Aus Traveller Posted February 7, 2020 #301 Share Posted February 7, 2020 1 minute ago, kathy49 said: this is unbelievable...the passengers still are only being told 20. If this new total is correct clearly many were infected from contact over the last two weeks...what a horrific situation and passengers are not being told. I don't think we can assume that these people became infected while in quarantine. The 41 new cases reported could have become infected while the original virus-carrier (an 80 year-old man who disembarked in Hong Kong) was on the ship. Maybe the tests done on all the passengers and crew have only now shown up as positive. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libertybelle41 Posted February 7, 2020 #302 Share Posted February 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, Aus Traveller said: Apparently someone posted a photo of the wine that was delivered to their cabin.🙂 I think it would be a smart move for the ship to deliver wine or other alcoholic drinks (in limited quantities) to every cabin as requested. It would help dull the pain. Truth!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perditax Posted February 7, 2020 #303 Share Posted February 7, 2020 15 minutes ago, Aus Traveller said: Australian ABC news has this report Diamond Princess cruise ship reports dozens of new coronavirus cases Posted 8 minutes ago Forty-one new coronavirus infections have been confirmed on board the Diamond Princess cruise ship docked at Yokohama, according to Japan’s health ministry. It brings the total number of confirmed cases on board to 61. This “total number of cases on board” phrasing is misleading, as infected passengers are removed from the ship and transported to hospitals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kathy49 Posted February 7, 2020 #304 Share Posted February 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Aus Traveller said: I don't think we can assume that these people became infected while in quarantine. The 41 new cases reported could have become infected while the original virus-carrier (an 80 year-old man who disembarked in Hong Kong) was on the ship. Maybe the tests done on all the passengers and crew have only now shown up as positive. they are only on day 2 of quarantine..I don't think all can be traced to the 80 year old guy...they did say he was using the pool and people were in there with him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet72Vet Posted February 7, 2020 #305 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Here's the link... https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-07/spike-of-coronavirus-cases-on-board-cruise-ship/11943302 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aus Traveller Posted February 7, 2020 #306 Share Posted February 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, perditax said: This “total number of cases on board” phrasing is misleading, as infected passengers are removed from the ship and transported to hospitals. Agreed. ABC News reporting "confirmed cases on board to 61" maybe should have been worded "confirmed cases who have contacted the virus on board the ship is now 61". The end result is the same, even though the original 20 infected people have already gone to hospital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perditax Posted February 7, 2020 #307 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Just now, Aus Traveller said: Agreed. ABC News reporting "confirmed cases on board to 61" maybe should have been worded "confirmed cases who have contacted the virus on board the ship is now 61". The end result is the same, even though the original 20 infected people have already gone to hospital. I just feel like some people will get the impression that the other passengers are being forced to stay on some sort of plague ship with infected folks in the next cabin over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aus Traveller Posted February 7, 2020 #308 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Just now, perditax said: I just feel like some people will get the impression that the other passengers are being forced to stay on some sort of plague ship with infected folks in the next cabin over. I see your point. I imagine that these cases of the virus will also be transported to hospital. My heart goes out to them. I cannot imagine how they are feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushka Posted February 7, 2020 #309 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Yes. Just read 41 NEW positive tests. This will swamp their medical system too. Surely the Aussies when they finally get off will then have to go to CI. And I heard today, goodness knows if true, that the 14 day period will be extended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kathy49 Posted February 7, 2020 #310 Share Posted February 7, 2020 41 new cases.....that is an extraordinary leap in number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viv0828 Posted February 7, 2020 #311 Share Posted February 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, kathy49 said: 41 new cases.....that is an extraordinary leap in number. so sorry for those folks and everyone on the ship. what a feeling of helplessness. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aus Traveller Posted February 7, 2020 #312 Share Posted February 7, 2020 32 minutes ago, kathy49 said: they are only on day 2 of quarantine..I don't think all can be traced to the 80 year old guy...they did say he was using the pool and people were in there with him... This is more from the report about the 41 extra cases on the Diamond Princess. This indicates that these people have not become infected during the quarantine period. As Japanese health officials concluded the screening of the 273 passengers potentially exposed to the virus, they said that 61 had tested positive. The passengers were removed from the ship and taken to medical facilities. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just_Westy Posted February 7, 2020 #313 Share Posted February 7, 2020 This is a nightmare for all concerned, wife and I nearly booked this cruise but changed our mind now with 61 confirmed infections I think we dodged a bullet. Hope all onboard are safe, cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aus Traveller Posted February 7, 2020 #314 Share Posted February 7, 2020 14 minutes ago, kathy49 said: 41 new cases.....that is an extraordinary leap in number. No. It just means that there were at least 61 people infected, not the ten originally identified. They have all been taken to hospital. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kathy49 Posted February 7, 2020 #315 Share Posted February 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Aus Traveller said: This is more from the report about the 41 extra cases on the Diamond Princess. This indicates that these people have not become infected during the quarantine period. As Japanese health officials concluded the screening of the 273 passengers potentially exposed to the virus, they said that 61 had tested positive. The passengers were removed from the ship and taken to medical facilities. I don't quite understand the Japanese statement...273 passengers potentially exposed...I guess I thought that potentially every passenger could have been exposed during the 2 week cruise that was coming to an end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aus Traveller Posted February 7, 2020 #316 Share Posted February 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Just_Westy said: This is a nightmare for all concerned, wife and I nearly booked this cruise but changed our mind now with 61 confirmed infections I think we dodged a bullet. Hope all onboard are safe, cheers Maybe you should buy a lottery ticket. 🙂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aus Traveller Posted February 7, 2020 #317 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Just now, kathy49 said: I don't quite understand the Japanese statement...273 passengers potentially exposed...I guess I thought that potentially every passenger could have been exposed during the 2 week cruise that was coming to an end? Maybe the 273 were people who they identified as sharing a dining table or in some other way were close to the man who brought the virus on board. (Sorry to word it like that, but I don't know how else to put it.) In the first lot of ten there was one crew member. He might have been the steward servicing the cabin where the man stayed. I agree with your comment, that others on board could easily have been infected as well. We don't know if the Japanese authorities are going to test all the passengers and crew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just_Westy Posted February 7, 2020 #318 Share Posted February 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Aus Traveller said: We don't know if the Japanese authorities are going to test all the passengers and crew. If the virus can be transmitted before people are symptomatic as has been suggested I would think they will test everyone on the ship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aus Traveller Posted February 7, 2020 #319 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Just now, Just_Westy said: If the virus can be transmitted before people are symptomatic as has been suggested I would think they will test everyone on the ship. That seems logical to me also. 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare azbirdmom Posted February 7, 2020 #320 Share Posted February 7, 2020 The new cases seem to be from the original group tested if what has been reported by The Guardian is accurate: The new cases were among 171 remaining test results. The results of all 273 tests have now been confirmed.About 3,700 passengers and crew are aboard the ship, but tests were conducted only on people who displayed symptoms or had been in close contact with a Hong Kong man who tested positive after leaving the ship at the end of last month.Twenty-one of the 41 patients are Japanese, the health minister, Katsunobu Kate, told reporters on Friday. The nationalities of the remaining passengers were not immediately available.The age range of the newly diagnosed patients suggests that older passengers are particularly vulnerable.The new cases include three people in their 20s to 40s, three in their 50s, eight in their 60s, 21 in their 70s and six in their 80s, Kato said.The health ministry said the patients would be transferred to hospitals in Tokyo and several other prefectures, according to public broadcaster NHK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kathy49 Posted February 7, 2020 #321 Share Posted February 7, 2020 David Abel who has been reporting on facebook said no one has come near the cabin to do any further medical checks...they came one on the first day and took temp...asked if they are coughing and left. Just a few minutes ago 2 ambulances pulled up and took people away. I expect some people are just going to get sick during this with other things to...people with heart conditions...high HP...I mean this is a very tough situation and usually on these cruises passengers tend to be over 50. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
npcl Posted February 7, 2020 #322 Share Posted February 7, 2020 41 minutes ago, Aus Traveller said: Agreed. ABC News reporting "confirmed cases on board to 61" maybe should have been worded "confirmed cases who have contacted the virus on board the ship is now 61". The end result is the same, even though the original 20 infected people have already gone to hospital. They would have certainly contracted the illness during the cruise, but not during the time that they have been quarantined. These are just the results as tests have been getting returned. During the quarantine period there most likely be other that develop symptoms and need to be tested. But with a disease with 14 day incubation time they could have contracted the virus anytime since Jan 23. Remember they have only tested the 200-300 most considered to be at risk. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kathy49 Posted February 7, 2020 #323 Share Posted February 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, npcl said: They would have certainly contracted the illness during the cruise, but not during the time that they have been quarantined. These are just the results as tests have been getting returned. During the quarantine period there most likely be other that develop symptoms and need to be tested. But with a disease with 14 day incubation time they could have contracted the virus anytime since Jan 23. Remember they have only tested the 200-300 most considered to be at risk. "Remember they have only tested the 200-300 most considered to be at risk." now that is concerning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V_icki_e Posted February 7, 2020 #324 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Diamond Princess cruise due to depart March 1st has just been cancelled ... a passenger kindly advised us via our roll call - I'm due to leave March 15. Think I might put the suitcase away 😥 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viv0828 Posted February 7, 2020 #325 Share Posted February 7, 2020 could the virus be spreading through the air ducting systems. there probably are no filters that would remove very small particles. just asking if there are any experts here that might be able to answer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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