canadianbear Posted March 28, 2020 #676 Share Posted March 28, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Wehwalt said: This has some interesting coverage of some of the people on Zaandam. https://www.businessinsider.com/elderly-couple-on-coronavirus-stricken-ship-says-theyre-stuck-aboard-2020-3 I feel for that older couple (and all). I can understand their concern of getting off the ship in a box. Certainly hope this has a good outcome but it’s getting much worse. It says they’ve only been allowed out once for fresh air. Perhaps once the other passengers are transferred to the other ship the rest of the passengers still on board will be allowed some outdoor supervised time. Thanks for the link. Edited March 28, 2020 by canadianbear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SedNabokos Posted March 28, 2020 #677 Share Posted March 28, 2020 via The Guardian Live Blog a few minutes ago: Panama’s government has said it will allow the Zaandam cruise ship to pass through the Panama Canal. No one from the ship will be allowed to disembark in Panama, however. It comes after a stalemate, in which Panama’s authorities refused to let the ship pass through the canal, leaving passengers stuck on board. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare rafinmd Posted March 28, 2020 #678 Share Posted March 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, SedNabokos said: via The Guardian Live Blog a few minutes ago: Panama’s government has said it will allow the Zaandam cruise ship to pass through the Panama Canal. No one from the ship will be allowed to disembark in Panama, however. It comes after a stalemate, in which Panama’s authorities refused to let the ship pass through the canal, leaving passengers stuck on board. I hope that's reliable. Roy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cat shepard Posted March 28, 2020 #679 Share Posted March 28, 2020 The Guardian is usually reliable. But I am not familiar with the sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakigemcam Posted March 28, 2020 #680 Share Posted March 28, 2020 My heart breaks for everyone affected by this situation. The fact that the Zaandam has so many cabins without verandahs for fresh air - those pax must be experiencing the worst mental, not to mention physical, distress. I wish there was something we could do for them. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadianbear Posted March 28, 2020 #681 Share Posted March 28, 2020 10 minutes ago, SedNabokos said: via The Guardian Live Blog a few minutes ago: Panama’s government has said it will allow the Zaandam cruise ship to pass through the Panama Canal. No one from the ship will be allowed to disembark in Panama, however. It comes after a stalemate, in which Panama’s authorities refused to let the ship pass through the canal, leaving passengers stuck on board. Oh I hope this happens!! I know our Canadian government was in talks with the authorities as I’m sure other nationals were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Hlitner Posted March 28, 2020 #682 Share Posted March 28, 2020 11 minutes ago, SedNabokos said: via The Guardian Live Blog a few minutes ago: Panama’s government has said it will allow the Zaandam cruise ship to pass through the Panama Canal. No one from the ship will be allowed to disembark in Panama, however. It comes after a stalemate, in which Panama’s authorities refused to let the ship pass through the canal, leaving passengers stuck on board. That would be a good thing. I just looked at the AIS system and both the Zaandam and Rotterdam continue to sit at an anchorage a few miles outside of the canal. It also appears there are some tenders in the water, although we have no clue whether this means there are further movement of people or supplies between the vessels. Hank 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Host Anne Posted March 28, 2020 #683 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Folks ~ please remember we can keeping the discussion here on the Zaandam, not debating if people should have taken cruises, etc. And please, as requested before, make sure your replies are respectful and follow our guidelines. 15 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare rafinmd Posted March 28, 2020 #684 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Does anybody know the status of the 2 ships with regard to fuel? Roy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viajante74 Posted March 28, 2020 #685 Share Posted March 28, 2020 18 minutes ago, rafinmd said: Does anybody know the status of the 2 ships with regard to fuel? Roy The Zaandam was refueled in Valparaiso on the 20th with enough fuel and provisions to last 3 weeks. The Rotterdam was refueled yesterday before the transfer of passengers began. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisingcanadian Posted March 28, 2020 #686 Share Posted March 28, 2020 It is great news that the Zaandam is allowed to sail through the Panama Canal. But what about the Rotterdam with part of the healthy (?) cruisers? Are the Panamian authorities going to allow transfer of both ships? Until now there was no word about it. Oh,the mess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panabiker Posted March 28, 2020 #687 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Sorry if this was discussed earlier in the thread. I saw news reports came out yesterday that 4 passengers died on the ship, but nothing on whether they died on the same day or they only made it public after they had 4 deaths. I can't think of a scenario that 4 people would die roughly at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JazzyV Posted March 28, 2020 #688 Share Posted March 28, 2020 From Reuters: "Panama will guarantee biosecurity measures to protect the personnel who will participate in this maneuver and thus safeguard the health of Panamanians," the government said in a statement. No mention of where the Rotterdam is going. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFD1 Posted March 28, 2020 #689 Share Posted March 28, 2020 The Guardian gives us a ray of hope. Sounds like interested governments may have started a discussion with the Panamanian government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stakeout Posted March 28, 2020 #690 Share Posted March 28, 2020 (edited) this is where the Zaandam and Rotterdam are at anchor off the Panama Canal right now.. 2 Blue Dots lower left got this off my Marine Traffic AIS site our prayers and thoughts are with them --the passengers ..staff and crew .. God Bless 🙂 here's their Main Link https://www.marinetraffic.com Edited March 29, 2020 by Stakeout 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkacruiser Posted March 29, 2020 #691 Share Posted March 29, 2020 For the passage of the Zaandam, this is helpful news. Maybe the the government of the Netherlands helped to make a difference. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SedNabokos Posted March 29, 2020 #692 Share Posted March 29, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, panabiker said: nothing on whether they died on the same day or they only made it public after they had 4 deaths. “Unfortunately, four of our fellow guests have passed away – one last night, two yesterday and one a few days ago,” the ship’s captain Captain Jan Smit said in an announcement, which was obtained by The Guardian. Via this article Edited March 29, 2020 by SedNabokos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dockman Posted March 29, 2020 #693 Share Posted March 29, 2020 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-cruise-zaandam-idUSKBN21F0WG another story confirming panama canal passage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare rafinmd Posted March 29, 2020 #694 Share Posted March 29, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, dockman said: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-cruise-zaandam-idUSKBN21F0WG another story confirming panama canal passage I think I read that entire story and don't see the confirmation. It does like the transfer operation is winding down. The story I see was "edited 5 hours ago". Roy Edited March 29, 2020 by rafinmd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JazzyV Posted March 29, 2020 #695 Share Posted March 29, 2020 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-cruise-zaandam/coronavirus-hit-ship-granted-permission-to-pass-through-panama-canal-idUSKBN21F0WG?il=0 This link was updated an hour ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfcouple Posted March 29, 2020 #696 Share Posted March 29, 2020 7 minutes ago, rafinmd said: I think I read that entire story and don't see the confirmation. It does like the transfer operation is winding down. The story I see was "edited 5 hours ago". Roy WORLD NEWS MARCH 28, 2020 / 12:35 PM / UPDATED AN HOUR AGO Coronavirus-hit ship granted permission to pass through Panama Canal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare rafinmd Posted March 29, 2020 #697 Share Posted March 29, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, JazzyV said: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-cruise-zaandam/coronavirus-hit-ship-granted-permission-to-pass-through-panama-canal-idUSKBN21F0WG?il=0 This link was updated an hour ago. that ending ?il=0 made a a big difference in the results. Without it I still get the old article. Thanks On my current marine traffic screen I don't see any tenders not next to their own ship. I hope that's a good sign. Roy Edited March 29, 2020 by rafinmd tenders 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dockman Posted March 29, 2020 #698 Share Posted March 29, 2020 21 minutes ago, rafinmd said: I think I read that entire story and don't see the confirmation. It does like the transfer operation is winding down. The story I see was "edited 5 hours ago". Roy sorry there is an updated version as below Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cbr663 Posted March 29, 2020 #699 Share Posted March 29, 2020 (edited) The CBC has this article on the Zdam: https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/panama-canal-holland-america-zaandam-1.5513888 There is a pic from Friday showing two passengers in very close proximity, with one wearing a face mask, overlooking their balconies. Examples like these show how difficult it is to quarantine passengers on a cruise ship and how viruses can spread so quickly on a ship. Edited March 29, 2020 by cbr663 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted March 29, 2020 #700 Share Posted March 29, 2020 1 hour ago, SedNabokos said: “Unfortunately, four of our fellow guests have passed away – one last night, two yesterday and one a few days ago,” the ship’s captain Captain Jan Smit said in an announcement, which was obtained by The Guardian. Via this article Jan Smit is a HAL staff captain and former captain. Zaandam's current captain is Ane Jan Smit, no relation 😉 Smit in the Netherlands, like Smith in the States, is a very common last/surname. The Guardian reporter used an incomplete first name 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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