scooby1 Posted April 2, 2019 #301 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Its the cofferdam, its shown in the pics I posted earlier showing that is all underwater. And that's the bit we can't see. Damage at the top in the Aqua theatre isn't great but isn't a quick fix to remove seeing as though the cranes are listing with the dock itself at the moment and would need to be re-floated and hopefully the other cranes leaning against the ship are fine. We are on it at the end of May and was looking forward to the climbing walls and Aqua as something new for the kids to see. But underwater there could be damage to the azipods with the coffer hitting them and that would be really bad news. Hopefully that isn't the case and everyone with up and coming cruises can relax but anything in the next week is very unlikely I'd expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallyitsmema Posted April 2, 2019 #302 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Just now, Barklee said: It's actually after the accident and at 0:25 you can see part of the crane hanging over the port side of Deck 6 just in front of the port LED screen I agree about the crane in the aqua theater, but the other crane that ends up leaning on the outside of the ship is still standing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barklee Posted April 2, 2019 #303 Share Posted April 2, 2019 1 minute ago, reallyitsmema said: I agree about the crane in the aqua theater, but the other crane that ends up leaning on the outside of the ship is still standing. I believe that's a separate crane still standing on the starboard side. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CruisinMaterial Posted April 2, 2019 #305 Share Posted April 2, 2019 1 minute ago, scooby1 said: This matches up with the news article stating there were non-life threatening near drowning injuries. The cofferdams were submerged with workers in them. My thoughts go to out to all the injured. How horrific! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallyitsmema Posted April 2, 2019 #306 Share Posted April 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Barklee said: I believe that's a separate crane still standing on the starboard side. The 12 second video and 45 second video show a crane leaning on the starboard side of the ship. The crew video seems to show that crane still standing and isn't leaning on the ship yet. I agree that you can see the crane that is in the aqua theater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony O Posted April 2, 2019 #307 Share Posted April 2, 2019 1 hour ago, derek005 said: Tony, Is that a Santa Clara Vanguard picture? Yes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek005 Posted April 2, 2019 #308 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Just now, Tony O said: Yes Nice!!!! Did you march there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ticketsunlimited Posted April 2, 2019 #309 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Can you imagine being down there working and they start flooding. Very scary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare twangster Posted April 2, 2019 #310 Share Posted April 2, 2019 (edited) Dock 2 is equipped with four cranes, two port (still standing) and two starboard (one standing, one in the aqua theater). The crane section pictured hanging over the port side of the ship near the aqua theater appears to be the boom section that belongs to the fallen crane lying in the aqua theater. Edited April 2, 2019 by twangster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare twangster Posted April 2, 2019 #311 Share Posted April 2, 2019 From the GBSY engineering guide: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pratique Posted April 2, 2019 #312 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Are the cranes on the wing walls or are they floated in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted April 2, 2019 #313 Share Posted April 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Pratique said: Are the cranes on the wing walls or are they floated in? Wing wall, but I seem to remember there being some separate floating cranes for the wet berths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pratique Posted April 2, 2019 #314 Share Posted April 2, 2019 1 minute ago, chengkp75 said: Wing wall, but I seem to remember there being some separate floating cranes for the wet berths. It looks like there might be some additional cranes but it's hard to tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiser_1977 Posted April 2, 2019 #315 Share Posted April 2, 2019 According to the Royal Caribbean twitter page there will not be a press conference. They will be releasing a statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dry Dock Dave Posted April 2, 2019 #316 Share Posted April 2, 2019 cranes don’t just fall on ships for no reason... its friends don’t then lean on ships out of sympathy for their fallen friend neither cause cofferdams to flood without warning, and certainly don’t cause a ship the size and weight of the Oasis to fall over they lifted the ship too high is my guess, put weight way beyond what the dock bottom could take in the middle of a flat structure being lifted at its edges and it bent so the walls folded in and the cranes fell / rested on the ship. The dock bottom sinks as the walls fold in and the cofferdams flood. the only real unknown is what damage the cofferdams did during this, and whether the middle cofferdam has gone through the dock bottom or through the hull for the ship to be at that angle now... the fact they’ve not dropped the dock and let the ship upright itself is not a good sign either way 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezelaya Posted April 2, 2019 #317 Share Posted April 2, 2019 With the cofferdam having flooded, I wonder if that would minimize potential damage to the Azipods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezelaya Posted April 2, 2019 #318 Share Posted April 2, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Dry Dock Dave said: cranes don’t just fall on ships for no reason... its friends don’t then lean on ships out of sympathy for their fallen friend neither cause cofferdams to flood without warning, and certainly don’t cause a ship the size and weight of the Oasis to fall over they lifted the ship too high is my guess, put weight way beyond what the dock bottom could take in the middle of a flat structure being lifted at its edges and it bent so the walls folded in and the cranes fell / rested on the ship. The dock bottom sinks as the walls fold in and the cofferdams flood. the only real unknown is what damage the cofferdams did during this, and whether the middle cofferdam has gone through the dock bottom or through the hull for the ship to be at that angle now... the fact they’ve not dropped the dock and let the ship upright itself is not a good sign either way Well we don't know when these photos/videos were taken and it seems most were taken yesterday shortly after the incident. I have observed 2 tugs and a pilot boat with Oasis all day today on AIS so I would assume some type of work was being performed today. Edited April 2, 2019 by ezelaya Additl Info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted April 2, 2019 #319 Share Posted April 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Pratique said: It looks like there might be some additional cranes but it's hard to tell. There are always some road "stick" cranes around as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted April 2, 2019 #320 Share Posted April 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, Dry Dock Dave said: cranes don’t just fall on ships for no reason... its friends don’t then lean on ships out of sympathy for their fallen friend neither cause cofferdams to flood without warning, and certainly don’t cause a ship the size and weight of the Oasis to fall over they lifted the ship too high is my guess, put weight way beyond what the dock bottom could take in the middle of a flat structure being lifted at its edges and it bent so the walls folded in and the cranes fell / rested on the ship. The dock bottom sinks as the walls fold in and the cofferdams flood. the only real unknown is what damage the cofferdams did during this, and whether the middle cofferdam has gone through the dock bottom or through the hull for the ship to be at that angle now... the fact they’ve not dropped the dock and let the ship upright itself is not a good sign either way Since this is about the third time that they've done this evolution, I find it hard to believe they don't know what draft to raise the dock to. I'll leave the rest alone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dry Dock Dave Posted April 2, 2019 #321 Share Posted April 2, 2019 (edited) Third time done doesn’t mean a thing if it’s not the same guys doing it 😉 Edited April 2, 2019 by Dry Dock Dave 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare FionaMG Posted April 2, 2019 #322 Share Posted April 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Host Clarea said: I'm thinking US Eastern Daylight is now GMT - 4. So 9pm for you. Clocks went forward over here just this weekend so back to a 5-hour difference between UK and east coast of the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted April 2, 2019 #323 Share Posted April 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dry Dock Dave said: Third time done doesn’t mean a thing if it’s not the same guys doing it 😉 Only if no one keeps any records. Or they kept the weight calculations on the pizza receipt. I would have thought that RCI would have kept some data on previous dockings as well. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pratique Posted April 2, 2019 #324 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Could they even drop the dock in this condition? Won't they need to pick the cranes off first so they don't shift around and do even more damage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beachammo Posted April 2, 2019 #325 Share Posted April 2, 2019 5pm..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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