Mr&MrsBee Posted June 20, 2019 #1 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Just received this above notice. In the past was Celebrity only partially friendly? Was there an area where LBGTQ were not welcome? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Lady Arwen Posted June 20, 2019 #2 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Where did you see this, please? On their website or a travel agency. Celebrity has always welcomed everyone regardless of sexual orientation, so this is not new. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mynki Posted June 20, 2019 #3 Share Posted June 20, 2019 17 minutes ago, Mr&MrsBee said: Just received this above notice. In the past was Celebrity only partially friendly? Was there an area where LBGTQ were not welcome? I'd like to think that in 2019 all pax and staff onboard were friendly towards LGBT people. There's no room for Troglodytes in this day and age. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruisestitch Posted June 20, 2019 #4 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Can’t really react appropriately without knowing the source...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bEwAbG Posted June 20, 2019 #5 Share Posted June 20, 2019 We know it bothers OP that X caters to the LGBTQ+ crowd in their advertisements based on past remarks. Those who are not gay will never understand the feeling of being invited on a family vacation and having to politely decline because of a real concern for your safety based on the destination due solely to your sexual orientation. For many of us, cruise lines being open & accepting to their gay customers has been a real godsend. Even if a port of call has issues, you can at least count on a safe environment on the ship. Beyond that, there are many areas of the world in which being perceived as gay can put you in just as much danger. Until homophobia, whether via outright hostility or the type the OP peddles, is erased, anyone is at risk. 30 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestLakeGirl Posted June 20, 2019 #6 Share Posted June 20, 2019 I am confused, what is being discussed? What is the source of the announcement? Was it homophobic in tone? Or celebratory? Was it factual or inflammatory? Is it old news? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mom says Posted June 20, 2019 #7 Share Posted June 20, 2019 OP, cite or quote your source or it didn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zitsky Posted June 20, 2019 #8 Share Posted June 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Mr&MrsBee said: Just received this above notice. In the past was Celebrity only partially friendly? Was there an area where LBGTQ were not welcome? OP, here is a nice article for you with some nice pics: https://theglobetrotterguys.com/2018/09/17/are-celebrity-cruises-gay-friendly/ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fogfog Posted June 20, 2019 #9 Share Posted June 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Mr&MrsBee said: Just received this above notice. In the past was Celebrity only partially friendly? Was there an area where LBGTQ were not welcome? Not sure what you are seeing It is "pride" month so lots of pandering by marketing schemes likely --PLenty of other cruise lines putting rainbow flags on their logos for the month etc Celebrity has always been inclusive. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwcruisers Posted June 20, 2019 #10 Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 hour ago, bEwAbG said: Until homophobia, whether via outright hostility or the type the OP peddles, is erased, anyone is at risk. Huh? Did I miss something? I just thought that the OP asked a simple question.😕 BTW -- it's one that I might have asked, as well. We have cruised on X for nearly 10 years. In fact, several of those cruises have been with gay friends, whose preferential cruise line is X. I've never heard a complaint from them, or anyone else, about ANY negative treatment of the LGBTQ community -- by anyone associated with Celebrity. Granted, some of the ports that X cruises to are less than welcoming -- but, most passengers who would be affected know where those are. 1 hour ago, bEwAbG said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestLakeGirl Posted June 20, 2019 #11 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Was a post removed by rhe moderators? This is very confusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bEwAbG Posted June 20, 2019 #12 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Just part of a pattern of harping on the issue over many threads. Those comments are often deleted because they're off topic & derail threads to which they're posted. The context is always "Celebrity [or LLP] is catering to gay people to the detriment of the cruise line", i.e., stay in the closet and shut up about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StolidCruiser Posted June 20, 2019 #13 Share Posted June 20, 2019 34 minutes ago, zitsky said: OP, here is a nice article for you with some nice pics: https://theglobetrotterguys.com/2018/09/17/are-celebrity-cruises-gay-friendly/ Oh, the irony. I literally laughed out loud. Thanks for one of the best retorts I've read in a very long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zitsky Posted June 20, 2019 #14 Share Posted June 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, StolidCruiser said: Oh, the irony. I literally laughed out loud. Thanks for one of the best retorts I've read in a very long time. Thanks. I'm glad I could brighten your day. It was easy to find. I hope OP likes it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bEwAbG Posted June 20, 2019 #15 Share Posted June 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, zitsky said: I hope OP likes it. I think that's probably the thrust of the issue. Either Mrs Bee notices that Mr Bee comes alive at the sight of such imagery or Mr Bee is putting on a show for the benefit of Mrs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestLakeGirl Posted June 20, 2019 #16 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Oh, i understand now. I went back to their posting history, where i also found that they said they are done with cruising on Celebrity, and yet, here they are on this board? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevInPitt Posted June 20, 2019 #17 Share Posted June 20, 2019 52 minutes ago, WestLakeGirl said: Oh, i understand now. I went back to their posting history, where i also found that they said they are done with cruising on Celebrity, and yet, here they are on this board? It's interesting that on April 1, they state "looks like no more Celebrity for us after 10 years". Then on April 20, in a roll call thread for a cruise December 13, 2019, they state "Guess its time to jump in again.". There are a plethora of other posts finding issue with the direction and management of the Celebrity line - mostly due to a supposed "catering to special interest groups". Apparently, those issues aren't significant enough to actually stay true to your word when you say "I'm done". Must sound great to say at the time (because that's how people know you're serious, gosh darn it!) but it comes back to haunt you when your next gripe come up. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DebInAntigua Posted June 20, 2019 #18 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Hmmmm, I didn't realize that X hosted a big fleet-wide Pride Party celebration in June each year. Interesting. The same as I wouldn't be thrilled to be on a cruise with a huge group of realtors, or some other special interest group, I'm not too keen about being on a cruise where there are big, group-focused LGBT parades and parties. We're cruising 2 weeks in June 2020. Guess we'll just have to watch to see when that year's annual Pride Party at Sea is planned, and make reservations for specialty dining or something else suitably quiet to avoid the party atmosphere. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mynki Posted June 20, 2019 #19 Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 hour ago, WestLakeGirl said: they are done with cruising on Celebrity, and yet, here they are on this board? To be fair I think that applies to 10% or even more of the regular posters! 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestLakeGirl Posted June 20, 2019 #20 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Oh, realtors are the worst!😁. But serioususly, parties like those are nearly always held on deck, or, in bad weather, in the Sky Lounge, and later at night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mynki Posted June 20, 2019 #21 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Scroll down to LLP's tweet from May 16th. Watch the video and if you look real close you'll see LLP, Sue Denning and Mr & Mrs Bee. https://twitter.com/lisalutoffperlo?lang=en 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestLakeGirl Posted June 20, 2019 #22 Share Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) In that case, nor does Christmas need to be celebrated among others who have different lifestyles, beliefs and opinions ??? and what about drunken New Years Celebrations, when not everyone celebrates the new year on the same day. Edited June 20, 2019 by WestLakeGirl 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwcruisers Posted June 20, 2019 #23 Share Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) 44 minutes ago, DebInAntigua said: The same as I wouldn't be thrilled to be on a cruise with a huge group of realtors, or some other special interest group, I'm not too keen about being on a cruise where there are big, group-focused LGBT parades and parties. We're cruising 2 weeks in June 2020. Guess we'll just have to watch to see when that year's annual Pride Party at Sea is planned, and make reservations for specialty dining or something else suitably quiet to avoid the party atmosphere. OK -- I have been on an X sailing, with a large group of Pied-Piper cruisers. Had I not been told by a friend (who was part of the group), I would never have guessed. I had noticed that it was almost impossible to get a seat at the Martini Bar, and there seemed to be a lot of good-looking, impeccably dressed men onboard -- but that was it. No raucous parties, no parades -- absolutely nothing to make any other passengers uncomfortable. My advice: if you find that there is a parade, or any other public event that you don't want to participate in -- just don't go. Edited June 20, 2019 by wwcruisers 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zitsky Posted June 20, 2019 #24 Share Posted June 20, 2019 25 minutes ago, tallnthensome said: I couldn’t care less but and on the other hand, why do you think people should be keen on any LGBT parades aboard? Debinantigu’s comment was not inappropriate and has every right to her opinion. In fact, I would bet that the majority of non LGBT passengers would not want to be on a ship with parades and parties of this type. I have zero issues with gay people or gay cruisers but it seems to me any more that those who are spend more time forcing or suggesting others accept it now-a-days then those who are against it spend resisting it. There are many people that don’t like or accept that lifestyle no matter what, maybe the OP, and that includes when they are on a cruise. Again, I couldn’t care less but others don’t feel that way and feel it doesn’t need to be celebrated around others. You seem open minded. Are you worried that someone's glitter might fall on you, and then people will think you are one of them? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare hcat Posted June 20, 2019 #25 Share Posted June 20, 2019 35 minutes ago, DebInAntigua said: Absolutely. I dislike loud parties and crowds, and especially drunks. Deb.. You have a right to your position...we dislike cruising with any large groups including corporate outings, dancing groups, religious groups, large community groups, reunions, cooking celebrity cruises etc, They take over venues, get preferred dining times, etc Those not with the group are pretty much left out and have a diminished experience as staff, entertainers etc, cater to members of the big group. We try to avoid cruises with big groups if we can as well as spring breakers and school vacations We also dislike crowds, loud parties and drunks.. reasons we enjoy cruising on X! No idea what's with Mrs Bee...but do not follow her posts and have no interest in them ???? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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