radiance! The new price was heavily discounted for the 2 extra nights (originally 9 nights on Serenade) so it was the best value option. 

[gbenjo]

1 minute ago, adelaidefc said:

Around half of 50-70 year olds haven't even had their first shot despite being eligible for the last 4 months, and having 1 in 8 million risk of TTS vs under 40s (which is 1 in a million). 

Ok sorry I'll stop now. 

 

I got this email this morning too. At the very least worth waiting till tomorrow to see the local cruises on offer I guess. But I really, really can't see this happening in December, and can't imagine borders will be sufficiently open to allow it. 

 

And even if it does, keep an eye on the health protocols onboard (including the response if/when they get a case). Because we may end up on a boat where you're confined to your room 90% of the time if the protocol is to lockdown after single cases. 

The thing I cannot  understand is if the rest of the world can resume cruising ( safely) and their covid numbers are way higher than Australia,percentage wise, why cant we start. Yes there will be some new protocols and restrictions but they appear to be working elsewhere and don’t look to be too prohibitive for the guests. If we want to go cruising we just have to make some concessions . 

[OzKiwiJJ]

4 minutes ago, adelaidefc said:

Around half of 50-70 year olds haven't even had their first shot despite being eligible for the last 4 months, and having 1 in 8 million risk of TTS vs under 40s (which is 1 in a million). 

Ok sorry I'll stop now. 

 

Actually that age group needs to be split. The under 60's got snarled up in the AZ debate - yes they can have it, no they can't, yes they can if they talk to their GP - so there was a lot of confusion. And many people were scared of getting AZ if it was their only option because of all the negative publicity about it, which irresponsible and scaremongering at its worst. 

[OzKiwiJJ]

2 minutes ago, gbenjo said:

The thing I cannot  understand is if the rest of the world can resume cruising ( safely) and their covid numbers are way higher than Australia,percentage wise, why cant we start. Yes there will be some new protocols and restrictions but they appear to be working elsewhere and don’t look to be too prohibitive for the guests. If we want to go cruising we just have to make some concessions . 

Exactly. With fully vaccinated passengers and crews there is little risk even if a case occurs onboard. We've already seen reports of this happening and it was handled very efficiently with little disturbance to the majority of passengers onboard.

[GUT2407]

23 minutes ago, gbenjo said:

Yes,  and will he backdate it for all of us who have already had our shot(s) or maybe it is just for his greenie/socialist mates who want everything for nothing .

He actually said he’d backdate it, but only if he was in office by December. 

[gbenjo]

1 hour ago, possum52 said:

That is quite cynical, plenty of incentives are being offered around the world for Covid vaccinations. 

Covid Incentives Around the World

Isn't it a sad  situation though, that so many people will not doing anything about “ helping to save the world” ( overstated ..sorry) and lives without getting paid for it.😡😡😡

[adelaidefc]

9 minutes ago, gbenjo said:

The thing I cannot  understand is if the rest of the world can resume cruising ( safely) and their covid numbers are way higher than Australia,percentage wise, why cant we start. . 

 

Honestly it's just the vaccination rates and the acceptance of risk. In the US for example you're talking 80% of 65+ are fully vaccinated, similar in the UK. In Australia that number is still hovering around 40%. 

The vaccines don't fully prevent infection, they prevent serious illness, allowing the disease to become more safely endemic. 

 

In Australia, our risk tolerance is much lower when it comes to Covid. We went for Covid-Zero, and the population largely expects very few deaths from the disease, we don't seem to want to accept yet that the disease is endemic.

 

Our leaders need to start transitioning people to have less fuss about case numbers, and more on deaths and hospitalisations as vaccinations reduce these, despite high cases.

 

Once that happens, a few cases on a ship won't lead to mass media hysteria - but it sure would now.   

Edited August 4, 2021 by adelaidefc
factual correction

[Chiliburn]

8 minutes ago, lesands77 said:

We went for the 11 nights  - our 4th time on Radiance! The new price was heavily discounted for the 2 extra nights (originally 9 nights on Serenade) so it was the best value option. 

I had a booking on Ovation to Adelaide and Hobart for 7 nights in a balcony.

It was $760 each so I’m going to shift it to next year. We will never get a price like that again.

[SinbadThePorter]

5 minutes ago, gbenjo said:

The thing I cannot  understand is if the rest of the world can resume cruising ( safely) and their covid numbers are way higher than Australia,percentage wise, why cant we start. Yes there will be some new protocols and restrictions but they appear to be working elsewhere and don’t look to be too prohibitive for the guests. If we want to go cruising we just have to make some concessions . 

 

Vaccination rates

 

UK 58%

US 50%

Australia 15%

 

You can't do anything much without a vaccinated population.

[gbenjo]

1 minute ago, adelaidefc said:

 

Honestly it's just the vaccination rates and the acceptance of risk. In the US for example you're talking 80% of 65+ are fully vaccinated, similar in the UK. In Australia that number is still hovering around 40%. 

The vaccines don't prevent infection, they prevent serious illness, allowing the disease to become more safely endemic. 

 

In Australian, our risk tolerance is much lower when it comes to Covid. We went for Covid-Zero, and the population largely expects very few deaths from the disease, we don't seem to want to accept yet that the disease is endemic.

 

Our leaders need to start transitioning people to have less fuss about case numbers, and more on deaths and hospitalisations as vaccinations reduce these, despite high cases.

 

Once that happens, a few cases on a ship won't lead to mass media hysteria - but it should would now.   

Agreed, I think  the media have a lot to answer for in all this. What was it Joe Friday used to say in Dragnet……the facts maam, just give me the facts. They would probably like the pandemic to keep going, so many people  watching / reading that would not, normally..

[gbenjo]

8 minutes ago, GUT2407 said:

He actually said he’d backdate it, but only if he was in office by December. 

👍👍😂

[OzKiwiJJ]

7 minutes ago, adelaidefc said:

Once that happens, a few cases on a ship won't lead to mass media hysteria - but it sure would now.   

Want to bet on that? If it's on a cruise ship the media will be all over it like flies!

[adelaidefc]

1 minute ago, OzKiwiJJ said:

Want to bet on that? If it's on a cruise ship the media will be all over it like flies!

 

Hehe I think you'd take my money on that one. It's predicated on the government convincing people that new cases are not the problem, deaths and hospitalisations are. 

Right now that can't be the case because vax rates are so low, cases are still deadly. And I'm not entirely confident we'll get enough people vaccinated (estimated by some to be as high as 90-95% for all age groups) to reduce deaths from Delta to a comfortably low level. We're here for the long haul here.

[timtam2]

The new coastal cruises are already on the website and bookable.

[Chiliburn]

1 hour ago, timtam2 said:

The new coastal cruises are already on the website and bookable.

Have you seen the prices? $300 a night each for a balcony.

[mr walker]

30 minutes ago, Chiliburn said:

Have you seen the prices? $300 a night each for a balcony.

So it looks like a 5 nighter will use up our FCC which was for our 11N 2020 cruise (which was 125%). Any cruising we would do anytime in the short/medium future would have to be a balcony - not going to risk being stuck inside in event of.........

[NSWP]

41 minutes ago, Chiliburn said:

Have you seen the prices? $300 a night each for a balcony.

Too expensive.

[By The Bay]

6 hours ago, OzKiwiJJ said:

Brisbane locked down earlier enough so should see numbers dropping soon as there aren't many cases in the wild. 

I hope you are right, however the numbers are going in the wrong direction at the moment. ☹️

[OzKiwiJJ]

57 minutes ago, Chiliburn said:

Have you seen the prices? $300 a night each for a balcony.

Very expensive! I was a bit tempted by the 6 night Christmas cruise out of Sydney but decided it was too expensive.

 

I'm hoping Princess brings out some new itineraries to replace the current NZ ones and I might be tempted by one then. Especially if I can get a Plus fare which includes all drinks and internet.

[Chiliburn]

If there are cruises, they have a cornered market.

I will pay $300 a night for a booze cruise, what else are you going to do.

[OzKiwiJJ]

1 minute ago, Chiliburn said:

If there are cruises, they have a cornered market.

I will pay $300 a night for a booze cruise, what else are you going to do.

That would be $300 a night, plus all drinks in USD.