lenquixote66 Posted July 9, 2020 #51 Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 hour ago, scorpluvsdolphins said: 🙂 If we end up on the same cruise, I have trigger red Trump plastic straws. I’ll give you one. What is a Trump straw ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcur Posted July 9, 2020 #52 Share Posted July 9, 2020 (edited) I'll stick with my masks: they are lighweight, comfy, soft, washable, and have double ties so I can lower the mask with the top tie undone, then put back up very easily. If my husband had to wear the shield, he would keep looking around for the welding tank! 😁 Edited July 9, 2020 by pcur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipmaster Posted July 9, 2020 #53 Share Posted July 9, 2020 (edited) On 7/8/2020 at 7:22 AM, boscobeans said: Would you cruise if you had to wear one of these at certain times and in certain places?? I saw this on line and since my wife must wear a mask all day at work and I am out and about a few times a week and wear one as well I did a little research into which is better a mask or a shield ??? Some swear by one and some swear by the other ? But in most situations a shield, to me at least, give a great amount of protection, is easier to sanitize and although a bit like a transparent Darth Vader helmet doesn't affect breathing in the least.. I noticed a new type of face shield on line that looked interesting. It is made to fit on the brim of a baseball cap or sun visor. No band around your head with big letters telling people that it is a FACE SHIELD. On and off in an instant, If you want a drink, just lift it by the brim and place it back on when you had your drink. Easy to sanitize AND ACTUALLY ABOUT THE LEAST EXPENSIVE PPE OUT THERE.. HOWEVER, fitting it on the brim and keeping it adjusted was a problem but adjusting it and then applying a few beads from a hot glue gun and it is very stable, stays where it should even with repeated on and off cycles. It could be something offered by the cruise lines with each booking?? At about $2 a piece (on line price) RCCL could work a deal and make it part of their cruises with one attached to a Royal Caribbean hat or Visor... Just interested in what others think, my only opinion is that this is easy to use, easy to clean and might be a solution that's better than a mask if they become SOP on cruises at certain times... Face shield protects you from direct exposure of droplets but no filter, while better than the nothing crowd, I'll take a mask everytime. yeah breathing is harder ( the reason is it filters the air ). I personally I work out with baseband with N95 replaceable filter, for better or worse, like the mask look too, LOL Edited July 9, 2020 by chipmaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squale2 Posted July 10, 2020 #54 Share Posted July 10, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, chipmaster said: Face shield protects you from direct exposure of droplets but no filter, while better than the nothing crowd, I'll take a mask everytime. yeah breathing is harder ( the reason is it filters the air ). I personally I work out with baseband with N95 replaceable filter, for better or worse, like the mask look too, LOL From what I read the N95 is different than the generic masks that people are wearing and it is a better mask and it does do a better job. But as far as the other masks that are out there they do not filter fine droplets and does not protect you as well as a shield would (according to the expert scientist out there). The generic masks will block your large droplets and stop them from reaching others but it is not a good choice if you want to protect yourself. If you are looking to protect yourself and can't get one of those professional masks - Get a shield ! I am just relaying what the experts have been putting out there for the last few months. I am not an expert. Of course you do know that the N95 does not filter the air you are breathing out so if you are sick - the air you exhale may impact others around you. Edited July 10, 2020 by squale2 more information 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jean87510 Posted July 10, 2020 #55 Share Posted July 10, 2020 17 hours ago, chipmaster said: Face shield protects you from direct exposure of droplets but no filter, while better than the nothing crowd, I'll take a mask everytime. yeah breathing is harder ( the reason is it filters the air ). I personally I work out with baseband with N95 replaceable filter, for better or worse, like the mask look too, LOL As an aside, I am envious that you have the ability to wear a mask at a gym! Still no go for gyms in my neck of the woods in NJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazz Posted July 10, 2020 #56 Share Posted July 10, 2020 On 7/8/2020 at 2:11 PM, BND said: And yet, yesterday I saw a disease expert saying what I posted above. There is room for droplets to get up under the face mask as it sits far off the lower part of the face, mouth and nose. As I said, ever see a Dr or nurse, or dentist ever wearing just a shield? No, they wear both a shield and a mask. I read another article from another “expert” claiming that the droplets just come out the sides of the mask and do not work. As evidence he points to people’s glasses fogging up when wearing a mask. As one posted “The debate goes on.” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deliver42 Posted July 10, 2020 #57 Share Posted July 10, 2020 I wear a mask everyday at work, and I would on a cruise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted July 10, 2020 #58 Share Posted July 10, 2020 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipmaster Posted July 10, 2020 #59 Share Posted July 10, 2020 8 hours ago, Lazz said: I read another article from another “expert” claiming that the droplets just come out the sides of the mask and do not work. As evidence he points to people’s glasses fogging up when wearing a mask. As one posted “The debate goes on.” If you are infected then you are breathing out viral load, who knows is anyones guess If you are around that person you are breathing in a diluted load. The dilution is actually very high if both are wearing a mask because the air flow is restricted and diverted. Many who talk about mask as in-effective point to the people not wearing correctly or not perfect seal, or pulling them down, completely miss the point that for the most important effect they are diluting the viral load sometimes a lot sometimes not so much. There is enough documentation that exposure time and proximity is important and sometimes you have no spreading and others superspreading events that still need to be fully understood, but regardless masks even non perfect seals will DILUTE the Viral load out or in. The debate on how effective is valid, but if they are better than no mask isn't debatable at all! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipmaster Posted July 10, 2020 #60 Share Posted July 10, 2020 8 hours ago, jean87510 said: As an aside, I am envious that you have the ability to wear a mask at a gym! Still no go for gyms in my neck of the woods in NJ. There are actually some really hi-tech lower resistance flow are showing up on the market, I'm tolerating my high resistance mask for now. Okay for lifting, not so much for cardio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkvillain Posted July 10, 2020 #61 Share Posted July 10, 2020 There are actually some really hi-tech lower resistance flow are showing up on the market, I'm tolerating my high resistance mask for now. Okay for lifting, not so much for cardio.I’m leaning towards purchasing the Sparthos mask for when my gym reopens. Do you know of a better one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boscobeans Posted July 10, 2020 Author #62 Share Posted July 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Yorkvillain said: I’m leaning towards purchasing the Sparthos mask for when my gym reopens. Do you know of a better one? Keep in mind this mask does not offer any air filtering - it does not clean air and does nothing to help protect you from anything... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipmaster Posted July 10, 2020 #63 Share Posted July 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Yorkvillain said: I’m leaning towards purchasing the Sparthos mask for when my gym reopens. Do you know of a better one? As the previous poster noted those aren't filtering mask, they are trying to make your lungs work harder by restriction flow. I get that by default with my filtered mask, but it comes with filtration. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loman Posted July 11, 2020 #64 Share Posted July 11, 2020 I'm not cruising until all restrictions are gone . I can wait years if I have to. I like to cruise but not that much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Reid Posted July 12, 2020 #65 Share Posted July 12, 2020 On 7/9/2020 at 1:27 PM, lenquixote66 said: What is a Trump straw ? Lenny, I'm thinking it's like the short straw, the one people draw when determining who will "volunteer" for a dangerous assignment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenquixote66 Posted July 12, 2020 #66 Share Posted July 12, 2020 42 minutes ago, John Reid said: Lenny, I'm thinking it's like the short straw, the one people draw when determining who will "volunteer" for a dangerous assignment. I just googled it and it is a plastic straw for drinking.I never heard of that before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazz Posted July 14, 2020 #67 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Mask facts from the American Association of Physicians and Surgeons. June 2020 article https://aapsonline.org/mask-facts/?fbclid=IwAR3zK78T6eEMPvpQp5Oc19zt1rybxNGDUeUBYfE4ZnUCbbNfXjHAdDI-NZg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnjen Posted July 15, 2020 #68 Share Posted July 15, 2020 On 7/8/2020 at 12:44 PM, BirdTravels said: Hmmmmm.... we just spent the 4th in Atlantic City where there is a 100% mask requirement, no smoking, no eating, no eating, no nothing that would require you to lift your mask. Thousands of people were more than happy to comply with mask and social distancing rules inside and outside on the boardwalk. The only place your could eat or drink indoors was inside your hotel room. WoW! Talk about government taking full control of the sheeple! I won't ever be found in Atlantic City! Have at it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athelstan Posted July 16, 2020 #69 Share Posted July 16, 2020 It's not just the mask. It's a lot of the proposed changes; no this, reduced that, etc. A cruise is supposed to be a relaxing vacation. If I can't do most of the things I enjoy on a cruise, then why go? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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