Truth about dress code enforcement please, - not policy.

[zitsky]

8 minutes ago, Guppy99 said:

So, I just want to mention one thing that we all know but never talk about.  Take the same pair of Levi jeans and put them on both a 30 yr old trim fellow with a nice little butt and a 65 yr old man who shows the signs of living a good life.... and guess what?  Not the same ...at all.  So, given Celebrity's clientele, you don't see many jeans in any evening dining venue.

And some people wear skinny jeans really well but they don’t look good on me.

[Guppy99]

18 minutes ago, zitsky said:

And some people wear skinny jeans really well but they don’t look good on me.

yup....my skinny jeans days are long gone (and leggings, and jeggings etc) Have you ever wondered what magic mirror some people have at home that let's them go out in public as they do? I have and I just can't figure out how to get one.

[dkjretired]

3 hours ago, Guppy99 said:

 So, given Celebrity's clientele, you don't see many jeans in any evening dining venue.

Again, depends on itinerary, I do Caribbean, Jeans don’t see the suitcase, too hot. In Alaska more people wore Jeans than anything else. 
By the way, in Alaska,  I wore my Le Kirklands by Costco.

[WonderMan3]

9 hours ago, DirtyDawg said:

This is from X's FAQ's section;

"Smart Casual, Evening Chic is intended to be less dressy than Formal attire.

Women should feel comfortable wearing:

A cocktail dress

Skirt, pants or designer jeans with an elegant top

Men should feel comfortable wearing:

Pants or designer jeans with a dress shirt, button-down shirt or sweater

Optional sport coat or blazer

Evening Chic means that you can get glamorous and be sophisticated in your own way. If you would like to still wear a tuxedo or formal gown on Evening Chic nights, you absolutely should. ...

 

Smart Casual attire can be enjoyed every other night of your cruise.

Women should feel comfortable wearing:

Skirt, pants or jeans with a casual top

Men should feel comfortable wearing:

Pants or jeans with a short sleeve sport shirt.

 

So what's the difference between ''designer jeans' and 'jeans'?

 

 

I think their goal is for people not to show up in ripped, worn out, frayed or dirty jeans. They should probably reword to make that more clear.

[Pinboy]

16 hours ago, WonderMan3 said:

I think their goal is for people not to show up in ripped, worn out, frayed or dirty jeans. They should probably reword to make that more clear.

With due respect---

Re-wording their policy is not necessary.

Everyone knows exactly what the Company wants, but, there are some, oops many, who for some reason or another will not ( It's my right, It's my vacation, and all that other BS ).

Until the Company " supports " their Staff in enforcing their policies , nothing will change. 

LOL-- And this is serious " stuff "----Some folks in the Zenith " class " are upset because there was no one to escort them down to the front row " Reserved " section in the theater --- you know, the row that's 99% empty so the comedian won't make " fun " of their maroon plaid jacket, white flair-leg pants , etc. 

If I were in Zenith " class ", I would prefer if they " reserved " the last row in the theater , just in case we want to be first out to get a signed cd of " whomever " the performer was ( there are about 27 in our  junk drawer ), or go to the ---- .

[Salt Lifer]

As a woman, I find it funny that dress code discussions on this forum all seem to focus primarily on the men - what is a designer jean, can men wear shorts and a colored shirt, are ties required for Evening Chic, etc.  Meanwhile I - a woman - am here stressing out on if I will be under dressed with my Evening Chic attire choices (cotten dresses suitable for a nice business dinner) or if I need to dig out something more formal.  

[zitsky]

32 minutes ago, Salt Lifer said:

As a woman, I find it funny that dress code discussions on this forum all seem to focus primarily on the men - what is a designer jean, can men wear shorts and a colored shirt, are ties required for Evening Chic, etc.  Meanwhile I - a woman - am here stressing out on if I will be under dressed with my Evening Chic attire choices (cotten dresses suitable for a nice business dinner) or if I need to dig out something more formal.  

And the women get to wear ripped jeans that men would be sent away for wearing.

[farawayatsea]

Just don’t wear a hat. On my last cruise there was a clown wearing a baseball hat at dinner in Blu. It actually put me off my dinner (total over reaction I know!). 

[NutsAboutGolf]

I never understood, if the cruise lines want you to dress up, your status perks aside, why not offer free pressing for suits/tuxs/blazers/gowns to EVERYONE?  Take it a step further and leave a printout on the day of embarkment stating something like leave your items you'd like complimentary pressed hanging on your door for turndown service and it will be pressed before the first elegant night.

 

I am CC select and receive two items pressed for free, but no one advertises this nor do I know when I need to turn in my items before the first elegant night.

[Guppy99]

38 minutes ago, farawayatsea said:

Just don’t wear a hat. On my last cruise there was a clown wearing a baseball hat at dinner in Blu. It actually put me off my dinner (total over reaction I know!). 

Wearing a hat indoors at a meal is contrary to our customs, and in some places outright disrespectful and rude. And I don't want to hear it that customs should be abandoned  etc.....  Common observance of customs is one reason why we aren't just lumped in with the other animals (although every species seems to have customs they observe, and they actually ostracize those that do not).

[MamaFej]

Is it possible that the person had a reason unrelated to rudeness for wearing the hat? I remember after my uncle had melanoma surgery near his hairline. He wore a hat indoors until after he no longer needed dressings which often had oozed blood and fluid on them. He did explain why he was doing so. 

 

I promise, the sight of his hat was far less unpleasant than looking at his dressing was. 

[Guppy99]

32 minutes ago, MamaFej said:

Is it possible that the person had a reason unrelated to rudeness for wearing the hat? I remember after my uncle had melanoma surgery near his hairline. He wore a hat indoors until after he no longer needed dressings which often had oozed blood and fluid on them. He did explain why he was doing so. 

 

I promise, the sight of his hat was far less unpleasant than looking at his dressing was. 

Of course in such a case. that would be totally different. I assume that would be very unusual. 

[canderson]

I suppose the ultimate irony here is that Daniel Boulud's 'Restaurant Daniel' still rigorously enforces a dress code, where "The chef takes it as a personal affront if guests are poorly dressed." 

 

According to his regional manager, Karim Guedouar, “That’s his home, that’s his flagship, that’s his pride, that’s who he is.  Chef Daniel himself is a big protector of these rules.” 

 

Jackets are available for those who arrive without adequate preparation.  The restaurant’s 25 jackets, size 32 to 52, are made by the chef’s favorite tailor. They’re “very dark blue with gold little buttons. They’re very subtle.” says Guedouar.

 

 

 

[zitsky]

12 minutes ago, canderson said:

I suppose the ultimate irony here is that Daniel Boulud's 'Restaurant Daniel' still rigorously enforces a dress code, where "The chef takes it as a personal affront if guests are poorly dressed." 

 

According to his regional manager, Karim Guedouar, “That’s his home, that’s his flagship, that’s his pride, that’s who he is.  Chef Daniel himself is a big protector of these rules.” 

 

Jackets are available for those who arrive without adequate preparation.  The restaurant’s 25 jackets, size 32 to 52, are made by the chef’s favorite tailor. They’re “very dark blue with gold little buttons. They’re very subtle.” says Guedouar.

 

 

 

When my husband and I were on a river cruise in Lyon, we went to Paul Bocuse’s restaurant.  We wore suits.

[DirtyDawg]

On 4/10/2022 at 10:01 AM, Pinboy said:

Easy--- The Price.

Example : Roberto Cavalli jeans -- $ 1200

                   Pinboy jeans --- $ 39.99 

Talking about jeans--You know those jeans with the tears down the front of the legs-----

They were probably marketed after a manufacturer damaged 100's of yards of denim ---

He had his staff and friends ( his wife wouldn't do it ) phone stores asking if they carried the " new " style of denim jeans-- etc, etc and soon the orders started coming in. 

That's Marketing ?????

 

 

Isn't 'Roberto Cavalli' Italian for 'there's a sucker born every minute'? 🤔

 

Edited April 11, 2022 by DirtyDawg

[mfs2k]

52 minutes ago, canderson said:

I suppose the ultimate irony here is that Daniel Boulud's 'Restaurant Daniel' still rigorously enforces a dress code, where "The chef takes it as a personal affront if guests are poorly dressed." 

 

According to his regional manager, Karim Guedouar, “That’s his home, that’s his flagship, that’s his pride, that’s who he is.  Chef Daniel himself is a big protector of these rules.” 

 

Jackets are available for those who arrive without adequate preparation.  The restaurant’s 25 jackets, size 32 to 52, are made by the chef’s favorite tailor. They’re “very dark blue with gold little buttons. They’re very subtle.” says Guedouar.

 

 

 

Are jackets required in Boulud’s Le Voyage on Beyond ?

[canderson]

2 minutes ago, mfs2k said:

Are jackets required in Boulud’s Le Voyage on Beyond ?

https://www.celebritycruises.com/things-to-do-onboard/eat-and-drink/restaurants-and-cafes/le-voyage

[mfs2k]

1 minute ago, canderson said:

https://www.celebritycruises.com/things-to-do-onboard/eat-and-drink/restaurants-and-cafes/le-voyage

So … yes?

[mfs2k]

2 minutes ago, canderson said:

https://www.celebritycruises.com/things-to-do-onboard/eat-and-drink/restaurants-and-cafes/le-voyage

I have some links I want you to click on too. 

 

[canderson]

1 minute ago, mfs2k said:

So … yes?

So ... no. 

https://www.celebritycruises.com/things-to-do-onboard/eat-and-drink/restaurants-and-cafes/le-voyage

 

That said, it's Celebrity's choice, not his.

[NutsAboutGolf]

6 minutes ago, mfs2k said:

Are jackets required in Boulud’s Le Voyage on Beyond ?

 

4 minutes ago, canderson said:

https://www.celebritycruises.com/things-to-do-onboard/eat-and-drink/restaurants-and-cafes/le-voyage

 

Or...

[mfs2k]

3 minutes ago, canderson said:

https://www.celebritycruises.com/things-to-do-onboard/eat-and-drink/restaurants-and-cafes/le-voyage

You do realize virtually every question on CC could be answered by a link. But then why would I have stayed on Cruisecritic for 22 years?

no reason. 

[mfs2k]

1 hour ago, canderson said:

I suppose the ultimate irony here is that Daniel Boulud's 'Restaurant Daniel' still rigorously enforces a dress code, where "The chef takes it as a personal affront if guests are poorly dressed." 

 

According to his regional manager, Karim Guedouar, “That’s his home, that’s his flagship, that’s his pride, that’s who he is.  Chef Daniel himself is a big protector of these rules.” 

 

Jackets are available for those who arrive without adequate preparation.  The restaurant’s 25 jackets, size 32 to 52, are made by the chef’s favorite tailor. They’re “very dark blue with gold little buttons. They’re very subtle.” says Guedouar.

 

 

 

I’m confused at the relevance of Boulud’s land based restaurant dress code. 

Edited April 11, 2022 by mfs2k

[canderson]

1 minute ago, mfs2k said:

You do realize virtually every question on CC could be answered by a link. But then why would I have stayed on Cruisecritic for 22 years?

no reason. 

Yes, but given the nature of this venue, something 'direct from the horse's mouth' is often to be preferred when available.

[Pinboy]

44 minutes ago, DirtyDawg said:

Isn't 'Roberto Cavalli' Italian for 'there's a sucker born every minute'? 🤔

 

LOL---That's a " Good One " !!!

I think he owns a fancy restaurant in Toronto now.