LittleFish1976 Posted June 26, 2020 #1651 Share Posted June 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, The_Big_M said: Got a link? This isn't from WHO but from CSIRO. I, for one, feel so depressed whenever I see comments saying there won't be a vaccine so I'm sharing the information that the CSIRO has put out. I just got this today in their newsletter. The scientists working on this seem to feel confident that they have a very good chance of success. https://blog.csiro.au/two-vaccine-candidates-acdp/?utm_source=Snapshot-June-2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted June 26, 2020 #1652 Share Posted June 26, 2020 23 minutes ago, The_Big_M said: Got a link? From Tedros in the same article - "Hoping that there will be a vaccine, the estimate is we may have a vaccine within one year. If accelerated, it could be even less than that, but by a couple of months. That's what scientists are saying," he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted June 26, 2020 #1653 Share Posted June 26, 2020 https://www.9news.com.au/world/coronavirus-updates-us-doctor-anthony-fauci-says-covid-19-vaccine-could-be-ready-end-of-year/eae07214-1f45-4119-9230-fee34ba114e5 Not sure I believe much of what comes out of the US though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porky55 Posted June 26, 2020 #1654 Share Posted June 26, 2020 1 hour ago, MicCanberra said: One issue is that even if the Vaccine is ready to use in 12 months, it may take another 12 months for people to actually access the vaccine, front line workers and the elderly, would be first off the ranks to get it.. Isn’t that most of us on CC, Mic 😆 “front line workers and the elderly, would be first off the ranks to get it..” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted June 26, 2020 #1655 Share Posted June 26, 2020 16 minutes ago, Porky55 said: Isn’t that most of us on CC, Mic 😆 “front line workers and the elderly, would be first off the ranks to get it..” By elderly I mean people of my parents generation, 70 +, so yeah maybe it is CC members 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare OzKiwiJJ Posted June 26, 2020 Author #1656 Share Posted June 26, 2020 17 minutes ago, MicCanberra said: By elderly I mean people of my parents generation, 70 +, so yeah maybe it is CC members Personally I'm refusing to be elderly until I reach 90! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MMDown Under Posted June 26, 2020 #1657 Share Posted June 26, 2020 1 hour ago, LittleFish1976 said: This isn't from WHO but from CSIRO. I, for one, feel so depressed whenever I see comments saying there won't be a vaccine so I'm sharing the information that the CSIRO has put out. I just got this today in their newsletter. The scientists working on this seem to feel confident that they have a very good chance of success. https://blog.csiro.au/two-vaccine-candidates-acdp/?utm_source=Snapshot-June-2020 Thanks. Fascinating! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vader1111 Posted June 26, 2020 #1658 Share Posted June 26, 2020 16 hours ago, Blackduck59 said: I think you took my meaning a little out of context, what I meant is, many people are saying everything should stay in limbo until there is a vaccine. My point was we need to find a way of living around this thing should an effective vaccine not materialize. It may be the case that there is no vaccine, and we need to find a way of living with CV-19 as a "new normal". However, the Aus Govt is currently working on the assumption that a vaccine will become available, probably sometime in 2021. If that turns out to be a bad assumption, then they will have to start planning for a different reality - but for now, that's the assumption upon which they're basing their decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pully8 Posted June 26, 2020 #1659 Share Posted June 26, 2020 reading the latest updates was amazed about the testing regime for incoming people placed in hotels for 14 days. it was stated 30% refuse testing? now it will be mandatory. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docker123 Posted June 26, 2020 #1660 Share Posted June 26, 2020 (edited) Tasmania is planning to re-open interstate border on 24 July. Final decision based on public health advice. Start booking the Spirit for the big CC trek. https://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/tasmania-to-make-call-on-reopening-border/news-story/90f9585adf03072d0a9c1165d76d9672 Edited June 26, 2020 by Docker123 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSWP Posted June 26, 2020 #1661 Share Posted June 26, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, pully8 said: reading the latest updates was amazed about the testing regime for incoming people placed in hotels for 14 days. it was stated 30% refuse testing? now it will be mandatory. Will be like fingerprinting persons in custody who refuse to have their prints taken, in New South Wales (The Premier State)😊a magistrate can order them taken, which mean police forcibly restrain the person and take the prescribed fingerprints if they are still not cooperating . So will those who refuse the CoVid swab be held down by the CoVid Commandos and have the swab forced into their oracles? 🤑👮♂️ Edited June 26, 2020 by NSWP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By The Bay Posted June 26, 2020 #1662 Share Posted June 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, NSWP said: Will be like fingerprinting persons in custody who refuse to have their prints taken, in New South Wales (The Premier State)😊a magistrate can order them taken, which mean police forcibly restrain the person and take the prescribed fingerprints if they are still not cooperating . So will those who refuse the CoVid swab be held down by the CoVid Commandos and have the swab forced into their oracles? 🤑👮♂️ This development by the Doherty Institute in Melbourne could be a game changer. "And, in an Australian first and thanks to the efforts of the Doherty Institute, from next week we will be doing additional testing from the collection of saliva samples – providing a faster, easier and more comfortable test." Source 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSWP Posted June 26, 2020 #1663 Share Posted June 26, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, By The Bay said: This development by the Doherty Institute in Melbourne could be a game changer. "And, in an Australian first and thanks to the efforts of the Doherty Institute, from next week we will be doing additional testing from the collection of saliva samples – providing a faster, easier and more comfortable test." Source My word it will be, the present form of testing, like sticking swabs into peoples oracles is draconian and torturous. Edited June 26, 2020 by NSWP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare OzKiwiJJ Posted June 26, 2020 Author #1664 Share Posted June 26, 2020 1 hour ago, pully8 said: reading the latest updates was amazed about the testing regime for incoming people placed in hotels for 14 days. it was stated 30% refuse testing? now it will be mandatory. That is horrifying! If people refuse tests they should be kept in quarantine, at their cost, until they do agree to the tests. In fact if they refuse tests they should be billed for the whole quarantine stay. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare OzKiwiJJ Posted June 26, 2020 Author #1665 Share Posted June 26, 2020 55 minutes ago, By The Bay said: This development by the Doherty Institute in Melbourne could be a game changer. "And, in an Australian first and thanks to the efforts of the Doherty Institute, from next week we will be doing additional testing from the collection of saliva samples – providing a faster, easier and more comfortable test." Source It might also encourage more people in the general community to get tested. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare OzKiwiJJ Posted June 26, 2020 Author #1666 Share Posted June 26, 2020 I just saw elsewhere that Cunard's Queen Elizabeth is heading back to the UK from the Philippines. I think that's a clear indication Cunard doesn't think cruising will resume in Australia for the 20/21 season. I doubt they would head back up to the UK then turn around and come back here in November or whenever she was due to arrive. We're booked on her Auckland to Sydney late January. I guess that will be another cruise that gets cancelled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By The Bay Posted June 26, 2020 #1667 Share Posted June 26, 2020 7 minutes ago, OzKiwiJJ said: We're booked on her Auckland to Sydney late January. I guess that will be another cruise that gets cancelled. The sad reality that this virus has some time to run before cruising resumes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinbadThePorter Posted June 26, 2020 #1668 Share Posted June 26, 2020 9 minutes ago, OzKiwiJJ said: I just saw elsewhere that Cunard's Queen Elizabeth is heading back to the UK from the Philippines. Might be Bermuda instead, that's where she is registered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docker123 Posted June 26, 2020 #1669 Share Posted June 26, 2020 From the Cunard website: As a result of the continuing impact of Covid-19, Cunard has extended its pause in operations to sailings up to and including 1 November 2020 for Queen Mary 2 and Queen Victoria, and 23 November for Queen Elizabeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ondine Posted June 26, 2020 #1670 Share Posted June 26, 2020 That fits in with QE's itinerary in Australia. I am booked on December 1st departing Melbourne. Think her first trip is 25th Nov - a 6 nighter Melb to SA, Syd and I think Tas. Not very hopeful it will go ahead. Just wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleFish1976 Posted June 26, 2020 #1671 Share Posted June 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ondine said: That fits in with QE's itinerary in Australia. I am booked on December 1st departing Melbourne. Think her first trip is 25th Nov - a 6 nighter Melb to SA, Syd and I think Tas. Not very hopeful it will go ahead. Just wait and see. I think it was Brendan Murphy who said today that Australia's borders would (probably?) remain closed until there's a vaccine. I think that statement doesn't refer to a trans-Tasman bubble though. Alan Joyce this morning saying Qantas wouldn't be resuming flying international routes before next July. I've found the quote below from Murphy; in that context, I would suggest 'relatively near future' would mean by mid next year. Possibly take until end of next year to roll out the vaccines. At least we'll be able to enjoy our own backyard, travel-wise, not literally. But that too, of course. "To fully open the international border without any quarantining or any restrictions probably will require a vaccine to be able to adequately protect vulnerable people in the community," Professor Murphy said. "Until that happens, we're going to have some sort of border measures … and if we don't get a successful vaccine in the relatively near future, then we have to re-evaluate."' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare OzKiwiJJ Posted June 26, 2020 Author #1672 Share Posted June 26, 2020 46 minutes ago, SinbadThePorter said: Might be Bermuda instead, that's where she is registered. No, it specifically said Southhampton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pully8 Posted June 26, 2020 #1673 Share Posted June 26, 2020 we are hopefully of cruising again. vaccine might or not happen. like many i was surprised at the testing regime voluntary rules. probably people refuse for the discomfort and need for repeated testing. once tested does the clock get reset to 14 days? also the cost factor of housing people in quarantine. some have requested early release for various reasons. losing the ability to earn a living. meanwhile panic buying is happening again. would love to be back on a ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare OzKiwiJJ Posted June 26, 2020 Author #1674 Share Posted June 26, 2020 I think if a test returns a positive they (should) stay in quarantine until they have two negative tests. That's what they did in Japan with David and Sally Abel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porky55 Posted June 26, 2020 #1675 Share Posted June 26, 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, LittleFish1976 said: "To fully open the international border without any quarantining or any restrictions probably will require a vaccine to be able to adequately protect vulnerable people in the community," Professor Murphy said. "Until that happens, we're going to have some sort of border measures … and if we don't get a successful vaccine in the relatively near future, then we have to re-evaluate."' But we then could be in danger of this if we don’t learn to live with Covid-19 - (A quote from the past week 🙄) “But you don’t need to be elderly or work in a hospital to be hanging out for a coronavirus vaccine. Without one, Australia could remain a hermit kingdom at the end of the Earth, cut off from the rest of the World.” what a frightening thought ....... 😳 Edited June 26, 2020 by Porky55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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