Rackham Posted November 4, 2023 #876 Share Posted November 4, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, shipfriend_max said: Yes but that's from the last update in JULY 2025, obviously @SummmerInKefaloniahas the most recent programs which feature Brilliance from Piraeus, see his latest post #897 . If you want to trust a poster on a message board over the port authority in charge of the port itself, more power to you. Until Royal themselves has the sailings under question on sale, I'm trusting the people in charge of the ports. Ships might be swapped later, but at the moment, the hard evidence is pointing towards Brilliance in Amsterdam. The Cruise Port Amsterdam has the ship listed for summer 2025. Multiple ports in Iceland have the ship listed for summer 2025. If Brilliance isn't ending up there, I'll be mildly surprised. Edited November 4, 2023 by Rackham 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saab4444 Posted November 4, 2023 #877 Share Posted November 4, 2023 Hopefully they will add Jewel or even Grandeur to Europe to solve this issue... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumping Cruiser Posted November 4, 2023 #878 Share Posted November 4, 2023 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Rackham said: Ships might be swapped later, but at the moment, the hard evidence is pointing towards Brilliance in Amsterdam. The Cruise Port Amsterdam has the ship listed for summer 2025. Multiple ports in Iceland have the ship listed for summer 2025. If Brilliance isn't ending up there, I'll be mildly surprised. The data provided by Amsterdam Port Authority can be outdated and not regularly updated. The fact that recent bookings for Brilliance have been made in Athens would suggest to me that she is going there, at least from June. However, there is still potential for a short Northern Europe season, or a full one carried out by another ship. I would be highly surprised if they pull out of Amsterdam completely for 2025. Although, I do think they may have moved away from original plans, especially with recent events in Israel. Edited November 4, 2023 by Jumping Cruiser 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted November 4, 2023 #879 Share Posted November 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Ourusualbeach said: We had access at the same time. Possible a few hours early but definitely only a few hours and not days as they told you Ahh..thanks Ken. I thought that sounded very strange. 😮 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipfriend_max Posted November 4, 2023 #880 Share Posted November 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Rackham said: If you want to trust a poster on a message board over the port authority in charge of the port itself, more power to you. Until Royal themselves has the sailings under question on sale, I'm trusting the people in charge of the ports. Ships might be swapped later, but at the moment, the hard evidence is pointing towards Brilliance in Amsterdam. The Cruise Port Amsterdam has the ship listed for summer 2025. Multiple ports in Iceland have the ship listed for summer 2025. If Brilliance isn't ending up there, I'll be mildly surprised. Have a look at the cruise call schedule of Limassol, from June 2025, Brilliance is listed there regularly: https://limassolcruise.com/wp-content/uploads/limassolcruise/2023/10/Cruise-Schedule_2023_2024_2025.pdf those calls are newer than the Amsterdam calls which existed for a while already. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipfriend_max Posted November 4, 2023 #881 Share Posted November 4, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Saab4444 said: Hopefully they will add Jewel or even Grandeur to Europe to solve this issue... That’s what I also hope. I mean such Northern Europe cruises with North Cape, around UK and Iceland seem to work well for other lines like Princess, HAL, Celebrity, NCL, even Carnival, so I’m wondering that RCI should have trouble selling those cruises? I mean now that the Amsterdam program in 2024 will even be extended, due to recent happenings in Israel… okay and originally the program was scheduled until august 2024 for Northern Europe. Edited November 4, 2023 by shipfriend_max Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumping Cruiser Posted November 5, 2023 #882 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Ponta Delgada, Azores - Port Bookings (Correct as of 05/11/23) A few dates have been updated recently for Brilliance OTS, Independence OTS and Odyssey OTS. May I also point out that the destination port for Brilliance has changed to Cadiz. 21st April 2025 - Brilliance OTS. *UPDATED* 27th April 2025 - Jewel OTS 3rd May 2025 - Odyssey OTS. *UPDATED* 6th May 2025 - Independence OTS 7th May 2025 - Explorer OTS 10th May 2025 - Voyager OTS 8th August 2025 - Independence OTS 21st October 2025 - Explorer OTS 22nd October 2025 - Independence OTS. *UPDATED* 29th October 2025 - Odyssey OTS 6th November 2025 - Explorer OTS 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumping Cruiser Posted November 5, 2023 #883 Share Posted November 5, 2023 18 hours ago, shipfriend_max said: Have a look at the cruise call schedule of Limassol, from June 2025, Brilliance is listed there regularly: https://limassolcruise.com/wp-content/uploads/limassolcruise/2023/10/Cruise-Schedule_2023_2024_2025.pdf those calls are newer than the Amsterdam calls which existed for a while already. Brilliance also has an updated TA call in Ponta Delgada, which now shows destination as Cadiz, suggesting she is entering the Med. Definitely a change of plans here and more confirmation that she is indeed headed to Eastern Mediterranean. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipfriend_max Posted November 5, 2023 #884 Share Posted November 5, 2023 57 minutes ago, Jumping Cruiser said: Brilliance also has an updated TA call in Ponta Delgada, which now shows destination as Cadiz, suggesting she is entering the Med. Definitely a change of plans here and more confirmation that she is indeed headed to Eastern Mediterranean. Yes sadly, I would have loved having her in Amsterdam and coming to the Baltic Sea. But I hope for Jewel of the Seas sailing out of Amsterdam or maybe even Grandeur otS. Better than nothing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saab4444 Posted November 5, 2023 #885 Share Posted November 5, 2023 39 minutes ago, shipfriend_max said: Yes sadly, I would have loved having her in Amsterdam and coming to the Baltic Sea. But I hope for Jewel of the Seas sailing out of Amsterdam or maybe even Grandeur otS. Better than nothing... It should be Jewel in Amsterdam again as she is also on the Ponta Delgada schedule so she is not staying in the Caribbean as originally planned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumping Cruiser Posted November 5, 2023 #886 Share Posted November 5, 2023 12 minutes ago, Saab4444 said: It should be Jewel in Amsterdam again as she is also on the Ponta Delgada schedule so she is not staying in the Caribbean as originally planned! Jewel has been on there since the beginning, even before Brilliance. It is possible that it may just be an old booking, but if Royal bring any ship to Amsterdam, my money would be on Jewel. However, she is currently on port schedules in Key West over the Summer, but could these be taken over by Grandeur? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipfriend_max Posted November 5, 2023 #887 Share Posted November 5, 2023 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Saab4444 said: It should be Jewel in Amsterdam again as she is also on the Ponta Delgada schedule so she is not staying in the Caribbean as originally planned! Any link to the Ponta Delgada port schedule? That would be helpful!! Edited November 5, 2023 by shipfriend_max Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipfriend_max Posted November 5, 2023 #888 Share Posted November 5, 2023 56 minutes ago, Saab4444 said: It should be Jewel in Amsterdam again as she is also on the Ponta Delgada schedule so she is not staying in the Caribbean as originally planned! Edit: found the port schedule of Ponta Delgada, it is listed there the 27th of April additionally to Brilliance otS the 21st of April 2025. So that MIGHT be an indication that Jewel comes to Amsterdam. Fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipfriend_max Posted November 5, 2023 #889 Share Posted November 5, 2023 50 minutes ago, Jumping Cruiser said: but could these be taken over by Grandeur? Could well be! Took a look at the Key West cruise schedule and Grandeur is listed there, and end of August 2025 I found one call of Jewel otS and the day after Grandeur otS. That could very well be that the Jewel otS call is the old one taken over by Grandeur, but just one day later. Apart from that I did not find any call of Jewel otS anymore but Grandeur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rew wellies Posted November 5, 2023 #890 Share Posted November 5, 2023 On 11/4/2023 at 6:10 PM, shipfriend_max said: Nothing from Amsterdam? 😞 Didn’t they vote for no more Cruise Ships being allowed to enter their main port in July of this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted November 5, 2023 #891 Share Posted November 5, 2023 1 hour ago, rew wellies said: Didn’t they vote for no more Cruise Ships being allowed to enter their main port in July of this year. They voted for it, but I don't think it was an immediate change until they had a new place for ships to go outside of the downtown area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreasfcb Posted November 6, 2023 #892 Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 hour ago, smokeybandit said: They voted for it, but I don't think it was an immediate change until they had a new place for ships to go outside of the downtown area. I think they already do have a place. One time we had to get off our cruise (Vision British Isles) well outside Amsterdam (somewhere North West of the city). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted November 6, 2023 #893 Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 hour ago, andreasfcb said: I think they already do have a place. One time we had to get off our cruise (Vision British Isles) well outside Amsterdam (somewhere North West of the city). Was that just a port stop or a place to embark and disembark a whole ship with luggage, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saab4444 Posted November 6, 2023 #894 Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, andreasfcb said: I think they already do have a place. One time we had to get off our cruise (Vision British Isles) well outside Amsterdam (somewhere North West of the city). That might have been Ijmuiden, the city further down the river where the locks to the Northsea are. Ferries and some cruise ships dock there. A new terminal in Amsterdam still has to be built. Many bigger ships are changing from Ansterdam to Rotterdam, Celebrity as well. Edited November 6, 2023 by Saab4444 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare little britain Posted November 6, 2023 #895 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Amateur question…🫣 what time do the new itineraries drop? I need to book my appointment on Wednesday with Next Cruise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted November 6, 2023 #896 Share Posted November 6, 2023 20 minutes ago, little britain said: Amateur question…🫣 what time do the new itineraries drop? I need to book my appointment on Wednesday with Next Cruise! Couldn't you just book online on Royal's site and later when you get home transfer the bookings to your travel agent. Getting the timing right while being onboard may be a huge problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted November 6, 2023 #897 Share Posted November 6, 2023 56 minutes ago, little britain said: Amateur question…🫣 what time do the new itineraries drop? I need to book my appointment on Wednesday with Next Cruise! I booked 2025 Alaska B2B last week, while here on Wonder. 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare little britain Posted November 6, 2023 #898 Share Posted November 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, island lady said: I booked 2025 Alaska B2B last week, while here on Wonder. 🙂 I’m waiting for Arctic Circle ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted November 6, 2023 #899 Share Posted November 6, 2023 7 minutes ago, island lady said: The wishes of the locals were over ruled by our governor. No I did not vote for him...and am not a fan of the man. I believe that poster was talking about the Amsterdam Port, who are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-leg5 Posted November 6, 2023 #900 Share Posted November 6, 2023 8 minutes ago, island lady said: The wishes of the locals were over ruled by our governor. No I did not vote for him...and am not a fan of the man. He may consider himself powerful but I doubt he has much say in Amsterdam. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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