Elaine5715 Posted June 11, 2019 #1 Share Posted June 11, 2019 http://crew-center.com/10000-fine-man-who-jumped-intentionally-carnival-fascination You are here: Home Blogs Cruise Port Crew's blog $10.000 Fine for the Man Who Jumped Intentionally from Carnival Fascination May 27, 2019 The man who jumped intentionally from the cruise ship Carnival Fascination on May 19, will have to pay $10.000 for the rescue, reports Tu Noticia PR. According to the news website, the passenger who jumped overboard was from Puerto Rico and was on a Honeymoon cruise. The cruise ship had left Barbados sailing to Puerto Rico when the man jumped from Deck 10 with the excuse that he was "celebrating his honeymoon". 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted June 11, 2019 #2 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Hopefully banned from all cruise lines also. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWolver672 Posted June 11, 2019 #3 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Can a company legally fine someone and legally force them to pay it? A court fine will find you in jail if you refuse to pay it but what recourse would a Cruise Line have it not paid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted June 11, 2019 #4 Share Posted June 11, 2019 11 minutes ago, RWolver672 said: Can a company legally fine someone and legally force them to pay it? A court fine will find you in jail if you refuse to pay it but what recourse would a Cruise Line have it not paid? They can certainly charge his CC or bill him, whether they can collect is another question. Banning for life by all cruise lines seems much more appropriate. A shame they do not have other recourse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare sparks1093 Posted June 11, 2019 #5 Share Posted June 11, 2019 9 minutes ago, jimbo5544 said: They can certainly charge his CC or bill him, whether they can collect is another question. Banning for life by all cruise lines seems much more appropriate. A shame they do not have other recourse. My thoughts exactly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonernstlouis Posted June 11, 2019 #6 Share Posted June 11, 2019 57 minutes ago, RWolver672 said: Can a company legally fine someone and legally force them to pay it? Only 1,999 more jumpers away from offsetting the fine Carnival was assessed. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakyBeef Posted June 11, 2019 #7 Share Posted June 11, 2019 The article does imply that he is banned from ever sailing any of he World's Leading Cruise Lines brands: "Carnival Cruise Line has a strict policy for such a stupid and reckless behavior, especially when a person puts his own life at risk he/she are banned from ever sailing onboard Carnival cruise ships and their brands. However, this is the first time a passenger is charged for the rescue by a cruise line." I applaud the levying of the fine and hope that they are able to collect it from him. In this age of idiocy for the sake of social media views / followers / likes, there is more and more of this stupid, reckless, selfish behaviour that ends up costing others to rescue/ put the "Look At Me" idiots back together. I've felt for a very long time that all of these kinds of rescues (not just cruise ship related) should be charged to the perpetrators. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pe4all Posted June 11, 2019 #8 Share Posted June 11, 2019 All cruise lines should ban him from sailing ever again. Blacklist him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micahs Grandad Posted June 11, 2019 #9 Share Posted June 11, 2019 52 minutes ago, jimbo5544 said: They can certainly charge his CC or bill him, whether they can collect is another question. Banning for life by all cruise lines seems much more appropriate. A shame they do not have other recourse. Hopefully he will be banned for life from all cruise lines for his own safety.Wonder if his wife realized she married such a dummy 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Kehote Posted June 11, 2019 #10 Share Posted June 11, 2019 45 minutes ago, soonernstlouis said: Only 1,999 more jumpers away from offsetting the fine Carnival was assessed. 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lottiegreen56 Posted June 11, 2019 #11 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Can't squeeze blood out of a turnip! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray98 Posted June 11, 2019 #12 Share Posted June 11, 2019 (edited) Good....go after him and garnish his wages if need be. Make it a long term miserable experience. Edited June 11, 2019 by ray98 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmukid87 Posted June 11, 2019 #13 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Has anyone gone in depth enough into the cruise ticket contract to see if there is any legal jargon tying the fine to them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplephenom Posted June 11, 2019 #14 Share Posted June 11, 2019 I'm glad this wasn't a suicide attempt. But ugh what a stupid decision. Do cruise lines have a no-cruise list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakyBeef Posted June 11, 2019 #15 Share Posted June 11, 2019 1 minute ago, purplephenom said: Do cruise lines have a no-cruise list? Yes, they most definitely do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplephenom Posted June 11, 2019 #16 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Just now, ShakyBeef said: Yes, they most definitely do. Good then I hope this person is on it. Does it apply to all cruise lines or does each family of lines have their own list? (I'm just asking out of curiosity, if you happen to know). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakyBeef Posted June 11, 2019 #17 Share Posted June 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, purplephenom said: Good then I hope this person is on it. Does it apply to all cruise lines or does each family of lines have their own list? (I'm just asking out of curiosity, if you happen to know). I do not know if cruise lines share their no-cruise lists with their competitors, but I would hope they do. I'm curious on that matter, too. The no-cruise list does cover all lines owned by any umbrella company, though. So, in this case, if he is on the list, he can not cruise on any of Carnival Corp.'s lines (World's Leading Cruise Lines). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabalon Posted June 11, 2019 #18 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Wow...just into the honeymoon and already trying to escape! 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IFightClouds Posted June 11, 2019 #19 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Think of it more as a charge for services than a fine. His rescue used carnival resources and he has to pay for that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmcathome Posted June 11, 2019 #20 Share Posted June 11, 2019 If you have ever read your cruise contract you will find probably they can make him pay for the resuce. I think the contract allows the cruise line to take his first born child Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ontheweb Posted June 11, 2019 #21 Share Posted June 11, 2019 I just wonder how they came up with the figure $10,,000. That seems arbitrary. And it would not surprise me that they will not be able to collect if they charge his credit card since what are the odds that he has a credit limit that high. And I see no other real way to collect as they are not a government entity that can enforce fines. And of course banning him for life is a no brainer. One would hope the lines other than the ones owned by Carnival join in that. It would seem to be in the best interest of all the lines to share this type of information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IFightClouds Posted June 11, 2019 #22 Share Posted June 11, 2019 They can collect in the same way that any private buisness or bank can collect on their debtors. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray98 Posted June 11, 2019 #23 Share Posted June 11, 2019 1 hour ago, ontheweb said: . And I see no other real way to collect as they are not a government entity that can enforce fines. There are countless ways to collect ranging from debt collection services to actually filing the debt in civil court for a judgement which gives the power to garnish wages. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted June 11, 2019 #24 Share Posted June 11, 2019 I don't believe Carnival fined him, as there is no legal means to do so. However, I've just seen another instance where the USCG fined a person for jumping off a cruise ship, and it was for "intentionally interfering with the safe operation of a ship". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinchem Posted June 11, 2019 #25 Share Posted June 11, 2019 How will the charge go through...as an excursion? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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