mac66 Posted April 10, 2023 #2526 Share Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) 37 minutes ago, WeMissSeaView said: I bought 200 shares in March 2020. On my next cruise later this month, I will have made more in stock OBC then the shares cost me. There have been zero dividends, but I am happy with the stock. The lowest stock price was $22/share in 2020. The highest was $133. Average is $66. 200 shares would have been between $4400 & $13200 minimum. To recoup that you would have had to have done between 44 and 132 cruises between then and now. Congratulations. Edited April 10, 2023 by mac66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another_Critic Posted April 10, 2023 #2527 Share Posted April 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, mac66 said: The lowest stock price was $22/share in 2020. 200 shares would have been $4400. To recoup that you would have had to have done 44 cruises between then and now. Congratulations. Or less with 14+ night cruises ($250 OBC). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeMissSeaView Posted April 10, 2023 #2528 Share Posted April 10, 2023 49 minutes ago, mac66 said: The lowest stock price was $22/share in 2020. The highest was $133. Average is $66. 200 shares would have been between $4400 & $13200 minimum. To recoup that you would have had to have done between 44 and 132 cruises between then and now. Congratulations. Stock hit bottom at 19 and I bought at 21. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wineaux007 Posted April 10, 2023 #2529 Share Posted April 10, 2023 44 minutes ago, WeMissSeaView said: Stock hit bottom at 19 and I bought at 21. We bought at $16 back in 2008, and then it went down to $5. Wife said let's buy more, but what does she know? 🤪 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted April 19, 2023 #2530 Share Posted April 19, 2023 " Jason Liberty in his first year as president and CEO of Royal Caribbean Group received compensation valued at $10.76m. This was down from the $13.03m in 2021 when he was CFO due to the lower value of his 2022 stock awards — $7m, versus $10.5m the year before. In 2022, Liberty's salary rose to $1.2m, up from $950,000 when he was CFO, and he received a bonus of $2.34m, up from $1.37m. He also received 'other compensation' of $219,402 including the installation cost of a security system at his residence, an auto lease, the periodic use of a car and driver for commuting, and other benefits. Michael Bayley The company's second most highly compensated officer was Michael Bayley, president and CEO, Royal Caribbean International, with $7.76m, compared to $17.55m in 2021 when his stock awards were valued at $14.99m, way higher than the $5m in 2022. HIs salary was $1,046,849, a 5% raise from 2021. Lisa Lutoff-Perlo Lisa Lutoff-Perlo, president and CEO, Celebrity Cruises, received compensation valued at $4.75m, down from $10.41m in 2021 when her stock awards were worth $8.25m. In 2022, Lutoff-Perlo's stock awards totaled $2.74m. Her salary was $858,416, 5% higher than in 2021. Harri Kulovaara Harri Kulovaara, EVP maritime, Royal Caribbean Group, received compensation valued at $3.61m, on par with 2021. His salary was $847,948, up 5%. Kulovaara is entitled to a bonus of $150,000 per ship delivered during the year so his bonus includes $300,000 for the two ships handed over in 2022. Naftali Holtz CFO Naftali Holtz joined the company's named executive officers for the first time in 2022 with total compensation valued at $2.81m. This includes a salary of $675,000. Richard Fain Royal Caribbean Group Chairman Richard Fain received total compensation valued at $300,006, down from the $15.81m in 2021 when he also served as CEO. Fain's 2022 compensation was solely related to his work as a company director: 100,000 in fees and a $200,006 stock award." Jason Liberty's 2022 compensation valued at $10.76m (seatrade-cruise.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted April 19, 2023 #2531 Share Posted April 19, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Biker19 said: " Jason Liberty in his first year as president and CEO of Royal Caribbean Group received compensation valued at $10.76m. This was down from the $13.03m in 2021 when he was CFO due to the lower value of his 2022 stock awards — $7m, versus $10.5m the year before. In 2022, Liberty's salary rose to $1.2m, up from $950,000 when he was CFO, and he received a bonus of $2.34m, up from $1.37m. He also received 'other compensation' of $219,402 including the installation cost of a security system at his residence, an auto lease, the periodic use of a car and driver for commuting, and other benefits. Michael Bayley The company's second most highly compensated officer was Michael Bayley, president and CEO, Royal Caribbean International, with $7.76m, compared to $17.55m in 2021 when his stock awards were valued at $14.99m, way higher than the $5m in 2022. HIs salary was $1,046,849, a 5% raise from 2021. Lisa Lutoff-Perlo Lisa Lutoff-Perlo, president and CEO, Celebrity Cruises, received compensation valued at $4.75m, down from $10.41m in 2021 when her stock awards were worth $8.25m. In 2022, Lutoff-Perlo's stock awards totaled $2.74m. Her salary was $858,416, 5% higher than in 2021. Harri Kulovaara Harri Kulovaara, EVP maritime, Royal Caribbean Group, received compensation valued at $3.61m, on par with 2021. His salary was $847,948, up 5%. Kulovaara is entitled to a bonus of $150,000 per ship delivered during the year so his bonus includes $300,000 for the two ships handed over in 2022. Naftali Holtz CFO Naftali Holtz joined the company's named executive officers for the first time in 2022 with total compensation valued at $2.81m. This includes a salary of $675,000. Richard Fain Royal Caribbean Group Chairman Richard Fain received total compensation valued at $300,006, down from the $15.81m in 2021 when he also served as CEO. Fain's 2022 compensation was solely related to his work as a company director: 100,000 in fees and a $200,006 stock award." Jason Liberty's 2022 compensation valued at $10.76m (seatrade-cruise.com) Just numbers to us, does it really matter? Pretty sure none of what they are doing is really worth what they are getting paid for. Edited April 19, 2023 by Jimbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDawg Posted April 19, 2023 #2532 Share Posted April 19, 2023 32 minutes ago, Jimbo said: Just numbers to us, does it really matter? Pretty sure none of what they are doing is really worth what they are getting paid for. But @Jimbo, are any of us worth what we are getting (got) paid for?😉 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted April 20, 2023 #2533 Share Posted April 20, 2023 On 4/7/2023 at 9:13 PM, grandgeezer said: You got 50+ free beers and cocktails using just your $100 shareholder OBC? That’s the way it reads. If so, no need for a drink package. Or is this the 50+ drinks talking? Can't help how you read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted April 20, 2023 #2534 Share Posted April 20, 2023 On 4/10/2023 at 10:02 AM, firefly333 said: And like me you probably got that $100 obc x many cruises. For me let's say 13 cruises or more so lets say $1300. .. I'm probably down but the obc makes up for the stock up and downs. Hopefully someday it will turn a profit again. Now that the UWC is available as 1 mini segments, some folks booking it that way and are expecting 17 OBC's totalling around $3500 I'm kinda expecting them to limit the total to $1000. Who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted April 20, 2023 #2535 Share Posted April 20, 2023 On 4/10/2023 at 2:11 PM, yogimax said: Thank you. For once, someone who is willing to admit they are losing money on a stock trade. Most of the time it's boast and brag on this board. You should visit the Cadino Royale threads🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandgeezer Posted April 20, 2023 #2536 Share Posted April 20, 2023 4 hours ago, John&LaLa said: Can't help how you read it. How do you think I read it? I read it exactly the way it was written, nothing assumed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted April 20, 2023 #2537 Share Posted April 20, 2023 1 hour ago, grandgeezer said: How do you think I read it? I read it exactly the way it was written, nothing assumed. It was more of a reference to your overall disdain to a product you no longer find valuable It covered a littany of your complaints😇 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted April 21, 2023 #2538 Share Posted April 21, 2023 " Royal Caribbean Group released its 15th annual Seastainability Report outlining the company’s progress and performance across its three wholly owned brands – Royal Caribbean International, Celebrity Cruises and Silversea Cruises. “As we advance on our sustainability journey, our strategic priorities remain rooted in creating business value and uplifting our employees, guests and the communities we visit,” said Jason Liberty, president and CEO of Royal Caribbean Group. “Through collaboration and innovation, we continue to make great strides in our commitment to delivering great vacation experiences responsibly.” The targets in the report highlight Royal Caribbean Group’s progress in reducing emissions, promoting the safety of guests and employees and the commitment to sustainability and protecting the oceans. According to the 2022 Seastainability Report, one of the short-term goals is to reduce carbon intensity by double digits by 2025 compared to 2019. Other key targets of the 2022 report include: Signing an agreement with Mærsk McKinney Møller Center for Zero Carbon Shipping; Completing the first renewable diesel pilot in the U.S. on the Navigator of the Seas; Launching the world’s first net-zero cruise terminal in Galveston, Texas; Creating a new Executive Diversity Council to prioritize DEI (Diversity, Equity and Inclusion) initiatives; Achieving gender pay equity with 99.98 percent of women equally compensated compared to male employees at Royal Caribbean Group Launching the Royal Caribbean Kickstarter Program to support tourism related entrepreneurs in The Bahamas Increasing the number of sustainable tours certified by the Global Sustainable Tourism Council (GSTC); Growing the company’s sustainable seafood sourcing – 83 percent Marine Stewardship Council (MSC) and 75 percent Aquaculture Stewardship Council (ASC) certified Renewing its partnership with World Wildlife Fund (WWF) and committing an additional $5 million to preserve ocean health Detailed Royal Caribbean Group’s 2022 Seastainability Report can be found here www.royalcaribbeangroup.com/sustainability." Royal Caribbean Group Releases Annual Seastainability Report - Cruise Industry News | Cruise News Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBX-Cruisers Posted April 21, 2023 #2539 Share Posted April 21, 2023 I have been unsuccessful getting the Shareholders OBC in several past tries. I got the message that my booking included a $50/cabin OBC and that I am not entitled to an additional amount because of my stock ownership. Is this a common problem or is there something I'm missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morecruisesplz Posted April 21, 2023 #2540 Share Posted April 21, 2023 22 minutes ago, OBX-Cruisers said: I have been unsuccessful getting the Shareholders OBC in several past tries. I got the message that my booking included a $50/cabin OBC and that I am not entitled to an additional amount because of my stock ownership. Is this a common problem or is there something I'm missing? Ugh! Following for info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BermudaBound2014 Posted April 21, 2023 #2541 Share Posted April 21, 2023 34 minutes ago, OBX-Cruisers said: I have been unsuccessful getting the Shareholders OBC in several past tries. I got the message that my booking included a $50/cabin OBC and that I am not entitled to an additional amount because of my stock ownership. Is this a common problem or is there something I'm missing? Are you using any type of casino offer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthGrady Posted April 21, 2023 #2542 Share Posted April 21, 2023 1 hour ago, OBX-Cruisers said: I have been unsuccessful getting the Shareholders OBC in several past tries. I got the message that my booking included a $50/cabin OBC and that I am not entitled to an additional amount because of my stock ownership. Is this a common problem or is there something I'm missing? I have sent them OBC request several times since buying stock back in 2020. Responses have ranged from none at all to a confirmation a few hour later and everything in between. I don't get casino offers, all of my cruises are booked at market rate or with discounts offered to everyone. If the discounts or group related OBC are the reason for not getting the shareholder OBC I could understand that, I just wish they would do a better job with communication. Sending a request and hearing crickets chirp gets annoying. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tlbecker1 Posted April 22, 2023 #2543 Share Posted April 22, 2023 5 hours ago, OBX-Cruisers said: I have been unsuccessful getting the Shareholders OBC in several past tries. I got the message that my booking included a $50/cabin OBC and that I am not entitled to an additional amount because of my stock ownership. Is this a common problem or is there something I'm missing? We have been on 30+ cruises since we purchased stock and I have never had any problem with my OBC. Many of the cruises were booked onboard with additional OBC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tlbecker1 Posted April 22, 2023 #2544 Share Posted April 22, 2023 4 hours ago, DarthGrady said: I have sent them OBC request several times since buying stock back in 2020. Responses have ranged from none at all to a confirmation a few hour later and everything in between. I don't get casino offers, all of my cruises are booked at market rate or with discounts offered to everyone. If the discounts or group related OBC are the reason for not getting the shareholder OBC I could understand that, I just wish they would do a better job with communication. Sending a request and hearing crickets chirp gets annoying. I am sorry that this has happened to you. I have never had any issues regardless of how it was booked or any additional OBC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseguy1016 Posted April 22, 2023 #2545 Share Posted April 22, 2023 6 hours ago, OBX-Cruisers said: I have been unsuccessful getting the Shareholders OBC in several past tries. I got the message that my booking included a $50/cabin OBC and that I am not entitled to an additional amount because of my stock ownership. Is this a common problem or is there something I'm missing? The policy used to be that the shareholder's OBC was not combinable with other discounts or OBC offers. Royal Caribbean changed that policy in 2018(?) so that the shareholder's OBC is now combinable with other discounts. I don't know why you have been unsuccessful unless it was before the policy was changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morecruisesplz Posted April 22, 2023 #2546 Share Posted April 22, 2023 23 minutes ago, cruiseguy1016 said: The policy used to be that the shareholder's OBC was not combinable with other discounts or OBC offers. Royal Caribbean changed that policy in 2018(?) so that the shareholder's OBC is now combinable with other discounts. I don't know why you have been unsuccessful unless it was before the policy was changed. Or this could be another announced but still painful cut back by Royal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tlbecker1 Posted April 22, 2023 #2547 Share Posted April 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, fredmdcruisers said: Or this could be another announced but still painful cut back by Royal. I don’t think so. I have OBC until 2-25. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelblu Posted April 28, 2023 #2548 Share Posted April 28, 2023 Share price pop of $3+ per share. J P Morgan set a price target of $94 per share. Hooray for us investors, at least for today.😄 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelblu Posted April 28, 2023 #2549 Share Posted April 28, 2023 (edited) On 4/21/2023 at 9:04 PM, Tlbecker1 said: I don’t think so. I have OBC until 2-25. I have OBC for my October, '24 Symphony sail and a few early '25 of both shareholder's and on board booking OBCs. Simply can't beat it, plus I have a $50 OBC for their screw up on the so called "package".🤣 Edited April 28, 2023 by nelblu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise5life Posted May 4, 2023 #2550 Share Posted May 4, 2023 Just wow. What’s sparking todays gains. 4.80 as of right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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