News: Another Major Line to Restrict Onboard Smoking

[taxmantoo]

Another positive step in the right direction... Easier to see every day who will eventually come up on top of this battle :D

 

Citing changing passenger preferences, Norwegian Cruise Line has announced that it will prohibit smoking in cabins.

 

The new policy takes effect January 2012. Smoking on balconies will still be allowed; however, cigar and pipe smoking in cabins and on balconies will be prohibited.

 

NCL's announcement comes less than two months after Carnival Cruise Lines, Holland America and Princess Cruises revealed that more restrictive smoking policies were on tap.

 

Norwegian's smoking policy already prohibits lighting up in all indoor spaces except the casino, where ashtrays and appropriate signage are displayed. Naturally, cigarette, cigar and pipe smoking will still be allowed in enclosed cigar bars found on Norwegian Epic, Norwegian Gem, Norwegian Pearl, Norwegian Dawn and Norwegian Spirit.

 

Additionally, per current policy, passengers are allowed to smoke cigarettes, cigars and pipes in outdoor public spaces and open decks, where designated by the appropriate signage. This will not change.

[MrCruze]

This is the way things are moving. My province in Canada has been smoke free for about a decade and it is always a shock when I travel because I am so used to everything being smoke-free.

[Krazy Kruizers]

Thanks for the information.

Just wish HAL would stop ALL smoking on the balconies/verandahs.

All of our restaurants here can't even have smoking out on their patios -- it is the law.

[tip]

Thanks for the information.

 

Just wish HAL would stop ALL smoking on the balconies/verandahs.

 

 

So do I. It is the 21st Century.

[CinWin]

I also wish HAL would forbid smoking on verandas. I've had a couple of cruises spoiled for me when the smoke from the people next to our cabin seemed to be always out smoking on their veranda when we were on ours. :eek:

The next cruise we take after this one on Nieuw Amsterdan will be on a ship whose cruiseline does not permit smoking on verandas.

Cindy

[eh2zed]

NCL may be responding to their customer preferences but I suspect it has everything to do with Carnival family of cruise lines recent announcements. With all other major NA lines including RCi's RCCL , Celebrity and Azamara,being more restrictive, NCL simply could not afford to become the preferred line for smoking clientele. This would have started a downward spiral of non smokers leaving and smokers arriving from and to their line. This is the same reaction that has occured in other hospitality industries in regards to shifting smoking policies.

NCL's decision is pre-emptive and defensive. Its simply good business.

[Himself]

I am a non smoker and have been for over 19 years. That being said, I think the Pendulem is swinging too far to one side. We have gone from the extreme that one could smoke anywhere to smokers can smoke no where.

[IRL_Joanie]

I am a non smoker and have been for over 19 years. That being said, I think the Pendulem is swinging too far to one side. We have gone from the extreme that one could smoke anywhere to smokers can smoke no where.

 

Thank you!! My thoughts also:(

 

Joanie

[Richie2pies]

It would seem some people want to ban smoking EVERYWHERE. If it happens, they will find some other cause to espouse. These same people would be the first to complain if something THEY liked were to be frowned upon. Too much "Big Brother" going on in this world.

[Beebob1]

Seems clear as a bell to me! If anyone doesn't want to smell smoke on a balcony then don't book one, if you do then don't complain. It is clear as a bell where smokers can smoke. Leave balconies for smokers or those who don't mind. NCL has set the rules take the matter up with them not a smoker.

[Bramcruiser]

It seems this topic is always being discussed ad infinitum. Its old and so are the constant discussions that go in circle until one of these threads get locked.

[erewhon]

Thanks for the information.

 

Just wish HAL would stop ALL smoking on the balconies/verandahs.

 

 

It would have been very easy for HAL to ban smoking on balconies/verandahs.

[startwin]

Seems clear as a bell to me! If anyone doesn't want to smell smoke on a balcony then don't book one, if you do then don't complain. It is clear as a bell where smokers can smoke. Leave balconies for smokers or those who don't mind. NCL has set the rules take the matter up with them not a smoker.

 

So using your logic, the balconies are off-limits to non-smokers and those who prefer fresh air. That kind of smokers attitude is prevalent all around us... roads, beaches, sidewalks, parks - cigarette butts everywhere.

 

Clear as a bell.... leave the balconies for those who enjoy fresh air. Keep the pollution inside your own home.

[Beebob1]

So using your logic, the balconies are off-limits to non-smokers and those who prefer fresh air. That kind of smokers attitude is prevalent all around us... roads, beaches, sidewalks, parks - cigarette butts everywhere.

 

Clear as a bell.... leave the balconies for those who enjoy fresh air. Keep the pollution inside your own home.

 

Not my logic NCL made the rules about balconies. Take it up with them :)

[JamesEM]

I live in the smoking free zone of the US, SC, where there are very few restictions on smoking, yet most business restict smoking.

[tip]

So using your logic, the balconies are off-limits to non-smokers and those who prefer fresh air. That kind of smokers attitude is prevalent all around us... roads, beaches, sidewalks, parks - cigarette butts everywhere.

 

Clear as a bell.... leave the balconies for those who enjoy fresh air. Keep the pollution inside your own home.

 

Well said! It is certainly not "Big Brother" to expect clean air!

[Topsham]

I do not understand why the casinos on board HAL ships remain smoking areas. As the non smokers definitely outnumber those that do I wonder why HAL effectively giver over one of their major revenure earning areas to the smaller group?

[catl331]

... yet most business restict smoking.

Most likely because smoking costs many if not most businesses in a variety of ways.

[LorraineP]

On a couple cruises on adjoining balconies we found it annoying to sit on our balcony while next to us there was cigarette and cigar smoking. Why not have the balconies on one side of the ship for smokers so they don't annoy those who pay for the fresh ocean air and not secondhand smoke. Nothing like sitting on your balcony having morning coffee and next balcony over someone is smoking a cigar.

[secrui]

I do not understand why the casinos on board HAL ships remain smoking areas. As the non smokers definitely outnumber those that do I wonder why HAL effectively giver over one of their major revenure earning areas to the smaller group?

 

In answer to your question, my wife and I took a cruise on the CARNIVAL PARADISE when it was an entirely non-smoking ship. We are nonsmokers and enjoyed the cruise. However, you could have rolled a bowling ball through the bars and casino, and hit almost nobody. CARNIVAL at some point returned the PARADISE to a smoking limited ship. I was told that, in general, a significantly greater percentage of smokers frequent bars and casinos than nonsmokers. Even though you correctly observe that nonsmokers definitely outnumber smokers, it's not enough to make up the lost revenue that comes from banning smoking in casinos.

[Charles4515]

I do not understand why the casinos on board HAL ships remain smoking areas. As the non smokers definitely outnumber those that do I wonder why HAL effectively giver over one of their major revenure earning areas to the smaller group?

 

I think they might believe the stereotype that non smokers don't gamble. I don't use the casino on HAL only because I can't stand the smoke and smell. I have been on one Celebrity cruise since they made their casinos non smoking and the casino was packed on that Celebrity ship. And the casino was much larger than the Veendam casino.

[sail7seas]

I live in the smoking free zone of the US, SC, where there are very few restictions on smoking, yet most business restict smoking.

 

 

:rolleyes: What a shock. :eek:

Private businesses have more sense than government. ;)

[sail7seas]

I think they might believe the stereotype that non smokers don't gamble. I don't use the casino on HAL only because I can't stand the smoke and smell. I have been on one Celebrity cruise since they made their casinos non smoking and the casino was packed on that Celebrity ship. And the casino was much larger than the Veendam casino.

 

 

If they are counting how many smokers vs non-smokers use the casino, they have to know they are getting a skewed number.

 

MANY non-smokers do not use the casino ONLY because they can't stand the smoke.

 

I always used to play slot machines and sometimes roulette and had fun doing so. I no longer use the casino at all as the smoke chases me out. If I could play without getting hit with that stench, I would play again.

[flashopper]

I do not smoke and hate the smell. I will never use the casino or other smoking area where the cruiseline makes their most money. I understand that some people have to have their addiction. It is very sad that they feel this is a "right" My sister died because of a smoker that felt it was her rught.

[Wayfairers]

Most other things that are deadly are completely banned... asbestos, driving without a seatbelt... why not smoking? That is why I think it should be banned.

 

I understand that it is a very addictive habit and many who currently smoke started smoking before anyone knew of the health problems associated with smoking. But, I don't understand why people my age (40s) and younger started smoking when they know it can kill you or shorten your life or degrade your life significantly. My father-in-law quit smoking about 20 years ago as soon as the doctor found early signs of lung damage. Now he has COPD.