Rare jimbo5544 Posted May 8, 2016 #101 Share Posted May 8, 2016 A supposedly disgruntled Carnival crew member posted a supposed list of guests who removed the DSC on facebook. From 2012 I think..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deborahjo Posted May 8, 2016 #102 Share Posted May 8, 2016 From 2012 I think..... Yes it was from my Swine Flu Cruise on the Splendor. It was a guest we know on a behind the scenes tour. He saw it in the kitchen and snapped a picture of it to prove the list do exist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare rafinmd Posted May 8, 2016 #103 Share Posted May 8, 2016 IIRC, when I first sailed out of Baltimore (about 2011) they used a similar boarding ramp but it was not covered. I hope they still have the old one in a warehouse somewhere and can clear the debris and put the old one in place relatively quickly. I imagine a new replacement or repairs to the damaged one would be a lengthy process. Roy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorncroft Posted May 8, 2016 #104 Share Posted May 8, 2016 My friend likes to take liberties with a negative slant against Carnival. I don't make the news. I just report it. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony O Posted May 8, 2016 #105 Share Posted May 8, 2016 If true, and I'm sure it is, it states what I said above. This was not the ship's fault. Otherwise, how the heck could the ship hit the gangway? Did it jump the curb? I don't think so! :cool: I guess the same way a ro ro ship hit a paceco crane a few years ago at Dundalk Marine Terminal and severely damaged the crane enough they had to dismantle it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorncroft Posted May 8, 2016 #106 Share Posted May 8, 2016 I guess the same way a ro ro ship hit a paceco crane a few years ago at Dundalk Marine Terminal and severely damaged the crane enough they had to dismantle it. A container ship turning in front of the dock hit a 200 foot tall gantry crane and toppled it , killing a contractor in Mobile, too. It happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capswin Posted May 8, 2016 #107 Share Posted May 8, 2016 While the ramp operator was operating the equipment improperly, as I've said, the ship was moving and the ramp was not. The Captain should have seen that the ramp was in the wrong position, and adjusted his docking to accommodate it. The ship is at fault, but it will be up to the lawyers to determine how much liability the port has, and how much liability the ship has. WOW! This is crazy. A lot of arm chair hind sight quarter backing going on. The PBB operators did nothing wrong. They were standing by with the ramp in its usual position waiting for docking as hundreds of times before. The PBB does not move til the ship is in place. The operators had to literally run for their lives when they saw the ship coming at the wrong angle. It wouldn't be possible to move the ramp out of the way at the last minute. Just glad that none of the Port employees were hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnitaVacation Posted May 8, 2016 #108 Share Posted May 8, 2016 It's 7pm.....has the Pride sailed out yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorncroft Posted May 8, 2016 #109 Share Posted May 8, 2016 WOW! This is crazy. A lot of arm chair hind sight quarter backing going on. The PBB operators did nothing wrong. They were standing by with the ramp in its usual position waiting for docking as hundreds of times before. The PBB does not move til the ship is in place. The operators had to literally run for their lives when they saw the ship coming at the wrong angle. It wouldn't be possible to move the ramp out of the way at the last minute. Just glad that none of the Port employees were hurt. Calm down dude. It was the ship's fault, in any case. That's how these things work. This is the second gangway this week that Carnival has ruined, so it's not their first rodeo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esdoorn Posted May 8, 2016 #110 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Wonder if it happened like this :eek: : http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/04/01/video-sightseeing-cruise-ship-crashes-san-diego-pier . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare shof515 Posted May 8, 2016 #111 Share Posted May 8, 2016 It's 7pm.....has the Pride sailed out yet? yes, they are sailing and heading to open waters now. she is in the river Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare dctravel Posted May 8, 2016 #112 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Local new story. http://m.wbaltv.com/news/gangway-crashes-onto-vehicles-as-cruise-ship-docks/39439226 Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted May 8, 2016 #113 Share Posted May 8, 2016 WOW! This is crazy. A lot of arm chair hind sight quarter backing going on. The PBB operators did nothing wrong. They were standing by with the ramp in its usual position waiting for docking as hundreds of times before. The PBB does not move til the ship is in place. The operators had to literally run for their lives when they saw the ship coming at the wrong angle. It wouldn't be possible to move the ramp out of the way at the last minute. Just glad that none of the Port employees were hurt. Apparently, there are conflicting reports as to whether the ramp was in the "usual" position or not. You say it was, another poster says it wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDawg Posted May 8, 2016 #114 Share Posted May 8, 2016 Calm down dude. It was the ship's fault, in any case. That's how these things work. This is the second gangway this week that Carnival has ruined, so it's not their first rodeo. Second one? :eek: Maybe Carnival should send some people to remedial driving school.:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuthlessBoss Posted May 9, 2016 #115 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Well, lets see, 40-50,000 tons of ship or 5-10 tons of boarding ramp. Which one can stop and reverse direction more quickly? But because of the inability of the ship to stop quickly, it is the Captain's responsibility to think further ahead than the ramp operator. The good Captains treat maneuvering and docking like a chess game, and tend to plan 3 or more "moves" ahead. If the ramp wasn't sticking out at the time of the captain maneuvering in, what could his plan be? It hasn't been verified if the ramp was perfectly still or if somehow the ramp was drifting forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vwrestler171 Posted May 9, 2016 #116 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Would the pilot from the port be in control of the ship while docking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Rider Posted May 9, 2016 #117 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Just saw this, do not know all of the details but a gangway to disembark has collapsed in Baltimore. I hope no one was injured! Looking for more information. It didn't fail. Ship knocked it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorncroft Posted May 9, 2016 #118 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Would the pilot from the port be in control of the ship while docking? The pilot never touches the controls. The captain is in physical control of his vessel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capswin Posted May 9, 2016 #119 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Apparently, there are conflicting reports as to whether the ramp was in the "usual" position or not. You say it was, another poster says it wasn't. I work at the Port. I spoke with co-workers that were there watching. I often work at the Cruise Terminal. I know the procedures that are in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Dore Posted May 9, 2016 #120 Share Posted May 9, 2016 WOW! This is crazy. A lot of arm chair hind sight quarter backing going on. Welcome to Cruise Critic. :) If I have learned anything during my short time here so far, I learned that there are a lot of "experts" and honorary Captains. Lots of people posting in threads that don't have a foggy clue. And to think the couple that told me about this site on my last cruise said it was a great resource for information. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Dore Posted May 9, 2016 #121 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Apparently, there are conflicting reports as to whether the ramp was in the "usual" position or not. You say it was, another poster says it wasn't. Got to love Cruise Critic. Everyone has "inside information". This site is about as credible as Fox News and CNN combined. Not directed to you chengkp75 - you actually know what you are talking about. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise-Crazy Posted May 9, 2016 #122 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Calm down dude. It was the ship's fault, in any case. That's how these things work. This is the second gangway this week that Carnival has ruined, so it's not their first rodeo. Second? Where was the other one? :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaBrz Posted May 9, 2016 #123 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Really? Funville was Carnival's message boards, like CC. They're pulling the plug on it after 10 years. Let's get this over with now: http://www.carnival.com/Funville PLEASE let's get back to the gangway/ship failure. (I have friends and relatives here at Port Canaveral that are involved with similar structures and coordination.) Waiting to read more updates and comments ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorncroft Posted May 9, 2016 #124 Share Posted May 9, 2016 If the ramp wasn't sticking out at the time of the captain maneuvering in, what could his plan be? It hasn't been verified if the ramp was perfectly still or if somehow the ramp was drifting forward. New movie. Fast and the Furious: Baltimore Drift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorncroft Posted May 9, 2016 #125 Share Posted May 9, 2016 (edited) Second? Where was the other one? :confused: Progresso. The ramp to a Mexican navy ship fell in the water when the ship was pushed away from the pier by the thrusters on the Liberty. Edited May 9, 2016 by Thorncroft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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