reney313 Posted November 15, 2013 #676 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Hey there! I am on the sailing January 19th. My itinerary says 11am to 7pm for St. Thomas. Sent from my SGH-I317M using Tapatalk The press release states the following: Allure of the Seas will now call on Nassau, Bahamas, from 7:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. and on Charlotte Amalie, St. Thomas, from 11:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. There is no need to modify Allure of the Seas' western Caribbean itineraries." My original itinerary showed St. Thomas from 10:00am-7:00pm, but does show 11:00-7:00 now. I thought the recent cruises were showing up later than normal and leaving about 30 minutes early? I think I'm doing a good job of confusing myself. LOL. The extra few hours won't make a difference. I'm just wondering why they say 5:00 now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pharmguy83 Posted November 15, 2013 #677 Share Posted November 15, 2013 The press release states the following:Allure of the Seas will now call on Nassau, Bahamas, from 7:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. and on Charlotte Amalie, St. Thomas, from 11:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. There is no need to modify Allure of the Seas' western Caribbean itineraries." My original itinerary showed St. Thomas from 10:00am-7:00pm, but does show 11:00-7:00 now. I thought the recent cruises were showing up later than normal and leaving about 30 minutes early? I think I'm doing a good job of confusing myself. LOL. The extra few hours won't make a difference. I'm just wondering why they say 5:00 now? Haha mad confusion now! I think it may be a miscommunication??? Maybe? I think the last couple sailings left St. Thomas at around 6:45pm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeski27 Posted November 15, 2013 #678 Share Posted November 15, 2013 I hope this was an error... They state for the revised itinerary for Eastern: St. Thomas, from 11:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m I thought they have been there 11:00-11:30 and all aboard at 6:30, leaving at 7:00. There hasn't been an issue getting into St. Martin on time. I'm not sure why they would move it up to 5:00 (or 4:30 all aboard). Its a screw up, no doubt. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eng23 Posted November 15, 2013 #679 Share Posted November 15, 2013 I hope we get to see some photo's when they put the Allure in the dry dock. It will be truly interesting to see that large of a vessel in such a small dry dock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilyclub Posted November 15, 2013 Author #680 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Allure may have V series pods, but perhaps they incorporated some of the newer technology where changing a bearing can be donein the water. I'm sure the rumors on how the pod will be fixed have already started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-legs Posted November 15, 2013 #681 Share Posted November 15, 2013 My opinion only. 1/ The type of repairs ultimately isolated ( premature wearing of a thrust bearing....an old woe with azipod equipement ) can only be remedied during a drydock visit . 2/ The Grand Bahama Shipyard's largest dock ( dock # 3 ) is 1,017' long. The Oasis/Allure are 1,181' long. Why had RCL decided to sail Oasis all the way to Europe for her next scheduled routine/upgrade drydcok visit, 2014 ?? Easy to presume there simply are no yard on our Continent with a drydock long enough for her.... Back to #1 above...and let's do the maths. As a previous poster stated, '' the engineering surely has figured it out''... I suggest GBSY is working on a dredging solution which would produce ~~ 180' additionnal drydocking space to deck #3......thus the February 23rd booking for Allure, although it's clear what's needed now..... I also offer the opinion this would benefit GBSY in the long run, allowing it to bid on drydock work for ships in the '' 1150-1175' long'' category. i=e QM2 , the 3rd ''Oasis'' to come in '16, The Quantum class which I beleive are over 1100' long ( could be wrong...) Again MY OPINION only. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eng23 Posted November 15, 2013 #682 Share Posted November 15, 2013 My opinion only. 1/ The type of repairs ultimately isolated ( premature wearing of a thrust bearing....an old woe with azipod equipement ) can only be remedied during a drydock visit . 2/ The Grand Bahama Shipyard's largest dock ( dock # 3 ) is 1,017' long. The Oasis/Allure are 1,181' long. Why had RCL decided to sail Oasis all the way to Europe for her next scheduled routine/upgrade drydcok visit, 2014 ?? Easy to presume there simply are no yard on our Continent with a drydock long enough for her.... Back to #1 above...and let's do the maths. As a previous poster stated, '' the engineering surely has figured it out''... I suggest GBSY is working on a dredging solution which would produce ~~ 180' additionnal drydocking space to deck #3......thus the February 23rd booking for Allure, although it's clear what's needed now..... I also offer the opinion this would benefit GBSY in the long run, allowing it to bid on drydock work for ships in the '' 1150-1175' long'' category. i=e QM2 , the 3rd ''Oasis'' to come in '16, The Quantum class which I beleive are over 1100' long ( could be wrong...) Again MY OPINION only. Cheers Most of your opinions are pretty accurate. As I mentioned it will be interesting to see how this repair job is going to be completed and how the logistics of dry docking a ship that is obviously bigger than the dry dock shapes up. I'm gonna speculate that the Oasis and Allure are going to Europe for their 5 year maintenance based on 2 things: Royal negotiated a good package price for the two ships and there was more available dry dock space in Europe. I am almost sure that the only private shipyard in the US with a dry dock large enough for Oasis/Allure is Newport News Shipbuilding in Virginia. The main reason Newport News was not chosen is due to the large amount of work done for the US Navy. This shipyards dry docks stay full most of the year doing repair work on aircraft carriers and submarines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilyclub Posted November 15, 2013 Author #683 Share Posted November 15, 2013 (edited) Type:Cruise shipTonnage:167,800 GT[2]Length:348 m (1,142 ft)[3]Beam:41 m (135 ft)[3]Draught:8.5 m (28 ft)[2]Decks:18[4] (16 passenger-accessible)[2]Propulsion:Diesel-electric Two 20.5 MW (27,500 hp) ABB Azipod XO thrusters[5] Four 3,500 kW (4,694 hp) bow thrusters[2]Speed:22 knots (41 km/h; 25 mph)[3]Capacity:4,180 passengers (double occupancy)[2] 4,905 passengers (maximum occupancy) Edited November 15, 2013 by bilyclub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted November 15, 2013 #684 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Most of your opinions are pretty accurate. As I mentioned it will be interesting to see how this repair job is going to be completed and how the logistics of dry docking a ship that is obviously bigger than the dry dock shapes up. I'm gonna speculate that the Oasis and Allure are going to Europe for their 5 year maintenance based on 2 things: Royal negotiated a good package price for the two ships and there was more available dry dock space in Europe. I am almost sure that the only private shipyard in the US with a dry dock large enough for Oasis/Allure is Newport News Shipbuilding in Virginia. The main reason Newport News was not chosen is due to the large amount of work done for the US Navy. This shipyards dry docks stay full most of the year doing repair work on aircraft carriers and submarines. Actually, most shipyards in the states that handle Navy work are not interested in commercial ship repair work. The scheduling, estimating, and cost structures are so different that the yards prefer to deal with long term work on cost plus basis. Additionally, the cost of docking in the states is much greater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare A&L_Ont Posted November 15, 2013 #685 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Its a screw up, no doubt. ;) For sure. They don't need extra time to sail to St Martin from St Thomas. Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eng23 Posted November 15, 2013 #686 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Actually, most shipyards in the states that handle Navy work are not interested in commercial ship repair work. The scheduling, estimating, and cost structures are so different that the yards prefer to deal with long term work on cost plus basis. Additionally, the cost of docking in the states is much greater. Also a good point. Sent using the Cruise Critic forums app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pescatch Posted November 15, 2013 #687 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Has anyone read CC's article about this? Not quite sure why these reports keep stating that the the Allure and Oasis are switching dry docks. Oasis was never scheduled to have work done in Feb to my knowledge and most certainly not in the Bahamas. Has anyone seen anything regarding them switching in sept/oct? http://www.cruisecritic.com/news/news.cfm?ID=5616 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thetrail Posted November 15, 2013 #688 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Has anyone read CC's article about this? Not quite sure why these reports keep stating that the the Allure and Oasis are switching dry docks. Oasis was never scheduled to have work done in Feb to my knowledge and most certainly not in the Bahamas. Has anyone seen anything regarding them switching in sept/oct? http://www.cruisecritic.com/news/news.cfm?ID=5616 Thats the week Allure will be taken out of service for drydock to fix the azipod issue.....K.O....:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButterBeanMcGee Posted November 15, 2013 #689 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Has anyone read CC's article about this? Not quite sure why these reports keep stating that the the Allure and Oasis are switching dry docks. Oasis was never scheduled to have work done in Feb to my knowledge and most certainly not in the Bahamas. Has anyone seen anything regarding them switching in sept/oct? http://www.cruisecritic.com/news/news.cfm?ID=5616 Yeah CC seems to have misinformation in that first paragraph. Allure is going in for repairs, not regular maintenance. So I would assume the *maintenance* drydock schedule for both Oasis and Allure will remain the same. Oasis in 2014 and Allure in 2015. Here is the actual Press Release from Royal Caribbean; http://www.royalcaribbeanpresscenter.com/press-release/1050/royal-caribbean-announces-allure-of-the-seas-will-undergo-repairs-in-february-2014/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjldvlks Posted November 15, 2013 #690 Share Posted November 15, 2013 There were publicized comments a few days ago where Fain said they were considering switching the scheduled dry docks. Obviously that would be a great solution in the sense that it would avoid any overall cancellations. But since Oasis is scheduled in Sept/Oct in Europe, they obviously decided the Allure repairs couldn't wait and/or they didn't want to send her to Europe in her present condition. So the CC article takes 2+2 and come up with 3.5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reedl Posted November 15, 2013 #691 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Looking at the recent post about the cancelled cruise, I was right about the bearing wear! If you remember, I was the first to post that it was in fact bearings that were the issue! Now, maybe when I state a fact, people will realize that I know what I am talking about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichBuckeye Posted November 15, 2013 #692 Share Posted November 15, 2013 We are booked on the March 2nd sailing (immediately following the repair week). Wondering if there will be any impact to that schedule as well. Good or bad. Thinking positively, perhaps earlier boarding on the 2nd... Assume Royal Caribbean will use this "down" week for other maintenance/upkeep/enhancements while the ship is clear of passengers. Might they announce this too? Just curious. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richmar Posted November 15, 2013 #693 Share Posted November 15, 2013 This was in today's Miami Herald: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/11/14/3753728/allure-of-the-seas-scheduled-for.html We're leaving on the Allure this Sunday, 11/17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Gail & Marty sailing away Posted November 15, 2013 #694 Share Posted November 15, 2013 RCL should give us some money back for the short port days .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Gail & Marty sailing away Posted November 15, 2013 #695 Share Posted November 15, 2013 I hope this was an error... They state for the revised itinerary for Eastern: St. Thomas, from 11:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m I thought they have been there 11:00-11:30 and all aboard at 6:30, leaving at 7:00. There hasn't been an issue getting into St. Martin on time. I'm not sure why they would move it up to 5:00 (or 4:30 all aboard). They should give us money back ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallyitsmema Posted November 15, 2013 #696 Share Posted November 15, 2013 RCL should give us some money back for the short port days .... I have never gotten any money back for a shorten port day, have you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelblu Posted November 15, 2013 #697 Share Posted November 15, 2013 See thread " letter form RCL regarding the propulsion problems affecting the Feb 23rd cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Gail & Marty sailing away Posted November 15, 2013 #698 Share Posted November 15, 2013 I have never gotten any money back for a shorten port day, have you? RCL knows they have a problem , and the ship is going out with shorter port days , How would you feel if that was your cruise ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulette3028 Posted November 15, 2013 #699 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Well, now RCCL has announced how they will repair Allure, and I am sure people will still belly ache about the solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
workingonlytocruise Posted November 15, 2013 #700 Share Posted November 15, 2013 RCL should give us some money back for the short port days .... You are joking of course. Read your contract. At least you're getting into the ports even if a shorter time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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