Rare *Miss G* Posted August 14, 2019 #301 Share Posted August 14, 2019 11 minutes ago, Tom47 said: Vaping news story https://www.nbcnews.com/health/kids-health/22-people-have-been-hospitalized-vaping-linked-breathing-problems-doctors-n1041851 Yikes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheila2 Posted August 14, 2019 #302 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Thank you Larry for trying to help. I was reluctant to post my question because even when you follow all the rules it seems to me that people just hate smokers and nothing will make them happy. Apparently it’s more fun to flame us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom47 Posted August 14, 2019 #303 Share Posted August 14, 2019 12 minutes ago, Sheila2 said: Thank you Larry for trying to help. I was reluctant to post my question because even when you follow all the rules it seems to me that people just hate smokers and nothing will make them happy. Apparently it’s more fun to flame us. I wasn't trying to flame you. I am concerned about the dangers of vaping. My mom, a smoker, died of cancer at 58 yrs. My dad lived until 88. He never smoked. I wish you luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheila2 Posted August 16, 2019 #304 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Tom: My apologies. I didn’t think you were trying to flame me. My comment was general and I should know enough to stay away from this thread, but I had a question . I will never defend smoking but as long as I follow the rules I don’t think it’s necessary to insult my choices, poor though they be. Sorry, off my soapbox now. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smi889 Posted August 20, 2019 #305 Share Posted August 20, 2019 On 8/16/2019 at 3:31 PM, Sheila2 said: Tom: My apologies. I didn’t think you were trying to flame me. My comment was general and I should know enough to stay away from this thread, but I had a question . I will never defend smoking but as long as I follow the rules I don’t think it’s necessary to insult my choices, poor though they be. Sorry, off my soapbox now. As a smoker I know where your coming from. Been through it many times just trying to get information and follow the rules. Lot of nasty people in this world. It's all about them. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom47 Posted September 15, 2019 #306 Share Posted September 15, 2019 More vaping news https://www.cnet.com/news/secondhand-vaping-the-new-health-risk-you-didnt-even-know-was-an-issue/ I believe HAL allows vaping in cabins. I have never cruised with HAL, but am considering a Baltic cruise. This gives me pause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcrcruiser Posted September 17, 2019 #307 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Please no smoking in any enclosed area of the ship . There should be out door deck areas for any kind of legal smoking .People with Asthma conditions are heavily impacted & highly detrimental to their over all health . Additionally second hand smoke is toxic . There are lots of poisons in cigarets 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smi889 Posted September 19, 2019 #308 Share Posted September 19, 2019 On 9/14/2019 at 8:48 PM, Tom47 said: More vaping news https://www.cnet.com/news/secondhand-vaping-the-new-health-risk-you-didnt-even-know-was-an-issue/ I believe HAL allows vaping in cabins. I have never cruised with HAL, but am considering a Baltic cruise. This gives me pause. HAL treats vaping the same as cigarettes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smi889 Posted September 19, 2019 #309 Share Posted September 19, 2019 On 8/14/2019 at 4:14 PM, Tom47 said: I wasn't trying to flame you. I am concerned about the dangers of vaping. My mom, a smoker, died of cancer at 58 yrs. My dad lived until 88. He never smoked. I wish you luck. Does this speak alot to effects of second hand smoke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smi889 Posted September 19, 2019 #310 Share Posted September 19, 2019 On 8/14/2019 at 2:46 PM, *Miss G* said: Yikes Depends on what you are vaping! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hulamoon Posted October 8, 2019 #311 Share Posted October 8, 2019 A HAL representative recently told me smoking would be discontinued in casinos. But I found that didn’t seem to line up with written policy. What are the most non smoking ships for the sensitive amongst us these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgee Posted October 8, 2019 #312 Share Posted October 8, 2019 17 minutes ago, hulamoon said: A HAL representative recently told me smoking would be discontinued in casinos. But I found that didn’t seem to line up with written policy. What are the most non smoking ships for the sensitive amongst us these days? So far only 5 ships have NS casinos: Zuiderdam, Oosterdam, Westerdam, Eurodam and Nieuw Amsterdam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hulamoon Posted October 8, 2019 #313 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Oh that’s great. I was hoping for a Nieuw ship being included, but didn’t see it listed in public info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgee Posted October 8, 2019 #314 Share Posted October 8, 2019 4 hours ago, hulamoon said: Oh that’s great. I was hoping for a Nieuw ship being included, but didn’t see it listed in public info. Unfortunately the two newest ships, Konigsdam and Nieuw Statendam have smoking casinos. HAL has chosen the five ships to have NS casinos mostly because they are designed in a way that casino smoke drifts into entertainment venues, apparently not because HAL is starting a trend of any kind as new ships roll out. If your information that HAL is moving toward all NS casinos is correct, that would be great, but there seems to be little evidence of that by their actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hulamoon Posted October 8, 2019 #315 Share Posted October 8, 2019 26 minutes ago, edgee said: Unfortunately the two newest ships, Konigsdam and Nieuw Statendam have smoking casinos. HAL has chosen the five ships to have NS casinos mostly because they are designed in a way that casino smoke drifts into entertainment venues, apparently not because HAL is starting a trend of any kind as new ships roll out. If your information that HAL is moving toward all NS casinos is correct, that would be great, but there seems to be little evidence of that by their actions. She put me on hold to double check, and came back with they will all be NS. Good thing I hesitated until it showed up in print. Which it hasn’t. They have made a lot of progress, but I think I need to wait until I am sure I will not be exposed to drift, or recirculating air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindaru Posted October 12, 2019 #316 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Looking at a possible cruise on Eurodam return trip Seattle inside passage Alaska for May 2020. Have sailed on Princess but new to HAL. Never smoked in the casino on Princess (never spent much time in the casino). Where are all of the smoking areas on Eurodam and are they inside or outside, and if outside, are they sheltered from the elements? Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KroozNut Posted October 12, 2019 #317 Share Posted October 12, 2019 The only designated smoking area on Eurodam is on deck 9 (Lido) aft, starboard side near the Sea View Pool and Bar. The area is outside and partially protected from the elements. The casino on Eurodam is 100% smoke free. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindaru Posted October 12, 2019 #318 Share Posted October 12, 2019 12 minutes ago, KroozNut said: The only designated smoking area on Eurodam is on deck 9 (Lido) aft, starboard side near the Sea View Pool and Bar. The area is outside and partially protected from the elements. The casino on Eurodam is 100% smoke free. Thank you. I had heard at least one ship had a cigar lounge, The Oak Room, I believe, and was hoping they would have something like that. Okay! Going to stay with Princess. Have a good one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuthC Posted October 12, 2019 #319 Share Posted October 12, 2019 12 minutes ago, Lindaru said: I had heard at least one ship had a cigar lounge, The Oak Room, I believe, and was hoping they would have something like that. That would be the Noordam. It is (was?) the only HAL ship with an indoor, enclosed, smoking lounge. They all should have one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindaru Posted October 13, 2019 #320 Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 hour ago, RuthC said: That would be the Noordam. It is (was?) the only HAL ship with an indoor, enclosed, smoking lounge. They all should have one. I agree and thank you for the information! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edi1140 Posted October 13, 2019 #321 Share Posted October 13, 2019 On 10/7/2019 at 8:49 PM, edgee said: So far only 5 ships have NS casinos: Zuiderdam, Oosterdam, Westerdam, Eurodam and Nieuw Amsterdam. That's fantastic. My last cruise on Eurodam in January '17, I'm pretty sure the casino was still smoking. I'm on the NA in January, maybe I will even play a few games in the casino now....I avoided them before because of the smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasDot Posted October 15, 2019 #322 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Amazing how people think their rights to keep people from smoking Trumps smokers rights. Smokers pay just as much for the cruise as y'all do . If a smoker is in a designated smoking area he or she should be able to smoke . I agree not in cabins or public areas of the ships. If you get a whiff of smoke too bad stay out of the smoking areas. Smokers do not come into your area. I have more issues with people that use a scooters , parking them in the lido buffet isles while they walk to get their food ,or set in a chair and eat. making other guests walk around their scooter. Or unruly children, on some cruises playing tag in the elevators and in the hall ways. Or allowing their small children to snorkel in the hot tub due to the fact that the pool is too deep . And Keep your hands out of the food at the Lido Buffet, HAL provides utensils to grab the food, I do not care how many cruises you have been on. You may be able to board, and depart before me . but if I'am in line at the buffet , Or to enter the theater . You have no right what so ever to crowd in front of me and my wife . There are people aboard ship that had to scrimp and save even to be able to take a cruise don't be a jerk about ,they and I do not care how many cruises you have been on !!!! P.S I do not smoke 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T8NCruise Posted October 15, 2019 #323 Share Posted October 15, 2019 18 hours ago, ChasDot said: Amazing how people think their rights to keep people from smoking Trumps smokers rights. Smokers pay just as much for the cruise as y'all do . If a smoker is in a designated smoking area he or she should be able to smoke . I agree not in cabins or public areas of the ships. If you get a whiff of smoke too bad stay out of the smoking areas. Smokers do not come into your area. I have more issues with people that use a scooters , parking them in the lido buffet isles while they walk to get their food ,or set in a chair and eat. making other guests walk around their scooter. Or unruly children, on some cruises playing tag in the elevators and in the hall ways. Or allowing their small children to snorkel in the hot tub due to the fact that the pool is too deep . And Keep your hands out of the food at the Lido Buffet, HAL provides utensils to grab the food, I do not care how many cruises you have been on. You may be able to board, and depart before me . but if I'am in line at the buffet , Or to enter the theater . You have no right what so ever to crowd in front of me and my wife . There are people aboard ship that had to scrimp and save even to be able to take a cruise don't be a jerk about ,they and I do not care how many cruises you have been on !!!! P.S I do not smoke I agree with many of your points with the exception of the part I bolded. Unfortunately, the actual smoke does stray and is not always contained in the smoking area. And the smell of cigarettes/smoking goes with the smoker and is not pleasant for others in an elevator, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare richstowe Posted October 15, 2019 #324 Share Posted October 15, 2019 From Holland America SMOKING POLICY All staterooms, suites, and verandahs are non-smoking. Guests in violation of our policy will be charged a $250 per day cleaning fee. E-cigarettes are permitted in staterooms, otherwise only in designated smoking areas. Except as otherwise noted, cigar and pipe smoking is not allowed anywhere inside the ship; it is only permitted in designated outdoor smoking areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KroozNut Posted October 16, 2019 #325 Share Posted October 16, 2019 5 hours ago, T8NCruise said: And the smell of cigarettes/smoking goes with the smoker and is not pleasant for others in an elevator, for example. Unfortunately many obnoxious smells from other people in elevators are not pleasant, so this is not unique to smokers only (and I don't smoke either). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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