travelgoddess1 Posted February 25, 2017 #801 Share Posted February 25, 2017 I would love to visit Loreto and La Paz! We've never been to either one. Puerto Vallarta and Cabo are always fun stops. :D IMO it is just an excuse (money in some fashion) as to why they aren't out here, when other lines are very successful. The cruise line (like others) could do partial canal trips as Princess does. We really enjoyed a day in Huatulco on one of our cruises. The electrical hook up comment is interesting....because that is one thing about California, there are a great many air quality and pollution control laws. :) The potential for different itineraries is here. I can only believe, after 6 years of varying excuses for why RCI does not come back to the West Coast, that it is all about the money. As are most decisions that a cruise line makes these days. :rolleyes: Considering how polluted our air was 25-30 years ago, I am comfortable with the air regulations. I can actually see our mountains in the summertime now, which I couldn't do when I first moved here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSULabRat Posted February 25, 2017 #802 Share Posted February 25, 2017 The potential for different itineraries is here. I can only believe, after 6 years of varying excuses for why RCI does not come back to the West Coast, that it is all about the money. As are most decisions that a cruise line makes these days. :rolleyes: Royal Caribbean is a publicly traded cooperation. ALL decisions are mandated by law to be made in the best interest of it's shareholders and bottom line. So yes, it is absolutely "all about the money", and has always been so. Any belief that a publicly traded corporation made any decision for any other reason is just excellent marketing on their part, or the decision happens to have coincided with your individual desire(s). (Example: They choose to return to California because they see an untapped revenue stream which is higher than a current route, but you believe it's because you have been asking for it.) :-) Sent from my SM-G935P using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royzer76 Posted February 25, 2017 #803 Share Posted February 25, 2017 When do we expect them to release Symphony's TA to Miami or wherever she is headed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted February 25, 2017 #804 Share Posted February 25, 2017 When do we expect them to release Symphony's TA to Miami or wherever she is headed? No idea which phase: Week of March 6, 2017 - Europe (Phase I), Year-Round Caribbean, & Bahamas Week of March 13, 2017 - Alaska & Cruisetours Week of March 20, 2017 - Europe (Phase II) Week of March 27, 2017 - Northeast & Seasonal Caribbean Week of April 3, 2017 - Australia & Singapore Week of April 24, 2017 – China Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kccrzr Posted February 25, 2017 #805 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Maybe the US could cut Hawaii loose and use it as the 'foreign' port ;) We are lucky in Australia to have 'the islands' to cruise out to' date=' but it gets repetitive too. I have the same beef about the sameness of RCI's itineraries here[/quote'] We did an NCL cruise RT from Honolulu once with stops at Maui, Hawaii, Kauai and, for the international port, Fanning Island (Republic of Kiribati). We did not enjoy the onboard experience but the itinerary was fantastic. I would love it if RCI would do an itinerary like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPacificbound Posted February 25, 2017 #806 Share Posted February 25, 2017 No idea which phase: Week of March 6, 2017 - Europe (Phase I), Year-Round Caribbean, & Bahamas Week of March 13, 2017 - Alaska & Cruisetours Week of March 20, 2017 - Europe (Phase II) Week of March 27, 2017 - Northeast & Seasonal Caribbean Week of April 3, 2017 - Australia & Singapore Week of April 24, 2017 – China Bob, what about Transpacific Fall 2018 and Spring 2019? TIA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renech Posted February 25, 2017 #807 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Week of March 6, 2017 - Europe (Phase I), Year-Round Caribbean, & Bahamas Week of March 13, 2017 - Alaska & Cruisetours Week of March 20, 2017 - Europe (Phase II) Week of March 27, 2017 - Northeast & Seasonal Caribbean Week of April 3, 2017 - Australia & Singapore Week of April 24, 2017 – China Thank you for this summary, Clarea. I need to put this in my calendar once and for all! Not being snarky here but ... :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaylemh Posted February 25, 2017 #808 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Would sailings out of Bayonne be March 6th or March 27th? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommykim Posted February 25, 2017 #809 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Would sailings out of Bayonne be March 6th or March 27th? I would think both. The Anthem is year round and the Vision is seasonal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaylemh Posted February 25, 2017 #810 Share Posted February 25, 2017 I would think both. The Anthem is year round and the Vision is seasonal. That's what I thought. The Caribbean, Bermuda, and Bahamas sailings on the 6th, and the Canada/New England sailings on the 27th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommykim Posted February 25, 2017 #811 Share Posted February 25, 2017 That's what I thought. The Caribbean, Bermuda, and Bahamas sailings on the 6th, and the Canada/New England sailings on the 27th. Of course we are using logic to predict RCI and you know how well that works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internetwhiz Posted February 25, 2017 #812 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Of course we are using logic to predict RCI and you know how well that works. Ha! So true! Remember it's THE WEEK OF March 6. Same date as last year. First ones were released on March 3-4, and Harmony TA didn't come out until March 17 in 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norcalemt02 Posted February 26, 2017 #813 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Could someone explain why Europe is coming out In 2 phases? Do they expect a big year overseas in 2018? Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzyluvs2cruise Posted February 26, 2017 #814 Share Posted February 26, 2017 (edited) Only one of those is a 7 day trip. Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Forums mobile app And??? Not sure what you mean. There could also be 3/4 day itineraries or 4/5 day itineraries. All of the examples I posted previously are currently being offered by competing cruise lines and were previously offered by RCI. Edited February 26, 2017 by suzyluvs2cruise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted February 26, 2017 #815 Share Posted February 26, 2017 And??? Not sure what you mean. There could also be 3/4 day itineraries or 4/5 day itineraries. All of the examples I posted previously are currently being offered by competing cruise lines and were previously offered by RCI. Sorry, I was just trying to say that trips of 7 days that leave on either Saturday or Sunday are the most popular with working folks. FWIW, in 16 days I won't fit that demographic anymore. 😁 Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted February 26, 2017 #816 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Bob, what about Transpacific Fall 2018 and Spring 2019? TIA. All we know is the schedule I posted, don't know what phase the TP cruises might fit into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm from Oz Posted February 26, 2017 #817 Share Posted February 26, 2017 We did an NCL cruise RT from Honolulu once with stops at Maui, Hawaii, Kauai and, for the international port, Fanning Island (Republic of Kiribati). We did not enjoy the onboard experience but the itinerary was fantastic. I would love it if RCI would do an itinerary like this. Now that's what I call innovation. Not too far south of HI. Curious to know how they managed the time zone as it is across the International Dateline on "our" side of the Pacific Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted February 26, 2017 #818 Share Posted February 26, 2017 We did an NCL cruise RT from Honolulu once with stops at Maui, Hawaii, Kauai and, for the international port, Fanning Island (Republic of Kiribati). We did not enjoy the onboard experience but the itinerary was fantastic. I would love it if RCI would do an itinerary like this. What ships was it ? Doesn't NCL have an American flagged ship that is exempt from the typical cabotage restrictions Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillB48 Posted February 26, 2017 #819 Share Posted February 26, 2017 What ships was it ? Doesn't NCL have an American flagged ship that is exempt from the typical cabotage restrictions Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Forums mobile app Don't remember which NCL ship that was on that itinerary, but it was before the Pride of America made her debut. IIRC it was a 10 or 11 day cruise with a good two sea days to Kiribati each way. I also seem to recall that NCL ran amok a few times with the PVSA by not being able to make Kiribati. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlantaAlly Posted February 26, 2017 #820 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Any news on Summer 18 Alaska itineraries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted February 26, 2017 #821 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Any news on Summer 18 Alaska itineraries? Week of March 13th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieVisi2r Posted February 26, 2017 #822 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Any news on Summer 18 Alaska itineraries? They announced on board today that they would be out in April. R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipfriend_max Posted February 26, 2017 #823 Share Posted February 26, 2017 What ships was it ? Doesn't NCL have an American flagged ship that is exempt from the typical cabotage restrictions Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Forums mobile app As I remember, NCL Sun has done such itineraries in 2007/08 including some South Pacific Ocean ports. Seems such itineraries do not require an US-flagged ship. But also NCL has not done such itineraries again since 2008, so there does not seem to be enough demand. So I think for RCCL, it won't be either the case... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saab4444 Posted February 26, 2017 #824 Share Posted February 26, 2017 What ships was it ? Doesn't NCL have an American flagged ship that is exempt from the typical cabotage restrictions Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Forums mobile app A short time they had 3 ships under US flag for Haiwai, Pride of America, Pride of Aloha and Pride of Hawaii. It was Norwegian Jade and Norwegian Sky, you still notice it inside and from the outside hull painting with the flowers. Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelgoddess1 Posted February 26, 2017 #825 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Don't remember which NCL ship that was on that itinerary, but it was before the Pride of America made her debut. IIRC it was a 10 or 11 day cruise with a good two sea days to Kiribati each way. I also seem to recall that NCL ran amok a few times with the PVSA by not being able to make Kiribati. As I remember, NCL Sun has done such itineraries in 2007/08 including some South Pacific Ocean ports. Seems such itineraries do not require an US-flagged ship. But also NCL has not done such itineraries again since 2008, so there does not seem to be enough demand. So I think for RCCL, it won't be either the case... Several years ago, NCL had two ships based in Hawaii. One was US-flagged, one was not. As mentioned above, the demand wasn't there, particularly for the Fanning Island itinerary on the non-US ship. Pride of America, the US-flagged ship, had ongoing crew and service issues which were fairly well-publicized at the time. -- I stand corrected by the previous post -- NCL had 3 ships based in Hawaii. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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