Stumblefoot Posted November 20, 2020 #1 Share Posted November 20, 2020 While the itinerary schedule extension typically occurs in late September, the delay to Tue., Dec 1 will see ship voyages extended through:Classic Fleet Dawn - Mar 23, 2023 Moon - Mar 16, 2023 Muse - Apr 26, 2023 Shadow - Dec 21, 2022 Spirit - Mar 24, 2023 Whisper - May 5, 2023 Expedition Fleet Cloud - Feb 25, 2023 Explorer - Mar 4, 2023 Origin - Apr 1, 2023 Wind - Feb 28, 2023 Highlights according to a variety of Silversea personnel include: Dawn After spending the spring, summer, and early fall of '22 in the Med, she'll finish off the season with two voyages in the Canary Islands and Cape Verde, including a stop where the Gambia River meets the Atlantic Ocean. The turnaround port will be Dakar in Senegal. The winter of '23 will be spent in the Caribbean. Moon The anointed ship for three grand voyages (Mediterranean, Norther Europe, and South America), she'll spend the summer of '22 plying the Baltic Sea and North Sea before heading southwest to transit the Panama Canal thrice before circumnavigating the South American continent during the winter of '23. Muse Joining the Shadow for the Alaska summer of '22 sailing season, she'll spend the fall in Japan before sailing along the China coast and throughout Asia onto her winter grounds of '23 of Australia and New Zealand, before returning to Japan in the spring. Shadow Will tail the Muse through a similar program and end the '22 schedule with a Christmas voyage between Bali and Sydney. Spirit Voyages return to the Black Sea and Eastern Mediterranean with some stopping near Jerusalem and Nazareth during the spring, summer, and fall of '22. The winter of '23 will find her plying the typical Asian route between Hong Kong and Singapore before heading through the Bay of Bengal and Arabian Sea on her way back to Athens in the spring. Whisper After spending late spring and summer of '22 in Northern Europe, the British Isles, and Iceland, she'll spend the fall in northeastern Canada and the U.S. before heading south to Chile to begin the late fall crossing to the South Pacific in order to spend the early to mid winter of '23 in Australia and New Zealand. The spring of '23 will be spent in Japan. Cloud Typical Arctic and Antarctic schedule Explorer The temptations of Explorer are vast. Spring of '22 looks incredible as Explorer will start her program in Cape Town and cruise along the eastern coast of Africa to Zanzibar, Tanzania. From there, she will spend a week and half cruising amongst the Seychelles islands to Mahé before spending nearly half of May exploring the islands of Sri Lanka, the Mergui Archipelago of Myanmar, and North Sumatra’s Gunung Leuser National Park before ending in Singapore. Summer of '22 will be spent exploring the Northern Territory and Kimberley region of Australia with exploration of the South Pacific in the fall of '22 before heading further across the Pacific to South America in order to begin the Antarctica Bridge season at King George Island. A big highlight of the Antarctic season will be the voyage immediately after the conclusion of the Antarctica Bridge season; two weeks in Antarctica including seven full days in the deep south. This would include the McMurdo Station area which is more than 12 degrees further south than most Antarctic voyages travel such as Petermann Island, Pleneau Island, or the Lemaire Channel. Origin Traditional Galápagos program. Wind Quite an aggressive program, the Wind will be in South America at the beginning of spring '22, with a voyage from Fortaleza, Brazil to Bridgetown, Bardbados that will sail up and down the Amazon river, before heading up the eastern coasts of the U.S. and Canada to traverse the North Atlantic to England. The summer of '22 will find her in the Arctic and Greenland before transiting the Northwest Passage between Kangerlussuaq and Nome. Early to mid-fall of '22 will find her along the western coast of the U.S. and Mexico before heading south to spend late fall and winter plying the Drake Passage back-n-forth to Antarctica. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SummmerInKefalonia Posted November 20, 2020 #2 Share Posted November 20, 2020 (edited) Did anyone manage to get the brochure? They mentioned November 24th as a possible date to release it but maybe someone has received it earlier. Edited November 20, 2020 by SummmerInKefalonia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtlemichael Posted November 21, 2020 #3 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Very interesting and I'm looking forward to the detail. As someone interested in the World Cruise 2023 I'm trying to work out how that fits in. At the webinar yesterday, discussed in another thread, it was said WC2023 would be announced in January. A few months ago many of us were asked for our views on options which included the possibility of WC2023 starting in Sydney rather than Fort Lauderdale. Applying my very unrenowned detective skills could it be that WC2023 will be on Shadow and embark from Sydney? That would set the cat amongst the pigeons. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stumblefoot Posted November 21, 2020 Author #4 Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 hour ago, turtlemichael said: Applying my very unrenowned detective skills could it be that WC2023 will be on Shadow and embark from Sydney? Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding... I think we have a winner! I have no doubt you are right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise Wonderland Posted November 21, 2020 #5 Share Posted November 21, 2020 6 hours ago, turtlemichael said: Applying my very unrenowned detective skills could it be that WC2023 will be on Shadow and embark from Sydney? That would set the cat amongst the pigeons. Since other classic ships already have itineraries for spring 2023, Shadow is the only remaining ship that can be used for world cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise Wonderland Posted November 21, 2020 #6 Share Posted November 21, 2020 6 hours ago, SummmerInKefalonia said: Did anyone manage to get the brochure? They mentioned November 24th as a possible date to release it but maybe someone has received it earlier. Yes, it is a calendar which shows the ports for each itinerary, but without price or detailed port time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SummmerInKefalonia Posted November 21, 2020 #7 Share Posted November 21, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Cruise Wonderland said: Yes, it is a calendar which shows the ports for each itinerary, but without price or detailed port time. Perfect! Can you upload the file or screenshots of the calendar please? Edited November 21, 2020 by SummmerInKefalonia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise Wonderland Posted November 21, 2020 #8 Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 hour ago, SummmerInKefalonia said: Perfect! Can you upload the file or screenshots of the calendar please? I will send to you in private message. 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brimary Posted November 21, 2020 #9 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Stumblefoot. ..Many Thanks for the detailed update for 2022 cruising plans for the fleet which at this point in time seems a reasonable but by no means certain time for resumption if all goes well with ridding the World of the awful Pandemic. Do not understand why Silversea would in the SUMMER of 2022 have four of the largest ships in the fleet,Muse Moon Whisper and Shadow spending the whole summer in the cold climates of Alaska and Northern Europe and the Baltic.Maybe the new owners RC want their SMALL ships doing the cold itineraries and the 5000+ passenger ships doing the Warmer areas of the World. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SummmerInKefalonia Posted November 21, 2020 #10 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Compared to the 2021 deployment, this deployment seems very week especially for Europe. But then I remembered that a new ship is coming in the first quarter of 2022 (although the delivery date could have been delayed due to the pandemic) and they could use it in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsteinvik Posted November 22, 2020 #11 Share Posted November 22, 2020 (edited) On 11/21/2020 at 10:32 AM, Cruise Wonderland said: I will send to you in private message. 🙂 Can you send me the calendar too? Would be very interested. Thanks 🙂 Edited November 22, 2020 by Ulsteinvik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare WesW Posted November 22, 2020 #12 Share Posted November 22, 2020 (edited) here you go https://cdn.cruiseinsider.com/hubfs/silversea-brochures/silversea-2022-23-itineraries_CI.pdf Edited November 22, 2020 by WesW 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silkismom Posted November 22, 2020 #13 Share Posted November 22, 2020 I guess we have to ASSUME that cruises before the listing, are still the same ie Silver Muse Yokohama-Yokohama Mar 25, 2022. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stumblefoot Posted November 22, 2020 Author #14 Share Posted November 22, 2020 57 minutes ago, silkismom said: I guess we have to ASSUME that cruises before the listing, are still the same... Correct. The info in this forum topic is only for the upcoming schedule extension and release of official pricing on Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marylebone37 Posted November 23, 2020 #15 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Looks like there is not going to be a Northwest Passage itinerary on the Cloud in 2022? I’ve got it booked in Aug/Sept 2021, but not sure it will be clear if it will sail by the time final payment is due in April. Was hoping to move it to 2022, but appears that will not be possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer Posted November 23, 2020 #16 Share Posted November 23, 2020 It looks as if the Grand Cruise South America in 2023 will have Moon in Rio for three nights during Carnival. Neat! 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stumblefoot Posted November 23, 2020 Author #17 Share Posted November 23, 2020 3 hours ago, stines said: Looks like there is not going to be a Northwest Passage itinerary on the Cloud in 2022? As noted in my summary above, it’s going to be on the Wind in ‘22. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marylebone37 Posted November 23, 2020 #18 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Thank you, stumblefoot. So sorry about that. Was focusing more on the SS glossy when I should have paid more attention to your excellent summary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stumblefoot Posted November 23, 2020 Author #19 Share Posted November 23, 2020 6 hours ago, stines said: Thank you, stumblefoot. So sorry about that. Was focusing more on the SS glossy when I should have paid more attention to your excellent summary. No problem, stines. Enjoy planning your trip! Should be fantastic whenever you choose to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCCruiser57 Posted November 24, 2020 #20 Share Posted November 24, 2020 (edited) On 11/20/2020 at 7:25 PM, turtlemichael said: Very interesting and I'm looking forward to the detail. As someone interested in the World Cruise 2023 I'm trying to work out how that fits in. At the webinar yesterday, discussed in another thread, it was said WC2023 would be announced in January. A few months ago many of us were asked for our views on options which included the possibility of WC2023 starting in Sydney rather than Fort Lauderdale. Applying my very unrenowned detective skills could it be that WC2023 will be on Shadow and embark from Sydney? That would set the cat amongst the pigeons. TM - we got the brochure from SS today. In looking at them, it is obvious that WC 2023 will be on the Shadow instead of the Whisper. The Whisper Jan-March 2023 cruises as do not appear to be WC segments. All the other ships have 2023 itineraries and none of these appear to be WC segments On the other hand, the last cruise listed for the Shadow is 18 days leaving Dec 21st from Bali to Sydney. The Shadow has no cruises listed for Jan 2023 and beyond which tells me it will be the WC 2023 ship. Good detective work early on TM. We are excited about leaving from Sydney and spending some pre cruise time there. We will be interested in the itinerary and the pricing. Edited November 24, 2020 by DCCruiser57 added content 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtlemichael Posted December 1, 2020 #21 Share Posted December 1, 2020 The new itineraries, foreshadowed by Stumblefoot in the first post here, are now on the website. Love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stumblefoot Posted December 1, 2020 Author #22 Share Posted December 1, 2020 8 hours ago, turtlemichael said: The new itineraries, foreshadowed by Stumblefoot in the first post here, are now on the website. Love it. And, in general, pricing is very rich compared with itinerary releases of the past. For an over the top example, check out the pricing on the 20-Day "Deep South" Antarctic voyage on the Explorer in February 2023. $65,000 for a Vista suite and $92,000 for a Veranda suite per couple. 😲😲😲 Also, if you thought Silversea was proud of the Silver Origin when they released initial pricing for the winter of 2021, they are really proud of her now looking at the winter of 2023 pricing. 7-days in the least expensive Veranda runs around $22,000 per couple. 😥 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tothesunset Posted December 1, 2020 #23 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Yes, I thought the prices of all the new itineraries were a good 20% higher than I might have expected. I know that SS are probably suffering more than they admit but I, for one, won't be rushing into any bookings. Certainly not when the future is still so uncertain. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtlemichael Posted December 1, 2020 #24 Share Posted December 1, 2020 The trip I'm interested in is the b2b2b on Muse at the beginning of next November Singapore-Hong Kong-Singapore-Sydney. The first two legs were put into the Silversea program yesterday too apparently signaling the cancelation of the refit at that time. This is discussed in another thread. Prices for that trip are very reasonable because tours are not included. It comes before the changes that seem to have made prices leap in the bulk of cruises added yesterday. The reality of course is that if we want to do a tour, which we will, or just leave the ship, we may have to do a Silversea tour for covid19 safety reasons. The dilemmas are - is it too soon? Will Singapore and the other ports be open to us? What will the covid19 protocols on the ship be at that point in time? At that point will Australia allow us to dock without quarantining? We are going to take the view that to we'll be prepared to book with the minimal deposit now required though we will not be prepared to put real money on the table until we are sure of the answers to our dilemmas above. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alithecat Posted December 2, 2020 #25 Share Posted December 2, 2020 We booked a January 2023 Antarctica cruise this morning. We want to go to South Georgia and there is nothing we want in 2021/2022 -- only the first cruise of the season in November, and a very expensive holiday cruise. We don't want to take the risk of paying everything up-front and were very disappointed to find out that the "minimal deposit" now is 25% of the full price. Still quite a bit of real money to risk. I thought Silversea had lowered their deposits but it looks like they raised them back up for 2022/2023. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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