SetAnOpenCourse Posted May 27, 2018 #201 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Sorry i didn’t mean to offend. My comment was intended to be tongue and cheek since the dress codes don’t make a distinction between acceptability of jeans based on price, just on condition. Of course your comment was relevant as this entire string was about jeans in the MDR. I’m thankful for that distinction. Mine were six bucks at the thrift store, same as my gala night slacks. IMHO there is actually less pretentiousness with a traditional dress code. Put on my jacket and, voila, my style may not be impressing anyone except myself :cool:, but I’m “in”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iancal Posted May 27, 2018 #202 Share Posted May 27, 2018 If HAL lists jeans as acceptable attire in the MDR on non formal nights why would anyone bother caring about whether or not some other cruiser did not like jeans or recommended that cruisers not wear them? It is only one person's optinion at the end of the day, and one person that you do not know. Certainly no more valid than another person's opinion. If you like jeans and want to wear them on those nights then go ahead. If you want to wear something else, then knock yourself out and do so. No one really cares. Except perhaps those it seems who have an issue with HAL's version of acceptable attire. If you don't like jeans, take it up with HAL.They publish the guidelines. If you think people are flaunting the guidelines, take it up with shipboard management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinmike Posted May 27, 2018 #203 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Sure is a lot of angst . . . over a vacation experience. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketMan275 Posted May 27, 2018 #204 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Sure is a lot of angst . . . over a vacation experience. Sent from my iPhone using Forums You would think the only reason some take cruises is the MDR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KroozNut Posted May 27, 2018 #205 Share Posted May 27, 2018 You would think the only reason some take cruises is the MDR. Actually, you may be on to something here.;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketMan275 Posted May 27, 2018 #206 Share Posted May 27, 2018 You would think the only reason some take cruises is the MDR. Actually, you may be on to something here.;) It makes one wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mamaofami Posted May 27, 2018 #207 Share Posted May 27, 2018 I have 5 grandsons ranging in age from 22(next week) to 12. I know for a fact that each of them has a pair of nice pants and a colored shirt. Why is that such a big deal. If you're dining in the MDR which is a beautiful venue, they'll feel really good dressed nicely and out of those jeans. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketMan275 Posted May 27, 2018 #208 Share Posted May 27, 2018 I have 5 grandsons ranging in age from 22(next week) to 12. I know for a fact that each of them has a pair of nice pants and a colored shirt. Why is that such a big deal. If you're dining in the MDR which is a beautiful venue, they'll feel really good dressed nicely and out of those jeans. Just my opinion. Lot's of folks would feel "really good" wearing jeans. More "really good" than they would in a "nice pair of pants and a colored shirt". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iancal Posted May 27, 2018 #209 Share Posted May 27, 2018 What is 'feeling really good' have anything to do with what others want to wear or feel good wearing. Just because someone may feel 'really good' wearing a suit does not mean I will as well. Or anyone else for that matter. It would be more than a little arrogant of me to believe that just because I felt 'really good' wearing something that everyone else on the ship should feel the same way and dress the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SetAnOpenCourse Posted May 27, 2018 #210 Share Posted May 27, 2018 What is 'feeling really good' have anything to do with what others want to wear or feel good wearing. Just because someone may feel 'really good' wearing a suit does not mean I will as well. Or anyone else for that matter. It would be more than a little arrogant of me to believe that just because I felt 'really good' wearing something that everyone else on the ship should feel the same way and dress the same way. I think mamaofami‘s post is relevant. Teenagers and young men can be flexible, not fixated on the jeans. In turn I might do well to reinforce their decision by choosing to exceed minimum expectations myself. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KroozNut Posted May 28, 2018 #211 Share Posted May 28, 2018 I know for a fact that each of them has a pair of nice pants From our experience, it really boils down to what you consider 'nice pants'. Others may disagree with your interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasBiskit Posted May 28, 2018 #212 Share Posted May 28, 2018 I think it is bizarre that this conversation is still going on. Honestly, I had no intention of wearing jeans to dinner on our upcoming 18-day cruise, but now I CAN'T WAIT to pack a whole suitcase full of jeans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedneckBob Posted May 28, 2018 #213 Share Posted May 28, 2018 I think it is bizarre that this conversation is still going on. Honestly, I had no intention of wearing jeans to dinner on our upcoming 18-day cruise, but now I CAN'T WAIT to pack a whole suitcase full of jeans. Welcome to the Holland America world of fashion. It don't get any better than this. Should I bring up wearing my Bass Pro Shop cap in the MDR :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkNC Posted May 28, 2018 #214 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Welcome to the Holland America world of fashion. It don't get any better than this. Should I bring up wearing my Bass Pro Shop cap in the MDR :eek: Only while smoking a cigarette.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinmike Posted May 28, 2018 #215 Share Posted May 28, 2018 I think it is bizarre that this conversation is still going on. Honestly, I had no intention of wearing jeans to dinner on our upcoming 18-day cruise, but now I CAN'T WAIT to pack a whole suitcase full of jeans. I would take A Briefcase Full Of Blues. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Kat Posted May 28, 2018 #216 Share Posted May 28, 2018 I can believe that;there are a few(operative word being "few', but they're vocal)that would have HAL be a clone of Cunard. No thanks.;) We have a few on the Viking board as well and Viking is casual with no Gala or dress up nights. Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bUU Posted May 28, 2018 #217 Share Posted May 28, 2018 We have a few on the Viking board as well and Viking is casual with no Gala or dress up nights. I wonder what distinguishes certain experiences that make "a few" develop unfounded proprietary attitudes toward the providers of those experiences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innlady1 Posted May 28, 2018 #218 Share Posted May 28, 2018 I bolded part of your post because it is woefully outdated. HAL now has Gala nights. Coats and ties are not required, and haven't been for some time. Gala nights require collared shirts and nice slacks (no jeans-- although jeans are allowed on non-Gala nights). This is how confusion spreads. Sorry to tell you this but we saw a few men in the MDR last week on Veendam wearing jeans on Gala night. Dockers type...not the high fashion type jeans. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedneckBob Posted May 28, 2018 #219 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Sorry to tell you this but we saw a few men in the MDR last week on Veendam wearing jeans on Gala night. Dockers type...not the high fashion type jeans. Sorry to tell you but unless the HAL staff stops you at the heavily secured entry to the MDR you can wear whatever you wish. That's why it's call "As you wish Dining. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SetAnOpenCourse Posted May 28, 2018 #220 Share Posted May 28, 2018 I think it is bizarre that this conversation is still going on. Honestly, I had no intention of wearing jeans to dinner on our upcoming 18-day cruise, but now I CAN'T WAIT to pack a whole suitcase full of jeans. This seems like vengefulness against “fashion police” that are imagined in posts by a handful of people. You can’t find much disagreement that HAL’s guidelines are what need to be observed - there is just some sharing of opinions on what would be ideal. I’m sorry if you felt provoked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bUU Posted May 28, 2018 #221 Share Posted May 28, 2018 To be more specific, Holland America's requirements are what needs to be complied with. People claiming others must observe more than the cruise line's requirements is how these threads get off track. This message may have been entered via voice recognition. Please excuse any typos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruising-along Posted May 28, 2018 #222 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Sorry to tell you this but we saw a few men in the MDR last week on Veendam wearing jeans on Gala night. Dockers type...not the high fashion type jeans. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Sorry to tell you but unless the HAL staff stops you at the heavily secured entry to the MDR you can wear whatever you wish. That's why it's call "As you wish Dining. :D And there you go. :D HAL's written dress code and what happens on each ship can and will vary. ;) I hope you had a great cruise Sheila! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasBiskit Posted May 28, 2018 #223 Share Posted May 28, 2018 This seems like vengefulness against “fashion police” that are imagined in posts by a handful of people. You can’t find much disagreement that HAL’s guidelines are what need to be observed - there is just some sharing of opinions on what would be ideal. I’m sorry if you felt provoked. Oh honey...if you only knew how non-provoked I feel, and how little I care. We are going on vacation to have fun and relax. I actually came on this site to do some research, but it turns out to have been a ton of laughs among me and my friends, not to mention a fascinating sociological study. It's like Lord of the Flies up in here. Look, by the time we get on the ship, we will have taken planes, trains, busses, and cabs. We're taking three weeks off of work and spending no small amount of money to see some really cool things, have some spouse's together time, relax, and LAUGH. Y'all need to acquire some humor and perspective, and get over yourselves. You're nuts if you think some interweb stranger's opinion of what I should or shouldn't wear actually affects my reality. By the way, I've narrowed down my Gala Night outfits, and am leaning toward this one. Thoughts? https://postimg.cc/image/x2a73w5wr/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SetAnOpenCourse Posted May 28, 2018 #224 Share Posted May 28, 2018 To be more specific, Holland America's requirements are what needs to be complied with. People claiming others must observe more than the cruise line's requirements is how these threads get off track. Or do they get off track by people claiming that people claim that? I think this is mainly the case. :) Anyway, I do agree with what I’d say is the substantive parts of your posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bUU Posted May 28, 2018 #225 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Or do they get off track by people claiming that people claim that? I think this is mainly the case. :)A notion that is easily dispelled by the sixth post in this thread: Jeans are not smart casual either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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