DutchCruiseFan Posted August 20 #1 Share Posted August 20 At NCL's Q2 earning presentation, they revealed the new class of ships to come in at approximately 225.000 tonnes. For reference, this is as big as Oasis and Allure of the Seas. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dexddd Posted August 20 #2 Share Posted August 20 Any mention of plan for oldest ships? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Wheels Only Posted August 20 #3 Share Posted August 20 Any mention of the GSC pier? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ontheweb Posted August 20 #4 Share Posted August 20 3 hours ago, DutchCruiseFan said: At NCL's Q2 earning presentation, they revealed the new class of ships to come in at approximately 225.000 tonnes. For reference, this is as big as Oasis and Allure of the Seas. No thanks, not interested, in ships with a capacity of over 5000 passengers. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesea777 Posted August 20 #5 Share Posted August 20 3 hours ago, dexddd said: Any mention of plan for oldest ships? Please NCL, leave the Spirit alone!! Meaning, keep the Spirit!! 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yakcruiser Posted August 20 #6 Share Posted August 20 Too bad they don't announce 4 new 75000-90000 ton ships to replace the Star, Dawn, Sun and Sky. The new behemoth class will be so limited in where they can dock. Especially when most of the cruise ports are complaining of overtourism. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panhandle Couple Posted August 20 #7 Share Posted August 20 26 minutes ago, yakcruiser said: Too bad they don't announce 4 new 75000-90000 ton ships to replace the Star, Dawn, Sun and Sky. The new behemoth class will be so limited in where they can dock. Especially when most of the cruise ports are complaining of overtourism. I think the Jewel class is what replaces them once the NCL Behemoth launches. NCL has used those ships as collateral on debt 2 years ago. By NCL's payment schedule, all of the COVID debt should be paid off by 2030, along with Breakaway, Getaway and Escape. That will allow financing for Behemoth class 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesea777 Posted August 20 #8 Share Posted August 20 4 hours ago, yakcruiser said: Too bad they don't announce 4 new 75000-90000 ton ships to replace the Star, Dawn, Sun and Sky. The new behemoth class will be so limited in where they can dock. Especially when most of the cruise ports are complaining of overtourism. So true!! Mind boggling of NCL's to do that! NCL please, keep all 4 of your JEWEL class ships!! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Anoynmous Phoenix Posted August 20 #9 Share Posted August 20 SMALL ships NOT BIG ships 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Wheels Only Posted August 20 #10 Share Posted August 20 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Anoynmous Phoenix said: SMALL ships NOT BIG ships Maybe NCLH wants some NCL guests to look to Oceania and Regent SS while also trying to lure some RCCL Oasis Class and ICON Class guests to NCL. Edited August 20 by Two Wheels Only 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaShark Posted August 20 #11 Share Posted August 20 53 minutes ago, Anoynmous Phoenix said: SMALL ships NOT BIG ships Ironic that you didn't use a small font to make that point. 1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Traveling Man Posted August 20 #12 Share Posted August 20 17 minutes ago, Two Wheels Only said: Maybe NCLH wants some NCL guests to look to Oceania and Regent SS while also trying to lure some RCCL Oasis Class and ICON Class guests to NCL. If NCLH would match my Latitudes status with whatever loyalty programs they have on Oceania and Regent, I'd be more inclined to consider those cruise lines. 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Traveling Man Posted August 20 #13 Share Posted August 20 10 hours ago, DutchCruiseFan said: At NCL's Q2 earning presentation, they revealed the new class of ships to come in at approximately 225.000 tonnes. For reference, this is as big as Oasis and Allure of the Seas. So, roughly 3100 pax on Pr1ma, about 3200 pax on V!va, almost 3600 on Aqua and the following Pr1ma class ship, then close to 3900 on each of the two methanol Pr1ma class ships, and finally jumping up to 5100 pax on everything on the drawing board after that. That's quite a departure from the "smaller is better" mantra that NCL was touting prior to COVID as the new vision for their ships. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Traveling Man Posted August 20 #14 Share Posted August 20 11 hours ago, DutchCruiseFan said: At NCL's Q2 earning presentation, they revealed the new class of ships to come in at approximately 225.000 tonnes. For reference, this is as big as Oasis and Allure of the Seas. An open question to all who may wish to speculate: How do you think NCL plans to fit all those additional passengers on the last few Pr1ma class ships? Will they add an additional deck? Will they make the ship longer by squeezing in an additional section somewhere around midship? Will they convert more of the common areas such as the observation lounge, game room, etc. into staterooms? Inquiring minds want to know. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seemoreroyals Posted August 20 #15 Share Posted August 20 29 minutes ago, The Traveling Man said: If NCLH would match my Latitudes status with whatever loyalty programs they have on Oceania and Regent, I'd be more inclined to consider those cruise lines. No latitudes matching? We would look at Oceania and/or Regent as well if they would do that. Do they even have a latitudes program for these other two cruise divisions of NCL? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Wheels Only Posted August 20 #16 Share Posted August 20 7 minutes ago, seemoreroyals said: Do they even have a latitudes program for these other two cruise divisions of NCL? https://oceaniacruises.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360006778953-Does-Oceania-Cruises-offer-a-loyalty-program https://www.rssc.com/seven-seas-society#benefits 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mking8288 Posted August 20 #17 Share Posted August 20 One of the recent 3 questions "NCL Inner Circles" survey has to do with this (see below) - which I know and sure that more than a few of us received them ... trending is for bigger & larger ships, not going smaller. We can all wish, hope and dream about it, sadly - not going to happen anytime soon. FWIW, not endorsing and encouraging NCL in the way things are going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seemoreroyals Posted August 20 #18 Share Posted August 20 14 minutes ago, Two Wheels Only said: https://oceaniacruises.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360006778953-Does-Oceania-Cruises-offer-a-loyalty-program https://www.rssc.com/seven-seas-society#benefits The link you posted really does not provide much. Last updated in Summer of 2018. NCL has a large customer base to grow their smaller cruise lines if they put forth the right effort. Maybe the two smaller cruise lines are constantly full and they do not need any more passengers for them. We would be a prime candidate to give Oceania or Regent a try but they are going to have to put forth a better marketing effort in order to hook us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Wheels Only Posted August 20 #19 Share Posted August 20 20 minutes ago, seemoreroyals said: The link you posted really does not provide much. Last updated in Summer of 2018. https://thepointsguy.com/guide/oceania-cruises-loyalty-program/ More recent with more info. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
complawyer Posted August 20 #20 Share Posted August 20 by the time the new ships roll out, at the earliest i'll be 82, at the latest 88. by that time frankly Scarlett, I wont give a **** 3 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yakcruiser Posted August 21 #21 Share Posted August 21 1 hour ago, seemoreroyals said: We would be a prime candidate to give Oceania or Regent a try but they are going to have to put forth a better marketing effort in order to hook us. Oceania might be a possibility someday, but Regent is out of my league. I am sure they have some kind of filter on their booking site to keep riff raff like me off their ship anyway. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare luv2kroooz Posted August 21 #22 Share Posted August 21 This up sizing is long overdue....not from a personal preference....we actually don't like the large ships, but NCL has no choice but to copy the competition. It is the model that has proven to make the most money. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ontheweb Posted August 21 #23 Share Posted August 21 11 hours ago, The Traveling Man said: An open question to all who may wish to speculate: How do you think NCL plans to fit all those additional passengers on the last few Pr1ma class ships? Will they add an additional deck? Will they make the ship longer by squeezing in an additional section somewhere around midship? Will they convert more of the common areas such as the observation lounge, game room, etc. into staterooms? Inquiring minds want to know. All good questions. I think whatever they do will take the uniqueness and charm out of the Prima class of ships. JMHO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dexddd Posted August 21 #24 Share Posted August 21 My guess, thoughts, they reduce main theater for more rooms. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capitan Obvious Posted August 21 #25 Share Posted August 21 14 hours ago, The Traveling Man said: An open question to all who may wish to speculate: How do you think NCL plans to fit all those additional passengers on the last few Pr1ma class ships? Will they add an additional deck? Will they make the ship longer by squeezing in an additional section somewhere around midship? Will they convert more of the common areas such as the observation lounge, game room, etc. into staterooms? Inquiring minds want to know. I just thought that they'd use the fact that the ships are larger. Prima is 143,535GT and holds 3,099 Aqua is 156,000GT and holds 3,550 The last two will be 169,000GT and will hold 3,850 The additional room will hold the additional guests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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