Ergates The Ant Posted November 22, 2015 #276 Share Posted November 22, 2015 This is great news. I love to dress up, and will continue to bring the sort of dresses that I would wear for formal night. My husband hates wearing his dinner jacket and will be delighted to leave it at home. So we are both happy. I think it will be hard to see a difference apart from the way the menfolk are dressed. There is such a wide variation in what women consider formal wear that I am not anticipating a huge change. Hopefully everyone who wishes to wear formal wear will have the confidence to continue to do so, without needing everyone else to follow suit. It's a positive step, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Sixth? Posted November 23, 2015 Author #277 Share Posted November 23, 2015 (edited) Over 900 responses in the poll... I don't recall any CC fun poll ( it's a vacation form and I do love it) that has ever come to this number on Celebrity's share of the board. :D:eek: Edited November 23, 2015 by A Sixth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLJC Posted November 23, 2015 #278 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I just hope "elegant chic" does not descend to "shabby chic" in the next few years. Sad to say, I think "elegant chic" has already gone "shabby". Last night on the Summit, they were still designating it as a "Formal" night, with the other planned for Thanksgiving evening. I was amazed on how informally dressed the majority of the passengers were last night. I saw shorts and t-shirts, sandals and sneakers every where. I first thought we got the evening wrong until our waiter acknowledged our attire and welcomed us to the 1st formal night of the cruise. Felt totally out of place in my suit and tie, and slightly embarrassed to be so dressed up. It seemed that most didn't care what they were wearing and only opted for what was comfortable for them. It kinda took the fun out of what used to be the centerpiece evenings of the cruise. Will be interesting to see what happens on Thanksgiving. I've already packed up the suit and tie and plan to dress down to what my fellow passengers demonstrated last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goody1 Posted November 23, 2015 #279 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Sad to say, I think "elegant chic" has already gone "shabby". Last night on the Summit, they were still designating it as a "Formal" night, with the other planned for Thanksgiving evening. I was amazed on how informally dressed the majority of the passengers were last night. I saw shorts and t-shirts, sandals and sneakers every where. I first thought we got the evening wrong until our waiter acknowledged our attire and welcomed us to the 1st formal night of the cruise. Felt totally out of place in my suit and tie, and slightly embarrassed to be so dressed up. It seemed that most didn't care what they were wearing and only opted for what was comfortable for them. It kinda took the fun out of what used to be the centerpiece evenings of the cruise. Will be interesting to see what happens on Thanksgiving. I've already packed up the suit and tie and plan to dress down to what my fellow passengers demonstrated last night. I hope you post your thoughts after Thanksgiving. I wouldn't feel embarrassed if I was you though. You dressed smartly as is your right to do so. If this is what pax are wearing on a supposed Formal night, then who knows what they will be wearing once Evening Chic kicks in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryfmCol Posted November 23, 2015 #280 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Over the years, seeing some peoples idea of "formal" has been disgusting. Wearing cowboy hats, with plaid shirts does not cut it for me, while the rest of us followed the rules and, did dress in a tux, even cumberbund and, all. I could never wait to run up to cabin, and, ditch the tux. Once, I ditched the tux, and, went to the theater for a Captains toast, and, I was not allowed inside. Ha...Taught me...but, I was out of that damn tux. Careerwise, I wore a suit and, tie (uniform) for my 45 year career. I always had to have a tie on. 100 degrees outside, or, in a hot airplane cockpit, but, the rules were there. Ties on.... BUT.. then, I discovered "clip-on black ties". When I retired, I said: NO MORE TIES, OR, SUITS (Tux's). (Even clip-ons.) As it turned out only on the ships...now, I am retiring them for good.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjrpar Posted November 23, 2015 #281 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Only on cruise critic do so many people worry about what other people wear. Times have changed, don't get left behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA_Design Posted November 23, 2015 #282 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Only on cruise critic do so many people worry about what other people wear. Times have changed, don't get left behind. True . But to be fair many people on CC also get uptight about what others dont tip -again not sure how that impinges on their boat trip but it seems to do so. This new chic malarkey will allow many cruisists a bit of leeway in deciding what to wear. In my case the boss lady is in charge of our dress code so dinner suit will be necessary. If I see anyone in designer jeans my look will be an envious one rather than one of disdain [emoji32] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECCruise Posted November 23, 2015 #283 Share Posted November 23, 2015 True . But to be fair many people on CC also get uptight about what others dont tip -again not sure how that impinges on their boat trip but it seems to do so. Of course those who don't tip affects my cruise. It destroys the income and morale of hard working employees who work around 250 hours a month for $50 plus those tips. If just a few pax stiff the crew, it affects them and by extension us. How would your demeanor be if you worked hard for someone who decided that they didn't feel your labors were worth any compensation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYKWIA Posted November 23, 2015 #284 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I found this story interesting - leading British Businesswoman calls for an end to Formal Nights http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reuters/article-3330438/Late-black-tie-dinners-not-woman-friendly--British-business-chief.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Sixth? Posted November 24, 2015 Author #285 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Over 15,000 views for a poll. WOW!:eek::D And by this poll a landslide good decision by Celebrity. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oville Posted November 24, 2015 #286 Share Posted November 24, 2015 (edited) Over 15,000 views for a poll. WOW!:eek::D And by this poll a landslide good decision by Celebrity. :cool: And of course there are those who can not vote do to Cruise Critics inability to fix the bug that will not allow an iPad user to cast a vote let alone see the results. Edited November 24, 2015 by Oville Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seapals2 Posted November 24, 2015 #287 Share Posted November 24, 2015 And of course there are those who can not vote do to Cruise Critics inability to fix the bug that will not allow an iPad user to cast a vote let alone see the results. Hi ... Using my iPad now. Just go to cruise critic web page instead of using an app. Google cruise critic and log in with your details. Select community and forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seapals2 Posted November 24, 2015 #288 Share Posted November 24, 2015 And of course there are those who can not vote do to Cruise Critics inability to fix the bug that will not allow an iPad user to cast a vote let alone see the results. This is using the tapatalk app and there is no poll details shown or the option to vote. You need to go to cruise critic web page to do that and log in to community forums you will be asked to log in with your cc name and password. The poll will then allow you to vote just once. If you leave a comment it will show when you next use your app. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew cooper Posted November 24, 2015 #289 Share Posted November 24, 2015 I hope you post your thoughts after Thanksgiving. I wouldn't feel embarrassed if I was you though. You dressed smartly as is your right to do so. If this is what pax are wearing on a supposed Formal night, then who knows what they will be wearing once Evening Chic kicks in. This is exactly what concerns those amongst us who do make an effort and treat our cruise as an opportunity to look good and dress well . Will this just become a free for all where no-one gives a toss about dress codes ? Clearly some already do . We are after all on a multi million dollar so called 4/5 star ' modern luxury ' cruise ship - apparently . Just how difficult is it to ditch the jeans , trainers , baseball caps and t- shirts for a couple of nights out of 14 ? Clearly many now just see a cruise vacation as no different than say a bucket and spade week in Benidorm or a trailer holiday . And I have read some comments that amaze me . Do people really book an Aqua cabin and pay hundreds of dollars extra just to avoid wearing a jacket ? Is wearing a collar and tie a form of medieval torture ? I have no problem with evening chic or whatever fancy name is given to this new dress code as long as individuals do not totally spoil things and dress like slobs - all the time . And before anyone says it I do accept that I have no right to tell you how to dress on your ' vacation ' and I am not doing so .... the choice is yours ! Meanwhile my dress suit is neatly pressed along with my silk union jack bow tie in readiness for our cruise to the Baltic on the Eclipse next year . And the other 8 people in our party will similarly still adhere to the old formal code on the 2/3 appropriate nights .We will keep the faith ... Obviously time will tell how this pans out and there are far more important things going on in the world at the moment than Celebrity dress codes . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR_T Posted November 24, 2015 #290 Share Posted November 24, 2015 I've only been on 6 celebrity cruises and all over the last 3 years so can only speak for this period of time... I can honestly say I've never seen anyone in the main dining room or speciality restaurants to that matter in shorts/t-shirts/flip flops/trainers/scruffy jeans etc etc, I have noticed a decline in the amount of tuxes over that short period but still everyone to me seems to have not only made an effort but also looks nice & smart for dinner... Most of all generally everyone looks like they are having a great time [emoji4] And I'm sure with the new code this will still be the same, I'm also sure on cruises out of uk waters there will still be a higher number of formal dress Vs non uk water cruises as it does seem to be a thing a lot of uk cruisers want and is still very popular on uk lines... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mafig Posted November 24, 2015 #291 Share Posted November 24, 2015 [quote name=MR_T;48360013 I can honestly say I've never seen anyone in the main dining room or speciality restaurants to that matter in shorts/t-shirts/flip flops/trainers/scruffy jeans etc etc' date=' I have noticed a decline in the amount of tuxes over that short period but still everyone to me seems to have not only made an effort but also looks nice & smart for dinner... Most of all generally everyone looks like they are having a great time [emoji4] And I'm sure with the new code this will still be the same, . Reflection's cruise 11/14. We were in Select at the balcony looking down and saw a couple of people in shorts on Formal night. One couple did sit down for only a few minutes and then left .... they did not return. Perhaps they felt out of place and went elsewhere. But they were let in and Formal was still the "official" dress code. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagoffee Posted November 24, 2015 #292 Share Posted November 24, 2015 This is using the tapatalk app and there is no poll details shown or the option to vote. You need to go to cruise critic web page to do that and log in to community forums you will be asked to log in with your cc name and password. The poll will then allow you to vote just once. If you leave a comment it will show when you next use your app. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Are you able to change pages at the top on your IPad using this method? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketMan275 Posted November 24, 2015 #293 Share Posted November 24, 2015 This is exactly what concerns those amongst us who do make an effort and treat our cruise as an opportunity to look good and dress well . Will this just become a free for all where no-one gives a toss about dress codes ? Clearly some already do . We are after all on a multi million dollar so called 4/5 star ' modern luxury ' cruise ship - apparently . Just how difficult is it to ditch the jeans , trainers , baseball caps and t- shirts for a couple of nights out of 14 ?Clearly many now just see a cruise vacation as no different than say a bucket and spade week in Benidorm or a trailer holiday . And I have read some comments that amaze me . Do people really book an Aqua cabin and pay hundreds of dollars extra just to avoid wearing a jacket ? Is wearing a collar and tie a form of medieval torture ? I have no problem with evening chic or whatever fancy name is given to this new dress code as long as individuals do not totally spoil things and dress like slobs - all the time . And before anyone says it I do accept that I have no right to tell you how to dress on your ' vacation ' and I am not doing so .... the choice is yours ! Meanwhile my dress suit is neatly pressed along with my silk union jack bow tie in readiness for our cruise to the Baltic on the Eclipse next year . And the other 8 people in our party will similarly still adhere to the old formal code on the 2/3 appropriate nights .We will keep the faith ... Obviously time will tell how this pans out and there are far more important things going on in the world at the moment than Celebrity dress codes . There are two distinctly different sets of values involved in this discussion. Those who like formal nights firmly believe the benefits of dressing up far outweigh the costs of doing so. Those who do not enjoy formal nights firmly believe the opposite on both counts. There is little reason to try to convince the other that they are wrong. Neither side will change their beliefs. Those on both sides, should understand and accept that others feel differently and it is useless to try to change that. I'm happy that the cruise lines are going to a formal optional dress code. I believe that will allow those who like to dress up to do so. It will also allow those who do not wish to dress up to also enjoy the MDR. I do urge those who enjoy dressing up to go ahead. There is no reason for being embarrassed for being the best dressed at a table. Nor, is there any reason to be upset if someone joins you that has a different perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seapals2 Posted November 24, 2015 #294 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Are you able to change pages at the top on your IPad using this method? Thanks. When you log into CC web site using the iPad the screen is exactly the same as the PC. Using tapatalk app you can go to any page of the discussion but you just see the posts not the overall page. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsgoggins Posted November 24, 2015 #295 Share Posted November 24, 2015 There are two distinctly different sets of values involved in this discussion. Those who like formal nights firmly believe the benefits of dressing up far outweigh the costs of doing so. Those who do not enjoy formal nights firmly believe the opposite on both counts. There is little reason to try to convince the other that they are wrong. Neither side will change their beliefs. Those on both sides, should understand and accept that others feel differently and it is useless to try to change that. I'm happy that the cruise lines are going to a formal optional dress code. I believe that will allow those who like to dress up to do so. It will also allow those who do not wish to dress up to also enjoy the MDR. I do urge those who enjoy dressing up to go ahead. There is no reason for being embarrassed for being the best dressed at a table. Nor, is there any reason to be upset if someone joins you that has a different perspective. Please accept my applause for your good common sense :) What I cannot understand, is the view that the way someone dresses to dine on vacation (provided they respect the 'smart casual' that is requested in the dining rooms), affects the enjoyment of others! A total mystery to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare POA1 Posted November 24, 2015 #296 Share Posted November 24, 2015 When you log into CC web site using the iPad the screen is exactly the same as the PC. Using tapatalk app you can go to any page of the discussion but you just see the posts not the overall page. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk And you can turn off the stickies in Tapatalk. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richsea Posted November 24, 2015 #297 Share Posted November 24, 2015 (edited) I could not vote using any of 3 iPads, none of which use an app to access Cruise Critic. I can vote using my iMac pro. I also cannot change the page at the top using any of our iPads. The links are there, as are the options to vote & view poll results, but they do not work, and have not for many months. Edited November 24, 2015 by richsea added page change comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bEwAbG Posted November 24, 2015 #298 Share Posted November 24, 2015 (edited) The fault for seeing people dressed inappropriately in the dining rooms is squarely on Celebrity for letting them get away with it. If they simply policed it, then people would learn in short order what is allowed. This new code should give them the ammo they need to turn people away. It remains to be seen if they do it. And my observation has been that it's only a tiny percentage who either completely ignore or are oblivious to the requested dress. We're not talking about hundreds of people in tank tops and flip flops surrounding one person in a tuxedo. Edited November 24, 2015 by bEwAbG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketMan275 Posted November 24, 2015 #299 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Please accept my applause for your good common sense :) What I cannot understand, is the view that the way someone dresses to dine on vacation (provided they respect the 'smart casual' that is requested in the dining rooms), affects the enjoyment of others! A total mystery to me. I'm sure someone will be along shortly to explain that to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA_Design Posted November 24, 2015 #300 Share Posted November 24, 2015 (edited) I'm also sure on cruises out of uk waters there will still be a higher number of formal dress Vs non uk water cruises as it does seem to be a thing a lot of uk cruisers want and is still very popular on uk lines... Cant beat the Brits [emoji41]. Long live Queen Victoria [emoji33] Mind you we did invent the Dinner Suit so why not flaunt it [emoji33] Edited November 24, 2015 by LA_Design Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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