Rare Turtles06 Posted July 16, 2023 #26 Share Posted July 16, 2023 28 minutes ago, navybankerteacher said: HAL recognizes that a major customer base of theirs is 65 and older - and a significant portion of that age group are hopelessly committed smokers —- who HAL does not want to write off. Looking at published statistics of smoking by age group, I’m not sure that’s the reason. I think they may be trying to attract a younger demographic: “Current cigarette smoking was highest among people aged 25–44 years and 45–64 years. Current cigarette smoking was lowest among people aged 18-24 years. About 5 of every 100 adults aged 18–24 years (5.3%) Nearly 13 of every 100 adults aged 25–44 years (12.6%) Nearly 15 of every 100 adults aged 45–64 years (14.9%) About 8 of every 100 adults aged 65 years and older (8.3%)” https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/adult_data/cig_smoking/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted July 16, 2023 #27 Share Posted July 16, 2023 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Turtles06 said: Looking at published statistics of smoking by age group, I’m not sure that’s the reason. I think they may be trying to attract a younger demographic: “Current cigarette smoking was highest among people aged 25–44 years and 45–64 years. Current cigarette smoking was lowest among people aged 18-24 years. About 5 of every 100 adults aged 18–24 years (5.3%) Nearly 13 of every 100 adults aged 25–44 years (12.6%) Nearly 15 of every 100 adults aged 45–64 years (14.9%) About 8 of every 100 adults aged 65 years and older (8.3%)” https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/adult_data/cig_smoking/index.htm Interesting statistics. They do indicate that there is a few 65 and older — who must be considered as die-hard smokers: if they are still smoking at 65, they are unlikely to ever quit- and, if cruisers, will insist on smoking being permitted. The largest group (45-64) are likely to become serious cruisers soon -their child care obligations/expenses are coming to an end. I am encouraged by the low number of 18-24’s - perhaps the education efforts are starting to pay off. Edited July 16, 2023 by navybankerteacher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruisemom42 Posted July 16, 2023 #28 Share Posted July 16, 2023 36 minutes ago, navybankerteacher said: I am encouraged by the low number of 18-24’s - perhaps the education efforts are starting to pay off. Perhaps they simply can't afford to start. Cigarettes are now around $5.50 a pack in my state, which is one of the cheapest (tobacco belt). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted July 16, 2023 #29 Share Posted July 16, 2023 1 hour ago, cruisemom42 said: Perhaps they simply can't afford to start. Cigarettes are now around $5.50 a pack in my state, which is one of the cheapest (tobacco belt). Here in CT it’s $11.60 a pack. Anyway, perhaps they are learning to selectively allocate their disposable. I got hooked in the Navy - sea stores (when out of port) were $1.00 a carton - and the rations we got for landing operations always contained a four pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenquixote66 Posted July 16, 2023 #30 Share Posted July 16, 2023 On 7/11/2023 at 6:53 PM, BruceMuzz said: I never encounter any Casino Smoke. I won't sail on a ship that has a casino - and I certainly would never go into an ocean-going casino. Ship-based Casino odds are for suckers only. The only ship I ever cruised on that did not have a casino was a Cunard ship in 1970. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekathy Posted July 16, 2023 #31 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Any cruise line/ship that allows smoking any where inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrenM Posted July 16, 2023 #32 Share Posted July 16, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, navybankerteacher said: HAL recognizes that a major customer base of theirs is 65 and older - and a significant portion of that age group are hopelessly committed smokers —- who HAL does not want to write off. So what? These hopelessly commited smokers cant smoke inside in 99.9% of places and they survive ok. Why should they be allowed to smoke inside a cuise ship? I wonder how many cruise lines would allow this once a non smoker sues after contracting cancer through passive smoking. I would at least send them my cleaning bill to rid ther clothes of the awful smell. Edited July 16, 2023 by DarrenM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted July 16, 2023 #33 Share Posted July 16, 2023 8 minutes ago, DarrenM said: So what? These hopelessly commited smokers cant smoke inside in 99.9% of places and they survive ok. Why should they be allowed to smoke inside a cuise ship? ... Personally, I do not think they should be allowed to smoke in any place which offers accommodations to other human beings. But the dollar rules . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ceeceeDee Posted July 17, 2023 #34 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Smoking in Australia is even more expensive. How about $45AUD for a pack of 25?!!! That could have a lot to do with the younger demographic not taking it up, which is a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldubs Posted July 17, 2023 #35 Share Posted July 17, 2023 3 hours ago, ceeceeDee said: Smoking in Australia is even more expensive. How about $45AUD for a pack of 25?!!! That could have a lot to do with the younger demographic not taking it up, which is a good thing. WOW. I would say that is a pretty big reason to avoid smoking for most anyone including young folk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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