NY Cruise Forced to Dock Because of Fight

[BoozinCroozin]

Just saw this pop across. Supposedly it was the Carnival Magic forced to dock because of a massive fight onboard.

 

https://pix11.com/news/local-news/manhattan/cruise-ship-makes-emergency-stop-off-of-manhattan-due-to-brawl/

[pe4all]

Saw it on the news.  We are boarding Magic today.  However, that is their regular docking berth when in NY.  Waiting for more details.

[Bostwick girl]

I’ve been on 39 Carnival cruises and had no idea the nightclubs were still open at 5:20 am!  Add alcohol and that’s asking for trouble, Carnival or any cruise line!  
 

[Saint Greg]

12 minutes ago, Bostwick girl said:

I’ve been on 39 Carnival cruises and had no idea the nightclubs were still open at 5:20 am!  Add alcohol and that’s asking for trouble, Carnival or any cruise line!  
 

 

Back when I used to shut down those night clubs they closed 1-3am. But I think it depended on the crowd. Those were mostly Elation and Triumph out of New Orleans in the 2014-2017 timeframe.

 

Edited June 28, 2022 by Saint Greg

[jiggs]

32 minutes ago, Saint Greg said:

 

Back when I used to shut down those night clubs they closed 1-3am. But I think it depended on the crowd. Those were mostly Elation and Triumph out of New Orleans in the 2014-2017 timeframe.

 

 

crowd size and if they're still buying drinks seems to influence closing time...similar to the table games in the casino...but past 5am seems a bit extreme, maybe people were still lingering in lounge when things went south

[Saint Greg]

2 minutes ago, jiggs said:

 

crowd size and if they're still buying drinks seems to influence closing time...similar to the table games in the casino...but past 5am seems a bit extreme, maybe people were still lingering in lounge when things went south

 

Yeah that's what I was saying. Though when I closed down the casino I had a couple times where we had a full table of blackjack going for hours and they shut us down around 2am.

[Pyxie]

They weren't forced to dock. They were already planning to dock that day and the police just met them at the pier.

 

Maybe they had to dock at a different pier though. It's not incredibly clear to me and I've never sailed out of NY.

Edited June 28, 2022 by Pyxie

[KnicksChick]

Wow I was on the June 16 cruise and the nightclub was packed. But always a good vibe.

[cmukid87]

Why on earth are people out at 3-4am.....on debarkation day?  Stupid people play stupid games and win stupid prizes.  It's those people that give cruising and specifically Carnival cruisers a bad name.  Disgusting.

[Yankeegirl49]

I got off the Magic this morning, as stated above, we weren't forced to make an unexpected stop, we just docked a little earlier than usual. 
I didnt see or hear anything but I am not surprised this happened. Carnival staff was wonderful, overall the cruise was great...BUT...many of my fellow passengers can use a lesson in common courtesy. There was lots of entitlement, lots of people who thought they didnt have to wait in line, lots of people who thought they were the only ones on the cruise and lots of people who thought rules didn't apply to them. Still had a wonderful time and a great vacation, but the rudeness was out of control. I felt bad for security who had a busy week.

[ProgRockCruiser]

1 hour ago, Yankeegirl49 said:

BUT...many of my fellow passengers can use a lesson in common courtesy. There was lots of entitlement, lots of people who thought they didnt have to wait in line, lots of people who thought they were the only ones on the cruise and lots of people who thought rules didn't apply to them.

I was gonna say something snarky like "hmm, imagine that, for a cruise out of NY/NJ" (NYC and Jersey do have a self-promoted image of being "gruff", shall we say), but sadly, it appears that rude people are everywhere.

 

It doesn't help that there are current events happening that are putting a lot of folks on edge more than usual.  I know I've been a bit off-put recently.

[Yankeegirl49]

13 minutes ago, ProgRockCruiser said:

I was gonna say something snarky like "hmm, imagine that, for a cruise out of NY/NJ" (NYC and Jersey do have a self-promoted image of being "gruff", shall we say), but sadly, it appears that rude people are everywhere.

 

It doesn't help that there are current events happening that are putting a lot of folks on edge more than usual.  I know I've been a bit off-put recently.

I am a lifelong New Yorker and I have never seen the rudeness en masse like it was on this cruise. "Gruff" is one thing, but some of what I observed went way past gruff and way past the typical new York attitude. 

[luc122]

We don’t go to the nightclub, other than maybe to have a drink just to check it

out, but early @10-11. 
 

is there any security posted inside as a usual thing?  It would seem prudent as the night goes on to preempt any minor ego driven spats from getting

out if control. 

[Can I Cruise]

Copy/pasted from a cruise group:

 

Just got off the Magic in New York. It was a great cruise! We even managed to get an NYPD and US Coast Guard escort to the dock because a couple of jerks started a fight that turned into a 60 person brawl. Its all over the news. It is my inderstanding that the people involved had tried to start fight all week and that a couple of shows had to move venues because of it. Why weren’t these people secured in the ship’s brig. This is not the first brawl on a Carnival cruise. They are going to have to deal with this swiftly and severely.

[BlerkOne]

1 hour ago, luc122 said:

We don’t go to the nightclub, other than maybe to have a drink just to check it

out, but early @10-11. 
 

is there any security posted inside as a usual thing?  It would seem prudent as the night goes on to preempt any minor ego driven spats from getting

out if control. 

Typically security is outside of the venue to verify people are old enough to go in.

[BlerkOne]

Carnival disputes they were "forced"

 

"The NYPD initially described the incident as an emergency docking, but Carnival said in a statement that the stop was scheduled all along."

[shof515]

6 minutes ago, BlerkOne said:

Carnival disputes they were "forced"

 

"The NYPD initially described the incident as an emergency docking, but Carnival said in a statement that the stop was scheduled all along."

I am confused by the news headlines like this. June 28 was the originally debarkation for the June 20 cruise that i was just on. and also June 28 is the next cruise for the magic. nothing was forced

 

If anything, maybe the "forced" thing could be that we started docking like at around 6am instead of the traditional 7ish

[BlerkOne]

38 minutes ago, shof515 said:

I am confused by the news headlines like this. June 28 was the originally debarkation for the June 20 cruise that i was just on. and also June 28 is the next cruise for the magic. nothing was forced

 

If anything, maybe the "forced" thing could be that we started docking like at around 6am instead of the traditional 7ish

Someone posted in the other tread that the Captain had announced the day before that the ship would be docking around 6am.

[bafinegan]

Yea but it makes for a better headline using those "trigger" words...🙄

[BoozinCroozin]

9 minutes ago, bafinegan said:

Yea but it makes for a better headline using those "trigger" words...🙄

I wish the sites didn't lock the videos down. I still want to see it. Like someone said, it is probably the Jerry Springer group that were involved.

[chengkp75]

4 hours ago, Can I Cruise said:

We even managed to get an NYPD and US Coast Guard escort to the dock because a couple of jerks started a fight that turned into a 60 person brawl.

Your USCG escort was not due to the brawl, it is a random escort done routinely for cruise ships.  The USCG would have no jurisdiction over a fight on the ship, unless a US citizen called them or local LEO to swear out a claim, and even then, nothing would be done without the Captain's approval for LEO to board and make arrests, except to investigate the incident afterwards.

[ladychater]

I am a Carnival cruiser, but I have to say that the worst cruise, people-wise, that I ever went on was a Carnival Caribbean cruise out of New York.  We called it the "rainbow coalition of trash" cruise.  Name any age group, race, class, ethnicity, profession, religion, etc., they each sent their most loathsome members and loaded them on that boat (kind of a reverse Noah's ark!).  From moment one, there was a large family pitching a fit in the lido swearing that their bag had been stolen, the one with EVERY MEMBER'S wallet and passport in it, and what was Carnival going to do about it (I'm assuming they were scamming to get a free cruise).  People were rude, cut lines, loud, had no social graces, no decorum, there were a lot of almost-fights breaking out.  It was vile.  I'm a New Yorker, and I hate to say bad things about my town -  I'm just hoping they were all out-of-towners!  Meanwhile, I've been on 2 New York to Canada Carnival cruises, and the clientele was LOVELY. 

 

[jetsfan58]

Our society is really trending wayward these days! There is never an excuse for disorderly conduct; no matter what the venue. What examples are we setting for our children and grandchildren? We are much better as a society and hopefully cooler heads will prevail.

 

My Carnival Cruise experience will never be distorted by those who did not learn manners at home.     

[jerseyjjs]

9 hours ago, KnicksChick said:

Wow I was on the June 16 cruise and the nightclub was packed. But always a good vibe.

 

 

The embarkation for your cruise was a nightmare to say the least.

[Janet&Carl]

"Entitled" New Yorkers hey ! not all but enough to spoil a cruise.  Cruised many times and the only one I've said never again to was one out of NYC.