beachnag Posted August 19, 2021 #51 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Well said I enjoy sitting at a table where adults can put on a pair of pants for 2 nights in the MDR . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billslowsky Posted August 19, 2021 #52 Share Posted August 19, 2021 18 minutes ago, theotherchad said: But, in this particular context, when I see someone dressed sloppily or overly casually in the MDR, I do wonder (not judge or decide), I wonder, are they perhaps placing their own (perfectly reasonable) desire for comfort above the equally reasonable desire of others to have the pleasant, elegant experience that the cruise line is trying to engender. In other words, some folks in this argument may be indulging in snobbery, but some others may be indulging in selfishness. Just a thought. When the cruise line requires or forbids specific manners of dress - for example bathing suits - it should be enforced. When the cruise line explicitly identifies manners of dress as suggestions, people who dress more casually are not violating the dress code nor are they being selfish. They are enjoying their vacation. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theotherchad Posted August 19, 2021 #53 Share Posted August 19, 2021 45 minutes ago, billslowsky said: When the cruise line requires or forbids specific manners of dress - for example bathing suits - it should be enforced. When the cruise line explicitly identifies manners of dress as suggestions, people who dress more casually are not violating the dress code nor are they being selfish. They are enjoying their vacation. Your opinion is noted. 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billslowsky Posted August 19, 2021 #54 Share Posted August 19, 2021 20 minutes ago, theotherchad said: Your opinion is noted. 😀 Not about opinions. It's about the published dress code. Deal with it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theotherchad Posted August 19, 2021 #55 Share Posted August 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, billslowsky said: Not about opinions. It's about the published dress code. Deal with it. Alrighty then. It is a fact that they are not violating the rules. It is opinion that they are not being selfish. That sort of thing can't really be quantified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billslowsky Posted August 19, 2021 #56 Share Posted August 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, theotherchad said: Alrighty then. It is a fact that they are not violating the rules. It is opinion that they are not being selfish. That sort of thing can't really be quantified. That you or someone else does not like a rule that I am following does not make me selfish. You don't like the rule. That has nothing to do with me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonx Posted August 19, 2021 #57 Share Posted August 19, 2021 I'm going on the Mariner of the seas in a few days for a 4 day cruise. It sounds like the buffet is NOT an option for dinner. What can we eat if we only bring shorts and sandals? Will they still let us in the main dining room for dinner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph2017China Posted August 20, 2021 #58 Share Posted August 20, 2021 6 hours ago, theotherchad said: Making judgments is not the same thing as being judgmental. Making judgments is also not the same thing as making assumptions. Making judgments is how smart people get through life. Intelligent people make judgments, but they don't assume that their judgments are correct. Now, I don't attach a great deal of importance to what people wear in general, but in this particular context, the cruise line has set out some suggestions in order to achieve a specific goal. That goal is to create an elegant atmosphere. Many people enjoy being part of that atmosphere and it is definitely part of the reason that some people enjoy the cruise experience. Others don't care at all about those sorts of things. But the poster you were responding to simply noted that "people" do make judgments. Which is incontrovertibly true. And it is sad that some people do make negative and unfair judgments about others based on their clothes. They think, "look at those trashy, uncouth people." It's not fair, but those attitudes exist. Personally, I don't judge people in that way. I never assume that the outer appearance is a clear indicator of what kind of person someone is. I've lived too long and seen too many horrible people in suits and ball gowns and too many sweet, kind intelligent people in overalls and tee shirts and flip flops to think that people are anywhere near that easy to judge. But, in this particular context, when I see someone dressed sloppily or overly casually in the MDR, I do wonder (not judge or decide), I wonder, are they perhaps placing their own (perfectly reasonable) desire for comfort above the equally reasonable desire of others to have the pleasant, elegant experience that the cruise line is trying to engender. In other words, some folks in this argument may be indulging in snobbery, but some others may be indulging in selfishness. Just a thought. Watch it. Nicely put but you will be judged. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedIguana Posted August 20, 2021 #59 Share Posted August 20, 2021 On 8/18/2021 at 6:18 PM, zekekelso said: People will tend to judge a woman in a halter top and daisy dukes. Often a very positive judgement. Quickly followed by the wife judging me with the nearest hard object.... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekekelso Posted August 20, 2021 #60 Share Posted August 20, 2021 37 minutes ago, jacksonx said: I'm going on the Mariner of the seas in a few days for a 4 day cruise. It sounds like the buffet is NOT an option for dinner. What can we eat if we only bring shorts and sandals? Will they still let us in the main dining room for dinner? The dress code may be vague and enforcement lax, but I’m fairly certain they won’t let you eat topless. Best to pack some sort of shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekathy Posted August 20, 2021 #61 Share Posted August 20, 2021 33 minutes ago, jacksonx said: I'm going on the Mariner of the seas in a few days for a 4 day cruise. It sounds like the buffet is NOT an option for dinner. What can we eat if we only bring shorts and sandals? Will they still let us in the main dining room for dinner? Show up and see. A shirt will also be required to eat in the MDR. There's always the Cafe Promenade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogbay Posted August 20, 2021 #62 Share Posted August 20, 2021 50 minutes ago, jacksonx said: I'm going on the Mariner of the seas in a few days for a 4 day cruise. It sounds like the buffet is NOT an option for dinner. What can we eat if we only bring shorts and sandals? Will they still let us in the main dining room for dinner? Do you wear socks with your sandals ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingerwoppy Posted August 20, 2021 #63 Share Posted August 20, 2021 On 8/17/2021 at 9:26 AM, CeeJayPonz said: Sorry, new to RCCL. What is acceptable wear in the MDR on non-formal nights? Golf shorts, polos, and sandals...? Don't really want to dress up every night if possible. Any suggestions would be helpful for both men and women. Thanks in advance. You can wear a dress if you want. I might stare a little but as long as it's tasteful you should be ok 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyu Posted August 20, 2021 #64 Share Posted August 20, 2021 I could care a less what anyone else is wearing. My beautiful wife gets 100 percent of my attention. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billslowsky Posted August 20, 2021 #65 Share Posted August 20, 2021 35 minutes ago, Jingerwoppy said: You can wear a dress if you want. I might stare a little but as long as it's tasteful you should be ok 🙂 I was considering packing a romper. I can pull off the look. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theotherchad Posted August 20, 2021 #66 Share Posted August 20, 2021 13 hours ago, billslowsky said: I was considering packing a romper. I can pull off the look. I'd go for a festive print! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theotherchad Posted August 20, 2021 #67 Share Posted August 20, 2021 14 hours ago, Joseph2017China said: Watch it. Nicely put but you will be judged. Too late, it already happened. What's funny is that I don't know who bugs me more, the people who act as if shorts in the MDR is a sign of the apocalypse, or the ones who act as if dress codes are an unamerican commie plot to steal away their freedom to be as tacky as they wanna be. All in good fun! 😜 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph2017China Posted August 20, 2021 #68 Share Posted August 20, 2021 I remember once I was someplace where a "tie and jacket" was expected. An adult, came up, without either, and said the sign said expected. The host replied, yes, we expect you to wear a tie and jacket, else no service. You can twist "polite" words around but in the end, it still means to wear adult clothes on formal/dress you best nights. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeeJayPonz Posted August 23, 2021 Author #69 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Thanks to all of you who answered my question about the MDR dress code. Let me clear something up for some of you. I said I was new to RCCL, not CRUISING. I know how to dress formally and casually for dinner on a cruise ship. I have worn a three piece suit on formal night, dockers and polo shirts, nice shorts and a pull-over collared shirt on the non-formal nights. I didn't ask the question to "stir the pot". I just want to be as FASHIONABLY comfortable as possible on my vacation. Please don't judge me for this reply. Thanks again for all of the answers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vjmatty Posted August 24, 2021 #70 Share Posted August 24, 2021 2 hours ago, CeeJayPonz said: Thanks to all of you who answered my question about the MDR dress code. Let me clear something up for some of you. I said I was new to RCCL, not CRUISING. I know how to dress formally and casually for dinner on a cruise ship. I have worn a three piece suit on formal night, dockers and polo shirts, nice shorts and a pull-over collared shirt on the non-formal nights. I didn't ask the question to "stir the pot". I just want to be as FASHIONABLY comfortable as possible on my vacation. Please don't judge me for this reply. Thanks again for all of the answers. Thank you for qualifying as “fashionably” comfortable. Otherwise, ”comfortable” is how you keep patients with a terminal illness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare vacationlover_mn Posted August 24, 2021 #71 Share Posted August 24, 2021 On 8/17/2021 at 9:36 AM, davekathy said: I started wearing golf/polo style shirts with dockers on all evenings a few years ago. MDR/MTD no problem. Same with my DH. Personally, I wear some sort of dress each night, but not out of pressure to “fit in”- I just like to dress up each night, and like the ease of just throwing 6-7 dresses into the suitcase, instead of mix and match outfits for dinner 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karmamule Posted August 24, 2021 #72 Share Posted August 24, 2021 (edited) On 8/17/2021 at 2:02 PM, molly361 said: I've missed a good what can I wear thread😇 With the innumerable discussions on covid and vaccines and paperwork and test results, it feels delightfully nostalgic to have a simple dress code question. And, for our two cents on how we dress, we will do both chino/docker pants on casual nights as well as dress shorts plus collared short sleeve shirts. On formal nights we'll stick to casual pants (not jeans) plus dressier shoes and collared shirts. Edited August 24, 2021 by karmamule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelblu Posted August 24, 2021 #73 Share Posted August 24, 2021 (edited) On 8/17/2021 at 2:03 PM, livingonthebeach said: I've seen just about everything in the MDR. You'll be fine with shorts, polo and sandals. Unless you are wearing a swimsuit or bikini, you won't be turned away. I wear shorts many times. On some cruises out of Bayonne, I look out of place if I don't wear shorts.😀 Also, most men bathing trunks look like shorts and had no problems at breakfast or lunch, Edited August 24, 2021 by nelblu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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