Grandson 18 years old, alcohol policy for guardians

[fastnloose]

Hi, we are taking our 18 year old grandson on a cruise out of UK where alcohol is permitted at  18 years old.  I am told by Celebrity that a parent may authorise  an 18 year old with alcohol, but they  are not sure if that also applies to a grandparent, acting as guardian.   Anyone any ideas which is correct?

[phoenix_dream]

I would be surprised if anyone actually has an answer to this question.  You could try calling Celebrity but their Customer Service reps probably won't know the answer either.  I would suggest bringing a letter of authorization from the parents with you just in case.  I doubt you will need it, but what can it hurt to have it handy.

[davekathy]

52 minutes ago, fastnloose said:

Hi, we are taking our 18 year old grandson on a cruise out of UK where alcohol is permitted at  18 years old.  I am told by Celebrity that a parent may authorise  an 18 year old with alcohol, but they  are not sure if that also applies to a grandparent, acting as guardian.   Anyone any ideas which is correct?

Where are you cruising from and to? 

[bengaltiger1]

1 hour ago, fastnloose said:

Hi, we are taking our 18 year old grandson on a cruise out of UK where alcohol is permitted at  18 years old.  I am told by Celebrity that a parent may authorise  an 18 year old with alcohol, but they  are not sure if that also applies to a grandparent, acting as guardian.   Anyone any ideas which is correct?

 

This is from Celebrity U.K. T&Cs.  Reading this it depends on where you are leaving from and cruising. If it’s the U.K. and Europe an 18 year old is not classed as a minor and therefore does not need your permission, if I am reading this correctly. 

 

https://www.celebritycruises.co.uk/terms-and-conditions/booking-conditions/

 

5.3 ARE THERE ANY AGE RESTRICTIONS?

On ships departing from ports in Europe, Asia, South America, Australia or New Zealand, no person under eighteen (18) (a ‘minor’) may sail on any cruise holiday or have a stateroom on his or her own unless accompanied by a parent, a legal guardian or authorised person* who is over the age of eighteen (18). Please note, that for any of our ships sailing from a port in the US or Canada, the minimum age for the above policy will be twenty-one (21).
For minors under the age of eighteen (18) at the start of the sailing who are not travelling with at least one of their parents or a legal guardian, written authorisation for an authorised person to accompany the minor must be provided from a parent/legal guardian (see below). 

Minors travelling with an adult(s) who is not the parent or legal guardian shall be required to present (a) the minor’s valid passport, (b) all applicable visas and (c) *where the minor is under the age of eighteen (18), an original legally affirmed or notarised letter signed by at least one of the child’s parents/ legal guardians. Where such letter is required, the letter must authorise the travelling adult to take the minor/s on the specified cruise and must authorise the travelling adult to supervise the minor, sign applicable sports waivers and permit any medical treatment that must be administered to the minor which in the opinion of the treating doctor needs to be carried out without delay. A letter can be legally affirmed or notarised by a practising solicitor, notary or commissioner for oaths for a fee. If such evidence is not produced, the minor(s) concerned will not be permitted to board the ship or undertake the cruise. Celebrity Cruises® will not be responsible for any costs, expenses or losses suffered as a result either by the minor affected, the person(s) paying for their cruise (if not the minor him/herself), or any persons travelling with the minor who decide not to continue with the holiday as a result of the failure to produce a letter of authorisation as set out above. 
We will not pay any compensation or give any refund to any minor who we have not permitted to board the ship, any person paying for the minor’s holiday (if not the minor him/herself), or any persons travelling with the minor who decide not to continue with the cruise themselves as a result of the failure to produce a letter of authorisation.

Please note: that parent(s)/legal guardian travelling with a child who has a different surname to the parent(s)/legal guardian, will be required to produce official proof such as a full birth certificate/wedding certificate/divorce papers to prove that they are the parent(s)/legal guardian of the children concerned. Proof of legal guardianship is also required where there is a minor travelling with their legal guardian. Individual staterooms can be booked by married couples whose minimum age is sixteen (proof of marriage is required at time of booking). Individual staterooms may only be occupied solely by minors where such staterooms are adjacent (directly next door or opposite) to the stateroom of the parent or Legal Guardian of the minor. On board there are certain facilities where each entry is restricted by age. Persons using the Canyon Ranch® spa must be over the age of 18. Full details of onboard facilities with age restrictions are contained within the Daily Programme, which is available from the Guest Relations Desk. 
The minimum age for infants to sail is six (6) months, as of the date of sailing and twelve (12) months, as of the date of sailing for Transatlantic, Transpacific, Hawaii, Australian, selected South American cruises and other selected cruises. For the purposes of this policy, any cruise that has 3 or more days consecutive at sea will require infants to be 12 months old on the first day of the cruise/Cruisetour. The health and safety of our guests is our number one priority. As such, in consideration of the limitations of the shipboard medical facility, equipment and staff, the company cannot accept waivers, releases or requests for exceptions to this policy.

 

alcohol policy

 

What about alcoholic drinks?

A: The minimum drinking age for all alcoholic beverages on Celebrity Cruises ships sailing from South America, Europe, Asia, the Arabian Gulf, Australia and New Zealand is eighteen (18). The minimum drinking age for all sailings from North America is twenty-one (21). All guests must comply with Celebrity Cruises policies, including among other things, agreeing to not provide alcoholic beverages to any other person, regardless of age. At private shoreside resorts such as Labadee and CocoCay and when in U.S. & Canadian ports, the minimum drinking age will remain twenty-one (21).

If a guest reaches a birthday that will change their adherence to our alcohol policy, they may visit the Guest Relations Desk and on showing their passport as proof of age, their records will be updated to allow them to purchase and consume alcohol.

We reserve the right to vary minimum age limits without notice where local laws require or where deemed desirable or necessary. Please note that within the territorial waters of some countries on your itinerary or based on your embarkation port, the onboard shops may be closed or alternatively restrictions may be imposed on some items available for purchase.

Please note: that some of our cruise itineraries call exclusively upon EU ports of call and for such cruises we are required to charge VAT (value added tax) on certain onboard goods and services depending on the VAT regulations of the home port country or the country of a port of call. Such VAT is charged on goods and services at the point of sale and is subsequently paid over to the country charging the VAT. Non-EU residents may be able to reclaim VAT paid on physical goods when they depart from the EU, normally at the departure airport. Restrictions apply and this policy is subject to change without notice. This policy also applies on some short sailing's departing from the UK.

Guests can now take on board the ship, two bottles of wine/champagne per stateroom on embarkation only. If the wine is consumed in a public area, the corkage is USD $25 to pay. Alcohol purchased in a port of call or on board from the Duty Free Gift Shop is not for consumption on board during your cruise, any such alcohol will be stored and delivered to your stateroom on the last night of the cruise.

Guests who violate any alcohol policies, (over consume, provide alcohol to people under stated age above, demonstrate irresponsible behaviour, or attempt to conceal alcoholic items at security and or luggage check points or any other time), may be disembarked or not allowed to board, at their own expense, in accordance with our Guest Conduct Policy. Celebrity Cruises reserves the right to revoke or otherwise restrict drinking privileges of any guest, regardless of age.

Additional policies for groups apply and will be enforced without exception. Applicable regulatory age restrictions apply while the ship is in port and until the vessel enters international waters.

 

Edited January 9, 2019 by bengaltiger1

[I_r_a]

Hi F,

 

> I am told by Celebrity that a parent may authorise  an 18 year old with alcohol, but they  are not sure if that also applies to a grandparent, acting as guardian. 

 

Have the parents provide you a notarized temporary Power of Attorney allowing you to act "in loco parentis" for the duration of the trip.

 

This will permit you to handle all problems that might arise.

 

Bon voyage

 

Ira

[fastnloose]

41 minutes ago, davekathy said:

Where are you cruising from and to? 

From Southampton (UK) and to Norway

[snyniew]

If sailing out of the UK or Europe the drinking age on Celebrity is 18 so you won't have to sign anything for him to drink. If you were sailing out of a US port it goes by US law and would be 21 with no exceptions even though it does say a waiver can be signed. They don't do waivers. 

[davekathy]

11 minutes ago, fastnloose said:

From Southampton (UK) and to Norway

He's of age to drink on  your cruise.

Edited January 9, 2019 by davekathy

[Bobal]

2 hours ago, I_r_a said:

Hi F,

 

> I am told by Celebrity that a parent may authorise  an 18 year old with alcohol, but they  are not sure if that also applies to a grandparent, acting as guardian. 

 

Have the parents provide you a notarized temporary Power of Attorney allowing you to act "in loco parentis" for the duration of the trip.

 

This will permit you to handle all problems that might arise.

 

Bon voyage

 

Ira

 

This is totally unnecessary. He is over 18 so is allowed to drink alcohol - as he would be in all the countries you are visiting. There are no waivers to be signed and no need for anyone to give permission. His sea pass card will be that of an adult - i.e. over 18. If under 18 (or sailing in a country where the age limit is 21) the sea pass card is different, i.e. showing that the bearer is a minor.

Edited January 9, 2019 by Bobal

[groryjm]

When we travelled out if Southampton to the Fjords in September last year our DD received a full adult sea pass with PALL (premium alcohol) printed on it  (and Elite). This was her first cruise since her eighteenth birthday and we were all psyched up to fight for her rights but no fight was needed as all was already sorted:-)

 

NB the premium package was due to all three of us being in an RS and Elite was due to her previous sailings as a minor with us being backdated onto her newly acquired CC number

[Fogfog]

We didn't have to authorize anything--as sailing from the UK our "kids" were given full drink packages as they were both over 18.

 

[fastnloose]

Thank you everyone who took time to reply. We are grateful for all your help. Fastnloose xx

[steamboats]

19 hours ago, fastnloose said:

From Southampton (UK) and to Norway

 

You definitely need nothing! He´s legally an adult for this cruise. I had my DD on a Baltic cruise at the age of 18 yo together with her two friends (19 and 20). My DD was the main booking person. All three of them were allowed to drink alcohol. NO authorization needed by the parents. All three are EU citizens and it´s a cruise within Europe. Although this was not with Celebrity but with RCI - but same mother company, same rules.

 

steamboats

[Gordoncruickshank]

19 hours ago, groryjm said:

When we travelled out if Southampton to the Fjords in September last year our DD received a full adult sea pass with PALL (premium alcohol) printed on it  (and Elite). This was her first cruise since her eighteenth birthday and we were all psyched up to fight for her rights but no fight was needed as all was already sorted:-)

 

NB the premium package was due to all three of us being in an RS and Elite was due to her previous sailings as a minor with us being backdated onto her newly acquired CC number

We had the opposite when our daughter accompanied us last October. She is 36 and despite being in a RS her card was printed will no alcohol package. We didn't actually notice until there was an issue in the Oceanview. Quickly sorted once we noticed it.

[chemmo]

18 minutes ago, Gordoncruickshank said:

We had the opposite when our daughter accompanied us last October. She is 36 and despite being in a RS her card was printed will no alcohol package. We didn't actually notice until there was an issue in the Oceanview. Quickly sorted once we noticed it.

 

Only on one occasion out of many has our son’s pass had his premium package on it at boarding (third guest RS or PH). We now give it to the Michael’s Host on boarding and they will sort it immediately...If the host is busy we head for Luminae and give the card to the M’D who will sort as we dine. 

 

Whilst Michael’s staff and Luminae staff know that third guest in RS gets the drinks package staff generally around ship may not.