Anthem keeps docking us around

[S.C.]

Watching video on twitter of passengers getting off. Was that someone telling them don't sign anything?

[waterbugohio]

Great job Katrina. Hope you enjoy your last night.

 

Can anyone tell me if there would be NY stations online to watch. Just curious if they are showing people getting off.

 

Thought maybe it would be on CNN, but its all politics.

[AtleeH]

From what I've read and heard on the news, RCL knew about the storm and it's near hurricane force winds the day before she got underway. If that is indeed the case, then RCL blew it big time.

 

The US Navy will not send it's carrier's into storms that bad. The carrier's will sail around the storm, if they have to get under way. If they don't have to get underway, they will stay in port, until the threat down the coast is gone.

 

Now if a hurricane force storm is zeroing in on the Naval base, which happened in recent years down here in Norfolk, VA, the Navy will order every ship that is capable of getting underway, out to sea, and away from the course of the storm.

 

Everyone so far has been sympathetic to passenger's experience. As to your first comment, the way it has been explained is the storm was predicted but there was a sudden change of intensity. Thankfully it's a rare occurrence. As to the latter, I agree Royal probably made a mistake in telling people 6:00am on Wednesday. They should have gotten their ducks in order first. They still may make it right. We'll have to see.

 

But it didn't. :confused:

[kjclosson]

Already seeing news channels tweets, "wait until you hear from these cruise passengers at 10 on fox philly" and " cruise passenger Francis says she would rather have captain crunch for a captain"

 

Ugh was dreading these sensationalized dramatic news stories.

[AtleeH]

Everything I've read and heard, this storm and the possible severity of it was known to RCL the day before the ship left harbor. Have you heard differently?

 

It's quite a different situation to sail into an area when meteorologist don't know a storm is going to happen, or even know the possibility of a storm may happen, and sailing into a known hurricane like storm.

 

So sue mother nature. its not RCCL fault that a storm blew up and ruined the cruise. Maybe you should cancel your cruise as you keep saying they are incompetent.

 

There are logistic situation in NJ in where RCCL does not have full control over. The dock workers, etc.

[Cruise Raider]

Did the good folks of the Anthem ever make it back to New Jersey? Best of luck to you all on getting back to your homes or wherever your planned travel is taking you.

 

Ooops....see you made it back to port. Glad to hear it!

Edited February 11, 2016 by Cruise Raider

[Robo1098]

The fact that it was a closed loop cruise means nothing as far as an investigation is concerned. The fact that you recognize that the ship was offshore enough to open the casinos means that the ship was in international waters. Therefore, once again, it is a foreign flag ship, in international waters. And it has been announced that the USCG will do a Port State control inspection, which only determines that all SOLAS (international) regulations are met, and the ship is seaworthy according to SOLAS. The USCG cannot enforce their stricter regulations on a foreign ship. It has also been announced that the Bahamas Maritime Authority (the flag state) will investigate the "process" (the company's ISM plan that meets the international IMO's ISM code), and has asked for assistance from the USCG. There will likely not be a separate report from the USCG, nor will there be any actions taken by the US, since it is not their ship.

 

 

 

You don't see many, though there are some, Deck and Engine Officers on cruise ships, I knew a few personally. The reason you don't see them often is because they can make more money on US flag ships, so they stay with those billets. However, they make well up in the six figures, for six months work a year. How you doing in comparison? I live in Maine, too. Plus, in many countries, Norway for example, merchant mariners do not pay the social security portion of the income tax, which can amount to 30+%.

 

And a misogynist to boot. Your statements about Captain McCue are just uncalled for, and smack of some resentment against women in the workplace.

 

"Those days are gone, Norway, Sweden. Old days.

Now British, Greek, India, Iceland, Turkey, occasional Italian."

 

And your source would be? Wikipedia, maybe? Actually, while many are from Scandinavia and Western Europe (I won't go into your insinuation that Britain is a third world country), many of them live, and live well in Florida. Your generalization would probably apply to cargo ship Captains, but not in the cruise industry.

 

And so another addition to my very limited ignore list.

 

Now stop making reasonable statements. They have no place in this discussion.

[shaun07]

From what I've read and heard on the news, RCL knew about the storm and it's near hurricane force winds the day before she got underway. If that is indeed the case, then RCL blew it big time.

 

 

 

The US Navy will not send it's carrier's into storms that bad. The carrier's will sail around the storm, if they have to get under way. If they don't have to get underway, they will stay in port, until the threat down the coast is gone.

 

 

 

Now if a hurricane force storm is zeroing in on the Naval base, which happened in recent years down here in Norfolk, VA, the Navy will order every ship that is capable of getting underway, out to sea, and away from the course of the storm.

 

 

Seems that way

[bigeagle12]

Seems that way

 

 

Not true.. National Weather Service was predicting maximum 50 mph gusts up until 5:50pm on Sunday .. then just said storm was getting worse .. Anthem was already in the storm then .. and it turned out to be 2 to 3 times worse than predicted.

 

http://www.nj.com/weather/index.ssf/2016/02/weather_expert_blasts_decision_by_nj_cruise_ship_t.html

[setsail]

I know a Captain who was Captain for Mr. Ryder (Ryder trucks) whose yacht was sold to the Shah of Iran. He was only doing this because he had immigrated from Uruguay, and couldn't get a seagoing Captain's position right away. Did it for several years, but then went to deep sea cargo ships because it pays better.

 

Actually, very few, if any, US merchant ship Captains or any officers are military. Most are graduates of either the USMMA or the state maritime colleges. The differences between a Naval Captain and a merchant ship Captain are so vast that most don't make the transition. You also cannot get a license as a merchant marine Captain just because you were a Captain, or commanded a ship in the Navy.

 

I have a question for you. Can you explain in laymans terms the difference between true wind and apparent wind as it relates to ships and how is it measured? Tia. The wind shown on the cabin tvs is always apparent wind

 

Loubettie gave a link earlier today but for some reason it went poof or got moved, so I thought I would ask you

Edited February 11, 2016 by setsail

[kellylpn]

Welcome home to all the passengers on Anthem Of The Seas. I am so happy you all are home safe. Monday night when I first found out what was going on out there and passengers crying out on cruise critic for help it was very heartbreaking to me. I prayed for all of you. I am glad there were no serious injuries. I will be on this ship on the 21st and will be praying all goes well. Once again, a big WELCOME HOME!! :)

[Ocean Dancer]

I also saw that FOX report from Philly where a kid said he'd rather sail with Captain Crunch....sounded like he was told to say that. Everyone debarking was bad mouthing the entire situation, so tonight's 11 o'clock news will be very negative.

 

It is not fair, but is the news ever far? Fair and Balanced? What is fair is all the posters on the ship who kept as calm as possible and posted to us. Karina, you did an excellent job, don't put yourself down:)

[Janet524]

I have a question for you. Can you explain in laymans terms the difference between true wind and apparent wind as it relates to ships and how is it measured? Tia. The wind shown on the cabin tvs is always apparent wind

 

Loubettie gave a link earlier today but for some reason it went poof or got moved, so I thought I would ask you

 

True wind speed is the actual velocity of the wind. Apparent wind is the combination of the true wind speed plus the speed the ship is sailing into the wind. If the true wind speed was 25 knots and the ship was going 20 knots into the wind the apparent wind would be 45 knots. In other words it would feel like the wind is actually blowing 45 knots.

[20pluscruises]

I also saw that FOX report from Philly where a kid said he'd rather sail with Captain Crunch....sounded like he was told to say that. Everyone debarking was bad mouthing the entire situation, so tonight's 11 o'clock news will be very negative.

 

It is not fair, but is the news ever far? Fair and Balanced? What is fair is all the posters on the ship who kept as calm as possible and posted to us. Karina, you did an excellent job, don't put yourself down:)

 

Just watched here and it was 50 / 50. Some terrified, some blamed the Captain, and some praised the Captain. News person did say the ship will be sailing out on the 13th. Good news for those booked.

Edited February 11, 2016 by 20pluscruises

[#55worktoplay]

You did a fabulous job of keeping us updated with your "on the spot" reporting Karina! I for one sincerely appreciate your posts, especially on Sunday. :D There is never any way to predict the deterioration of threads on message boards. Thanks again!

 

~Patti :)

 

I agree Karina, before your thread got taken over by so many stupid posts I was really interested in hearing what you were going through but I got as tired of it as you did.

 

Thanks for posting and keeping us informed I was up with you on Sunday until about 2:00 AM.

 

Your writing was very good and too bad that others spoiled your next "almost live from the Anthem" as I would have been following and enjoying the ride.

 

If your next Anthem is Oct 15, I will buy you a drink.

 

Enjoy the rest of your evening and safe journey home.

 

Thanks Again

[BND]

I also saw that FOX report from Philly where a kid said he'd rather sail with Captain Crunch....sounded like he was told to say that. Everyone debarking was bad mouthing the entire situation, so tonight's 11 o'clock news will be very negative.

 

It is not fair, but is the news ever far? Fair and Balanced? What is fair is all the posters on the ship who kept as calm as possible and posted to us. Karina, you did an excellent job, don't put yourself down:)

 

I would expect most who are getting off tonight would have negative comments to make as they are obviously in a rush to get off the ship. If they bother to interview a cross section tomorrow, they'll get both positive and negative, depending on a variety of factors. We already know how a couple of those onboard (Karina is one) feel as they have kept us informed.

[BND]

True wind speed is the actual velocity of the wind. Apparent wind is the combination of the true wind speed plus the speed the ship is sailing into the wind. If the true wind speed was 25 knots and the ship was going 20 knots into the wind the apparent wind would be 45 knots. In other words it would feel like the wind is actually blowing 45 knots.

 

DH (retired US Navy Captain) always comments that he wishes he knew what the true wind speed is on a cruise. Apparent is nice to know when you plan to lay out on deck, but it doesn't tell the entire story.

[KarinaGW]

Karina, just saw a tweet of the schooner bar. "Come Sail Away" playing at piano bar now on quieter, emptier ship.

 

Any chance you are in a black tank top sitting near the piano???

 

It was. It is again. I briefly disappeared up top to do the immigration thing (which had long but quick-moving lines).

[helen haywood]

You don't really believe the media is interested in any positive comments from the passengers.

 

Karina, thanks for all your posts! Best wishes for a safe return home and a better do-over!

[KarinaGW]

I would expect most who are getting off tonight would have negative comments to make as they are obviously in a rush to get off the ship. If they bother to interview a cross section tomorrow, they'll get both positive and negative, depending on a variety of factors. We already know how a couple of those onboard (Karina is one) feel as they have kept us informed.

 

Thank you for your kind remarks.

 

I've contemplated that the early departers might further skew the media further in the direction it already it is. But, not enough to get off the ship and miss the final night. Besides, the media gloms onto the sensational.

 

Although, to be fair, a lot of people live in NJ and might just want to spend tonight in their beds.

[Merion_Mom]

I am staying the night. Sitting in Schooner now enjoying a drink. I will rebook Anthem, but I will never again set myself up for the target in my forehead.

 

You are still my hero! :)

[4cats4me]

Not wanting to speculate you just did. Why don't you not say anything until you find out for sure. Thats what is wrong with this site is people like you. You know nothing so say nothing.

 

 

OMG, really? This poster is/was on the ship, so what exactly is wrong with people "like him"......?

 

 

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[KarinaGW]

You are still my hero! :)

 

☺️ From a CCer I have always admired....thanks, mom.

[broberts]

The cruise ship was probably given a specific time to dock and couldn't dock after that. Kind of like when they stack planes.

 

They may have not had the personnel at port to handle the ship until after 8PM.

 

I find it difficult to believe that the port could not handle the docking of Anthem for two days. Especially given the circumstances.

[IndyKid]

Just wanted to say "hats off" to all those on board who persevered through this ordeal, and still had the wherewithal to post and keep us informed!:)