Safety on Carnival... How much do you trust your ship's crew?

[curious_st]

I don't trust security on any ship. I don't think they're qualified to take certain conditions under control like riots and fighting. I saw one youtube video of a skinny little woman in a bikini drunk, who practically drowned a security officer. She was like a wet slippery seal sliding out of their reach. She jumped on the back of one of them and held him under! So, no, I don't trust the crew in situations like that. Maybe in the loss of engine power or a fire, they know what to do.

 

I always assumed the security guards had weapons - at least stun guns. Now, I am curious if that is true. I'm also curious to know if that skinny little woman was taking something recreational or if she was just a little ninja.

[richstowe]

I think it is quite a leap to assume that since they supposedly screwed up selling concert merchandise that they will be incompetent in an emergency situation. Emergency procedures are regulated by the US coast guard. Everyone must pass a test. The captain oversees emergency drills. Quite a difference from selling tee shirts or a que in the showroom. I don't think your point is valid. I think you are mad.

Exactly

I watched the Costa Concordia special on TV where they interviewed passengers, and I have a hard time envisioning that any cruise ship crew would do any better. So, every time the crew sends passengers in circles, I just think about the Costa Concordia crew members telling their passengers to leave their muster stations and lifeboats and go back to their cabin and wait for announcements.

I have two issues with your thread the first well addressed by Joey . The second is dealt with by you .;) Namely that if this is an issue , it is not particularly a Carnival issue . Trusting your safety to the person who was making your bed or exfoliating your skin is common to all cruise lines . I would worry if I didn't believe ships are very very safe .

[LMaxwell]

I don't have blind faith in the crew members on any cruise line. They are not professional mariners. It is not uncommon to find someone from guest services, bar staff, kids club, entertainment working the muster drills and having little to no organization or control of the crowd. This is not limited to Carnival but blanket applies to all lines.

 

I often wonder what happens if a ship starts to sink by listing rather than going down head first. I think many crew would panic as I don't think their training can really prepare for that.

 

Perhaps ChengP75 will chime in on this.

[firemanbobswife]

In a true life and death emergency, I figure it's each man for himself. I will try to locate my family so we could stick together and then make the decision to do what we had to do. If it was true survival it would be at all costs. Sorry to all of you reading this but I would not give a flying leap about anyone else but my family. And this is one of the reasons I like to book an upper deck, such as 11 or 12, towards the front. I figure if there's true emergency, it is going to be associated with the engine room or fuel storage. I want to be as far away as I can. And having a balcony room gives me at least a 50% chance that if the ship lists to one side or the other we won't be trapped like that Poseidon Adventure movie. And being near the front really a few steps away from those hidden decks, I figure if we have our life jackets I like our chances to initially escape. I would think there would be a lot of floating debris around that we could also latch onto. I share the OP's concerns about Gopher and Isaac keeping the masses under control if disaster was to strike.

 

I feel the same way with the exception on where my room is. I used to stay on the top decks, but I figured if the "Poseidon Adventure" happens for real, I would rather be at the top of the flipped ship :D. I like the aft and I stay right by where the exits are and figure I will just jump off the aft end where it's open on deck 1 if need be!

 

I will attempt to do what is recommended in an emergency. However, at the end of the day, I will do whatever I see fit to survive. Some may disagree and that's fine. I am prepared to deal with the consequences should I make it. I can tell you with 100% certainty that I will not go down with the ship huddled amongst the masses while pandemonium ensues. Sure, in the Concordia video all was pretty calm, but I think if things would have happened quicker, that may not have been the case.

 

So, long story short, I think the Crew prepares for this kind of thing and hopefully know what they are doing. But just in case they don't or fellow cruisers decide to riot, only I am responsible for my own safety and am totally prepared to do what I need to do. I am not a lemming.

[elliair]

I always assumed the security guards had weapons - at least stun guns. Now, I am curious if that is true. I'm also curious to know if that skinny little woman was taking something recreational or if she was just a little ninja.

 

No stun guns or any weapons like that. She was drunk, dunno about anything else. She just looked like a bikini monkey on the back of a security guard fully clothed drowning him in the pool. The guy was a wimp against that maniac 1/2 naked beast. It's on youtube, it's hilarious!

 

BTW, I think the reason why there's no weapons with security is because they are not trained to deal with an unruly crowd and if one of those weapons was taken away, it could be used on their crew. My best guess.

[chengkp75]

I think it is quite a leap to assume that since they supposedly screwed up selling concert merchandise that they will be incompetent in an emergency situation. Emergency procedures are regulated by the US coast guard. Everyone must pass a test. The captain oversees emergency drills. Quite a difference from selling tee shirts or a que in the showroom. I don't think your point is valid. I think you are mad.

 

First, let me dispel your misunderstanding. Emergency procedures on foreign flag ships are NOT regulated by the USCG. The USCG are only allowed to determine whether international SOLAS regulations are being met, not the more stringent regulations that the USCG imposes on US flag ships. They also do not regulate the training requirements for the crew.

 

While in my personal opinion, US crews are better trained than international crews, I have worked with many well trained international crew.

 

The problem is that regardless of the amount of training, until an individual faces the "beast", whether fire or abandoning ship, no one really knows whether they have it in themselves to run TOWARDS the fire. Fortunately, and unfortunately, marine emergencies are infequent enough that crew are not called on to act in an emergency, but also can go an entire career without finding out whether or not they have the right stuff. I'm sure that military, pilots, police, firefighters and EMTs will agree with me.

[vwrestler171]

It's not the crew I'd be worried about, it's the 2500 other people who might be panicking and causing more problems.

[KatieBug28]

All crew members have one thing in common, and that is that they are trained and tested on emergency procedures, which have become much more stringent after the Concordia accident. However, different crew members serve in different capacities and not all of them are familiar or are cross trained on every single procedure or duty onboard. For all you know, you may be asking a busboy about information concerning shore excursions. His knowledge about that is going to be very limited at best. I know that the confusion may make you question the crew's ability to respond in case of an emergency, but IMHO, it's an unfounded concern.

 

I'll give you another example. I'm an Airline Pilot. You can rest assured that I know all of my emergency procedures, and I have the expertise to get you to your destination safely. However, more than once, I've been asked at the gate by a passenger to change their seat assignment or to check their status in the upgrade list. I'm not trained or authorized to do either one. When I informs passengers about it, some understand, but some act as if I'm being incompetent and lazy. Many don't even realize that I'm the pilot and not the gate agent. I wouldn't be surprised if what you encountered could've been a situation along the same lines.

 

I was just thinking that the airline industry seems like a very good comparison. Most people don't listen to the safety briefing before takeoff, but I've never doubted that the crew would be competent in an emergency situation. I guess I feel the same way about a cruise and muster.

 

We haven't experienced the kind of runaround you mention when it comes to getting ashore, so I can't speak to that, but I think Tapi has a great explanation.

 

I'm by no means a Carnival cheerleader, but I can't say I've ever been worried about it. But then again, I just drove in the morning of my last cruise, so maybe I like to live dangerously compared to some on these boards ;)

[ldlewis45]

All crew members have one thing in common, and that is that they are trained and tested on emergency procedures, which have become much more stringent after the Concordia accident. However, different crew members serve in different capacities and not all of them are familiar or are cross trained on every single procedure or duty onboard. For all you know, you may be asking a busboy about information concerning shore excursions. His knowledge about that is going to be very limited at best. I know that the confusion may make you question the crew's ability to respond in case of an emergency, but IMHO, it's an unfounded concern.

 

I'll give you another example. I'm an Airline Pilot. You can rest assured that I know all of my emergency procedures, and I have the expertise to get you to your destination safely. However, more than once, I've been asked at the gate by a passenger to change their seat assignment or to check their status in the upgrade list. I'm not trained or authorized to do either one. When I informs passengers about it, some understand, but some act as if I'm being incompetent and lazy. Many don't even realize that I'm the pilot and not the gate agent. I wouldn't be surprised if what you encountered could've been a situation along the same lines.

I agree with you. I can also give another good example of it. I work for CBP as an Agriculture Specialist. I can't count the number of times I've been given "the look" by passengers in a long line waiting to be processed because I'm not helping them. Problem is, they've been referred for a customs or immigration reason, not an agriculture reason. I literally do not have the legal authority to do their inspection. That's always fun to try to explain to a tired, drunk passenger that's 30th in line when there's several Ag Specialists waiting for an agriculture referral to show up. I inspect bags for agricultural products, regulate any agricultural or animal products coming from any country in the world, and talk to you about the commercial and non-commercial import requirements for all of it, but if you have any other customs or immigration issues, you're going to have to wait for the officer with the gun on his/her hip.

[momof3cruisers]

I have only sailed Carnival, so I have only observed these things on Carnival. If other lines have the same disorganization and breakdowns of communication, then my comments apply to those lines also. And, even if the other lines are more organized, that might all break down in the midst of survival instincts and widespread panic.

 

Maybe it is unfair to post on Carnival's board, but I have observed the same issues on all 3 Carnival sailings. That is my point of reference. And, I have heard many comparisons to Carnival's lax muster drill procedures versus other lines that at least bother to do a roll call or swipe passenger cards. I am quite interested in hearing how other lines compare with their safety procedures and the general flow of routine activities.

i can tell you that while they scan you in on Royal, they don't actually make you listen. We tried to hear the announcements/information on our Allure cruise, but it was so loud in the lounge we were in, it was impossible. On Princess, on the most recent sailing we were on, they seemed to muster in much smaller groups which seemed wise to me. Everyone could see the crew member in charge of our station and everyone was very quiet. I've noticed that on Carnival ships (newer than Paradise) where you muster inside, it also seems much more organized. Those booze cruises from Long Beach, OTOH.....well, you're screwed because not only are people already drunk, but you can't even find the crew member who is supposed to be leading your group.

 

I work for a fairly large organization, so I totally understand what you are saying about asking the wrong individual for help. But, I assure you that this was not the situation. On the port day, person A was working on deck 4 directing passengers downstairs to the tender. We asked person A where to go, and he looked at the shore excursion ticket and told us to go to the meeting area listed, which was the theater. Person B came in. The theater, and commented that he had already cleared everyone out and sent them to the the area on deck 4 where I spoke to person A. When I told person B that we already to spoke to person A, he just told us to take the tender and wander around until we find our group on our own. It was obvious that no one had communicated to person A that passengers are to no longer report to the theater to meet for shore excursions. While this isn't a big deal on its own, when you consider that this happens once every 9 days, you have to think about why person A doesn't know better, why person B hasn't insisted on someone letting person A know when this decision is made, and why don't they have a better system with walkie talkies or a coordinator in place.

 

And, one of the saddest examples is from my cruise a year ago on Liberty. The cruise director was making the debarking announcements. He announced one set of instructions m and within 2 minutes was telling passengers in person to go the opposite direction. He nearly caused a mob, and then was promptly cursed by a group of self assist passengers that he had sent around 2 different decks carrying all of their luggage. Hopefully, their emergency exercises include taking the microphone and announcement system out of his hands and throwing him I a lifeboat.

You have twice said now, that the person in the theater said they had already released everyone. Sounds like you were possibly late. I'd say the crew manning deck four were yes, just reading the ticket, but perhaps communication would have been better were you where you were supposed to be when you were supposed to be there. That isn't the crews' fault IMO.

[HLGW60]

You have twice said now, that the person in the theater said they had already released everyone. Sounds like you were possibly late. I'd say the crew manning deck four were yes, just reading the ticket, but perhaps communication would have been better were you where you were supposed to be when you were supposed to be there. That isn't the crews' fault IMO.

 

 

I am glad I read your comment because that was my initial thought when I read the post.

[KatPem]

I am glad I read your comment because that was my initial thought when I read the post.

 

 

That was my original thought as well. I feel like the crew are as trained and ready as they can be until the actually need the training to be used, then no one knows how they will react, including crew. I think the other guests would hinder any emergency drill way more than the crew.

 

On all of my cruises, all Carnival, the Muester drill seemed to be taken very serious by the crew, including guests that were speaking or trying to use their phones. There were guests that were rude but all workers were totally professional on all my cruises. I feel like I am safe as I could be. If I felt strongly unsafe, I wouldn't cruise

[Towel Critter]

I think a major emergency on any of our modern behemoth cruise ships would be chaotic, including Carnival's. What happened on the Concordia, I think we can safely expect to happen on any cruise ship in that situation. Do I trust the crew with my safety? Absolutely not. But I cruise anyway, knowing how small the chances are of a major emergency are. I also fly, knowing my chances of surviving a plane crash are all but nil. I try to not worry so much about things that have a very small statistical chance of killing me. In the grand scheme of things, eating burgers and fries regularly warrants, or should warrant, much more concern than flying or cruising. In short, I have no doubt the crew is well trained in emergency scenarios. I also have little doubt that all that training would be the first casualty in a real emergency.

 

BTW, OP, kudos to you for taking time to respond to each comment on your thread. I don't see that much, even though it is the polite thing to do. :-)

[ldlewis45]

I agree that the OP was quite probably a few minutes late for the meet-up. Stuff like that is why I try to be several minutes early whenever I know I have to be somewhere at a particular time.

[Tapi]

Fortunately, and unfortunately, marine emergencies are infequent enough that crew are not called on to act in an emergency, but also can go an entire career without finding out whether or not they have the right stuff. I'm sure that military, pilots, police, firefighters and EMTs will agree with me.

 

 

I agree with this. In my 20 years of flying, I've (thankfully) encountered a small handful of emergencies, none of which have required a complete passenger evacuation. And even though we are trained over and over on a variety of emergency situations, and we brief and refresh procedures at the beginning of each trip with a new crew, the reality is that nobody knows with 100% accuracy how things will transpire in the event of a real emergency. Too many variables at play.

 

We do have standardized procedures, so even if I'm flying with crew members who i've never met before, everyone has been trained the same exact way so I know what I can expect of them and what they can expect of me.

 

The best piece of advice that I can give anybody reading this thread is that, no matter how frequently you travel, whether by airplane, ship or any of other means of transportation, PAY ATTENTION to safety briefings. It only takes a few minutes of your life but it can save it (yes, I'm talking to you, Platinum frequent traveler, rolling your eyes at this suggestion). Just knowing where your nearest exit is and how to get there can make a immense difference. All it takes is for one idiot who didn't pay attention to freak out during a real emergency and to run the opposite way, trampling people and disrupting an orderly evacuation. It can change a headline from "everyone safe" to "multiple deaths".

Edited October 24, 2015 by Tapi

[CCLCruiser4321]

I'm assuming you didn't read the ticket. Time to meet and start time are very different in a tender port. I assume you just happened to arrive at lounge after he came and got everyone else. I was on paradise in June no problems

[ScrappinCSI]

The crew demonstrated behavior that showed disorganization and lack of communication, even when it came to routine tasks.

 

You mention muster. Muster is a joke.

 

Your concerns are endemic to life in these times. We have allowed ourselves to be swayed by decades of advertising and governmental controls that have made us into Lemmings. You need to work on making your concerns into a plan of self reliance. Your concerns are valid, its been proven in the Concordia disaster and other ship mishaps. Its also been proven that many of the crew are strong willed well meaning hard working heroes too. Never anywhere rely on anyone to secure your safety and future. You are the only one responsible for your future. I don't dwell on my plans to escape dilemma ruin my cruises but I always am watching being observant and most importantly forbid any defeatist thoughts to enter my head that sway how I live my life be it on a cruise or walking into a hairy biker bar. Stop being a Lemming following the crowd controlled by what "they" want you to do and fend for yourself.

[curious_st]

 

You have twice said now, that the person in the theater said they had already released everyone. Sounds like you were possibly late. I'd say the crew manning deck four were yes, just reading the ticket, but perhaps communication would have been better were you where you were supposed to be when you were supposed to be there. That isn't the crews' fault IMO.

 

I agree that the OP was quite probably a few minutes late for the meet-up. Stuff like that is why I try to be several minutes early whenever I know I have to be somewhere at a particular time.

 

I'm assuming you didn't read the ticket. Time to meet and start time are very different in a tender port. I assume you just happened to arrive at lounge after he came and got everyone else. I was on paradise in June no problems

 

Nope. Wrong. I was actually 5 minutes early to the meeting location, as I tend to be to most engagements. We had a later excursions. The excursion itself started at 10:30. The meeting time and. place was listed as 9:30 in the theater. My tail was firmly planted on a seat near the the stage in theater at 9:25.

 

I did everything that I was supposed to do at the time, location, and the method in which I was supposed to do it.

[curious_st]

All it takes is for one idiot who didn't pay attention to freak out during a real emergency and to run the opposite way, trampling people and disrupting an orderly evacuation. It can change a headline from "everyone safe" to "multiple deaths".

 

This is an interesting and valid point that applies to potential crisis in many settings - plane incidents, building fires, Black Friday shopping, and cruise ship incidents. I notice your signature is fabulously full of past cruises. Several of those are on fantasy class ships, which are widely seen as booze cruises. So, on all cruises, but especially the booze cruises, how confident were you in your fellow thousands of passengers? Do you feel like you would have to look very far to find that "one idiot who didn't pay attention", because I picked out dozens of them in my muster? And, this kind of thing just adds to my expectation that the crew members would totally lose control over the crowds in an emergency.

[Pyrate13]

First, in answer to your question, yes, I trust the crew. As others have said, I don't trust the passengers to follow orders or directions when they can't even be bothered to pay attention at muster. That happens whether there is a roll call or not so I don't much care that Carnival doesn't do that. Scanning your card doesn't make you informed.

 

You have made it clear about your concerns, what is your offer of a solution that would ease them?

[Retired_to_Cruise]

From my experience in many, many, many traveling situations, it is usually the passengers that cause the problems because they always have better ideas about how things should be done. On debarkations, it is usually all those people who decide that they do not have to wait for their "numbers" to be called that flood the exit points and cause the backups, not the crew members giving directions. During those exit processes at ports, it is usually those people who cut the lines and ignore the directions that cause the processes to get so backed up that the waits become unbearable. At muster drills, it is usually the people that have not followed the directions that have been repeated 812 times over the P.A system since you got on board or on the T.Vs that cause the hiccups in the process. "Let's not go to the muster drill, they won't miss us!", "Sure we can bring a drink with us!", "Why should I shut my mouth when the crew members are explaining things?", "I have been on a ship before, I know all this stuff so I don't have to listen!", "I can smoke on my balcony and/or throw my butts over the railing because I know that will not cause a fire!", "I don't have to wait in line for anything, I can push my way to the front when ever I want to!", "Why should I listen to any of these low salaried foreign people on the crew? I'm an American and I have all the answers!" Look in the mirror and you will probably see a big part of the problems.

Edited October 24, 2015 by Retired_to_Cruise

[berrieh]

I don't really think emergency procedures are related to the kinds of things you're talking about, OP. Though I am sure no crew would maintain perfect order and communication in an emergency simply because emergencies usually evolve (things change) and people have to adapt to the situation, plus passengers would be panicking and not following directions (some, not all) - that's 100% guaranteed.

 

People have mentioned the Concordia, where most of the crew and passengers were saved but where the captain shamefully abandoned ship early. I do not think every crew would be like the Concordia's captain and officers - I think that's personal. I think there are many captains who would look for the safety of their crew and passengers and take more responsibility. I don't think that's a "corporation" thing though but a personal thing that would vary person to person.

 

As to organization, I have no doubt they would attempt organization in an emergency and with more zeal and effort than the non-emergent situations you mention, OP. BUT will they be successful? I think that depends on how the emergency happens and evolves. I believe they prepare for a disaster, but the thing about a disaster is... it's a disaster! It's chaotic! You can't TRULY ever be 100% prepared for it. I'm also sure some crewmembers would rise to the occasion and others would not, as that is common in emergencies.

 

But either way, none of the situations you mention are urgent or even really that important, so I think reading into them anything as to how a crewmember would act in an emergency is bizarre. I think it's likely with the tender ticket, the group had met in the theatre/lounge and the person had dismissed them to Deck 4 in the time you were asking the other person about it. I think debarkation is a mass of humanity, but I have never heard of anyone stowing away or forgetting to get off the ship, so it's not a mess to the point where it's a real problem - the crew is also doing a very hard job on debarkation day which is usually also embarkation day again in 90% of cases. I always do self-assist, and it has always been orderly enough for my taste. Not pleasant, but there's no real way to make debarkation pleasant.

 

I have never seen anything onboard be so disorganized it was unsafe, in my opinion. I've also seem CCL staff actually ensure you are not talking during muster, etc (not seen that on RCCL - people talk over 'em like crazy - but have on CCL and Disney). BUT I have no doubt if the crap hit the fan, some crew would be stars and helpful and amazing in an emergency and some would not be. I also have no doubt some passengers would be jerks endangering others, some would be ruthless and selfish, and some would rise to the occasion and be helpful to those in need. At the end of the day, people and their priorities are individual.

Edited October 24, 2015 by berrieh
edited out profanity (normal speech for me, but forgot the forum policies)

[jimbo5544]

Unfortunately, I have noticed that although Carnival gives a good boat ride for the money they have difficulty dealing with unscheduled happenings.

 

I expect that if there was an abandon ship that it would be chaotic.

 

And if I feel there is anything odd going on I am not going below decks.

 

and you are basing this on what?

Edited October 24, 2015 by jimbo5544

[curious_st]

I don't really think emergency procedures are related to the kinds of things you're talking about, OP. Though I am sure no crew would maintain perfect order and communication in an emergency simply because emergencies usually evolve (things change) and people have to adapt to the situation, plus passengers would be panicking and not following directions (some, not all) - that's 100% guaranteed.

 

People have mentioned the Concordia, where most of the crew and passengers were saved but where the captain shamefully abandoned ship early. I do not think every crew would be like the Concordia's captain and officers - I think that's personal. I think there are many captains who would look for the safety of their crew and passengers and take more responsibility. I don't think that's a "corporation" thing though but a personal thing that would vary person to person.

 

As to organization, I have no doubt they would attempt organization in an emergency and with more zeal and effort than the non-emergent situations you mention, OP. BUT will they be successful? I think that depends on how the emergency happens and evolves. I believe they prepare for a disaster, but the thing about a disaster is... it's a disaster! It's chaotic! You can't TRULY ever be 100% prepared for it. I'm also sure some crewmembers would rise to the occasion and others would not, as that is common in emergencies.

 

But either way, none of the situations you mention are urgent or even really that important, so I think reading into them anything as to how a crewmember would act in an emergency is bizarre. I think it's likely with the tender ticket, the group had met in the theatre/lounge and the person had dismissed them to Deck 4 in the time you were asking the other person about it. I think debarkation is a mass of humanity, but I have never heard of anyone stowing away or forgetting to get off the ship, so it's not a mess to the point where it's a real problem - the crew is also doing a very hard job on debarkation day which is usually also embarkation day again in 90% of cases. I always do self-assist, and it has always been orderly enough for my taste. Not pleasant, but there's no real way to make debarkation pleasant.

 

I have never seen anything onboard be so disorganized it was unsafe, in my opinion. I've also seem CCL staff actually ensure you are not talking during muster, etc (not seen that on RCCL - people talk over 'em like crazy - but have on CCL and Disney). BUT I have no doubt if the crap hit the fan, some crew would be stars and helpful and amazing in an emergency and some would not be. I also have no doubt some passengers would be jerks endangering others, some would be ruthless and selfish, and some would rise to the occasion and be helpful to those in need. At the end of the day, people and their priorities are individual.

 

 

I was actually 5 minutes early to the the theater for the shore excursion, which I mentioned above. But, as threads get longer, it's easy to miss statements.

 

I feel that the leadership on each ship will make the biggest difference in an emergency situation. And, I feel this is true in many areas of life. Hopefully, Carnival Corporation has learned many lessons from the captian's behavior on the Concordia, and has implemented steps and, possibly new captains, to prevent the same situation from arising in the future.

 

You mention Didney. I have never cruised Disney, but I have heard that they are superior in pretty much every way to most other cruise lines. I was docked beside them in Port Canaveral and saw that their muster was taking a very long time and seemed to have many more people working than Carnival, which I assumed was in an attempt to better prepare the large number of children onboard. Does Disney do muster better in any way? Do they appear to take additional steps toward safety than other lines? I am just curious, because many seem to hail Disney as the gold standard for many things.

[jimbo5544]

This is an interesting and valid point that applies to potential crisis in many settings - plane incidents, building fires, Black Friday shopping, and cruise ship incidents. I notice your signature is fabulously full of past cruises. Several of those are on fantasy class ships, which are widely seen as booze cruises. So, on all cruises, but especially the booze cruises, how confident were you in your fellow thousands of passengers? Do you feel like you would have to look very far to find that "one idiot who didn't pay attention", because I picked out dozens of them in my muster? And, this kind of thing just adds to my expectation that the crew members would totally lose control over the crowds in an emergency.

So..... you pick out "dozens" of drunks (assuming that you think many, many more so on a Fantasy class ship) during muster and this leads you to believe this means the crew does a crappy job in the event of an emergency? :confused:

 

Black Friday and cruise ship fires..... common analogy. My response is that cruise lines in general and Carnival specifically do an excellent job in emergency preparedness. They treat it with the seriousness and dedication that it deserves and requires. They train almost on a daily basis and always in a serious and professional manner. I am basing this on 35 cruises. Be happy to discuss specifics with you if you wish.;)

Edited October 24, 2015 by jimbo5544