MaritimeR&R Posted August 11, 2020 #1 Share Posted August 11, 2020 "With the continuation of travel and port restrictions due to global health concerns, Holland America Line is extending its pause of cruise operations and cancelling departures on all ships through Dec. 15, 2020." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackjack24 Posted August 11, 2020 #2 Share Posted August 11, 2020 I hope not but I realistically don't see any cruises leaving from the US before before spring 2021 at the earliest. I was supposed to be on Symphony right now for 2 weeks and had 2 more cruises booked for late November/first of December 2020 so Covid will have cost me 4 cruises if the winter ones don't go.:( 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molly361 Posted August 11, 2020 #3 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Yes they will it's just a matter of when They will probably cancel November next month or maybe even thru mid December 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATC cruiser Posted August 11, 2020 #4 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Depends on your definition of the word soon. Since final payment for December cruises would be sometime in September. My prediction is September 30th. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soremekun Posted August 11, 2020 #5 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Hurry folks! Let's make those final payments! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaritimeR&R Posted August 11, 2020 Author #6 Share Posted August 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, ATC cruiser said: Depends on your definition of the word soon. Since final payment for December cruises would be sometime in September. My prediction is September 30th. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molly361 Posted August 11, 2020 #7 Share Posted August 11, 2020 (edited) They will announce the extension thru December 15th on September 16th or a few days after that Most final payments will be made by then Edited August 11, 2020 by molly361 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwc1027 Posted August 11, 2020 #8 Share Posted August 11, 2020 I'm afraid we can wave good-bye to cruises out of U.S. for 2020 and first half of 2021 is looking suspect so the industry has to be hurting with each new month of delays. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC1957 Posted August 11, 2020 #9 Share Posted August 11, 2020 It's probably just me, but I wouldn't want to wait for them to cancel my cruise. Given my experience with them, they will wait until they have your money so they can offer FCC or make you jump through all kinds of hoops to get a refund. I tend to not let other people use my money for next to nothing unless it is unavoidable. Seems a better approach would be to assume the cruise isn't happening and get my money back. If it does happen, I can always purchase at the last minute. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekathy Posted August 11, 2020 #10 Share Posted August 11, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, TC1957 said: It's probably just me, but I wouldn't want to wait for them to cancel my cruise. Given my experience with them, they will wait until they have your money so they can offer FCC or make you jump through all kinds of hoops to get a refund. I tend to not let other people use my money for next to nothing unless it is unavoidable. Seems a better approach would be to assume the cruise isn't happening and get my money back. If it does happen, I can always purchase at the last minute. Celebrity canceled our March 2020 B2B cruise after our December final payment due date that we paid. Final payment was before all this CV-19 crap. Then Celebrity canceled our September 2020 cruise before our June final payment due date. Took 64 days and no jumping thru hoops to get our 100% refund for the canceled March B2B cruise and 30 days without jumping thru hoops to get 100% of our non refundable deposit back for the canceled September cruise. Edited August 11, 2020 by davekathy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icesk8rReedy Posted August 11, 2020 #11 Share Posted August 11, 2020 I would not count on any sailings the rest of the year. I am doubting my April 2021 cruise happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrednole Posted August 11, 2020 #12 Share Posted August 11, 2020 The answer is YES, the question is how long it will take for them to get that far. I expect Nov to be canceled around Sept 15 and Dec to be canceled around Oct 15. They will not reach to the XMas and NYE cruises until the last minute they can. Those are big money cruises that they are hoping can get going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voyager70 Posted August 11, 2020 #13 Share Posted August 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Icesk8rReedy said: I would not count on any sailings the rest of the year. I am doubting my April 2021 cruise happens. Agree. I'm not even looking or doing mock bookings before Summer 2021. That may even be optimistic, but no one knows at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy planning mom Posted August 11, 2020 #14 Share Posted August 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, Icesk8rReedy said: I would not count on any sailings the rest of the year. I am doubting my April 2021 cruise happens. April is a long way off. Still optimistic for spring/summer 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icesk8rReedy Posted August 11, 2020 #15 Share Posted August 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Crazy planning mom said: April is a long way off. Still optimistic for spring/summer 2021. I'm trying to stay optimistic but it's so hard right now with all we're seeing. There might be sailing by April 2021 but probably on;y a few ports and odds of Galveston being one is slim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mac_tlc Posted August 11, 2020 #16 Share Posted August 11, 2020 23 minutes ago, TC1957 said: It's probably just me, but I wouldn't want to wait for them to cancel my cruise. Given my experience with them, they will wait until they have your money so they can offer FCC or make you jump through all kinds of hoops to get a refund. I tend to not let other people use my money for next to nothing unless it is unavoidable. Seems a better approach would be to assume the cruise isn't happening and get my money back. If it does happen, I can always purchase at the last minute. The only "hoop" I have experienced is time. And, if the FCC holds its value, there is a 25% return on your money. I have a couple and will wait till closer to years end to decide whether to convert them to $$ or not. If you have a non-refundable deposit, making final payment and waiting for them to cancel is the only way to get your money back -- unless you were lucky enough to have them cancel before final payment which has only happened a few times. . mac_tlc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeMissSeaView Posted August 11, 2020 #17 Share Posted August 11, 2020 I recently cancelled my B2B at the end on November and beginning of December. Even if they did sail, I want to wait to see what happens. My next cruise is in February, and I am not sure if Royal will start sailing by then. I fell lucky that I at least did six Royal cruises in 2020. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONECRUISER Posted August 11, 2020 #18 Share Posted August 11, 2020 52 minutes ago, TC1957 said: It's probably just me, but I wouldn't want to wait for them to cancel my cruise. Given my experience with them, they will wait until they have your money so they can offer FCC or make you jump through all kinds of hoops to get a refund. I tend to not let other people use my money for next to nothing unless it is unavoidable. Seems a better approach would be to assume the cruise isn't happening and get my money back. If it does happen, I can always purchase at the last minute. Just had them cancel 2 Cruises in July and recieved refund in 3 weeks. I canceled another myself, took one extra day for a FCC. Canceled another week earlier and took 15 days for my FCC. And these were online cancelations, didnt even call them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyIL Posted August 11, 2020 #19 Share Posted August 11, 2020 17 minutes ago, ONECRUISER said: Just had them cancel 2 Cruises in July and recieved refund in 3 weeks. I canceled another myself, took one extra day for a FCC. Canceled another week earlier and took 15 days for my FCC. And these were online cancelations, didnt even call them I am still waiting for the last $84.46 from our May Transatlantic cruise that was cancelled March 24th. The first partial refund to our credit card wasn't until June 10th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC1957 Posted August 11, 2020 #20 Share Posted August 11, 2020 (edited) See several people bragging about getting a refund in anywhere from 15 to 64 days. We booked a land vacation costing more than our last two cruises combined (7 day and 9 day cruises...including air and hotel before and after). It was paid in full when the hotel in the package closed due to COVID-19 (which cancelled the entire trip). Got the email notice of cancellation in the morning...TA requested a refund that afternoon (we DID NOT pay the TA and let them pay the company)...credit hit our card the next morning. FYI...a 3 week delay sucks. Edited August 11, 2020 by TC1957 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandebeach Posted August 11, 2020 #21 Share Posted August 11, 2020 P&O has cancelled through November 12 and also a World Cruise for January-March 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashland Posted August 11, 2020 #22 Share Posted August 11, 2020 3 hours ago, jwc1027 said: I'm afraid we can wave good-bye to cruises out of U.S. for 2020 and first half of 2021 is looking suspect so the industry has to be hurting with each new month of delays. I've done a L/S for my March & May 2021 RCI cruises...still hoping for my July 30, 2021 X cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandebeach Posted August 12, 2020 #23 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Viking Cruise Lines just announced cancellation of all cruises through December 31. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BND Posted August 13, 2020 #24 Share Posted August 13, 2020 I think so and it's one reason we cancelled our Nov b2b on Harmony. I'd rather not make final payment and then have to wait for refund. But that said, we have 7 cruises booked between May 2021 and April 2022 now. Hope springs eternal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webgal318 Posted August 13, 2020 #25 Share Posted August 13, 2020 On 8/11/2020 at 3:25 PM, bigrednole said: The answer is YES, the question is how long it will take for them to get that far. I expect Nov to be canceled around Sept 15 and Dec to be canceled around Oct 15. They will not reach to the XMas and NYE cruises until the last minute they can. Those are big money cruises that they are hoping can get going. Hearing the word YES perked me up. WHEN is the big question. I have had five cruises cancelled (March, May, June, August, October) and I have a cruise booked for NYE. Here's the hard facts for us: My husband is going to be 80 next January and has had multiple extra chances at life since last November due to heart issues. I am trying to stay optimistic but I may face the reality that we will never cruise again. It could happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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