New Covid-19 Cruise Ship Rules

[Stevanb]

We have been to Playa del Carmen and Punta Cana last year no problems and felt safer than in S Fla

 

Also they are going to make you get a covid test getting on what about getting off as you went out of the country

[ymncruise]

Will not cruise if these rules are in place. Vacation destinations will be to places without restrictive rules. 
 

 

[Ellaleah]

14 hours ago, mek said:

15 hours ago, molly361 said:

I don't understand how anyone can think that if vaccinations are required to cruise that there can be any exceptions whether it be crew , children or adults.  It boggles my mind

Well, exactly.  I don't think there will be any exceptions when cruising starts back up and if that excludes children, people who for medical reasons can get a vaccine, or those who won't get the vaccine from causing for a while then that's the way it will have to be.

DITTO!

[mek]

14 hours ago, Keksie said:

Road trips here in Florida sound more and more attractive every day.  

I've always wanted to go up to the Grand Hotel in Michigan for a few days but could never work it into my cruising schedule.  I think I'm going to look into that.

[Iamcruzin]

On 2/5/2021 at 8:03 AM, MaritimeR&R said:

Carnival has now added the following to its reservation page.  Currently, there is no vaccine requirement, but it does mention the possibility of having to make reservations for the pool, casino, etc. It will be interesting to see if Royal and Norwegian follow suit.

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While I certainly understand why they are doing this and I agree that it should be done, this is just another reason for me to stay on land.  I remember the days of early cruising before anytime dining and the large buffets. One of the downfalls of cruising that many didn't like was planning the day around your set time meals.  I remember on sea days having to change from a bathing suit to casual clothing just to go to the MDR for lunch and then having to change back into the bathing suit. I also remember having to tip the matra de to be moved from early set seating to late set seating just so we didn't have to rush back from port for dinner or have to wake up at the crack of dawn for breakfast. 

 

There is no way I'm making appointments for the pool, casino, bar or any other activity that I would normally just be able to participate in on the spur of the moment.  The more I follow CC the more I realize that it will be a prison ship until things are back to normal.

[MaritimeR&R]

I do the majority of my cruising from fall through winter and thoroughly enjoy escaping the Northeast winters.  I am a solo traveler and am among those who rarely get off the ship unless they need to make a purchase and look forward to the mass exodus when the ship visits a port. Double points offer little appeal as I have already reached Pinnacle and do not covet points for the sake of getting a free cruise or bragging rights in the SL or CL. What I do enjoy is the overall ambiance of the ship, the freedom from living by a schedule which I did prior to retiring over a decade ago and the opportunity to meet up with people who, like me, have a bit of wanderlust.  At this point, all of my cruises have been moved to 2022 save one--my annual cruise with my little granddaughter in August. Though I would hate to miss two years in a row, I am hoping that RC cancels my 7 ni. Bahamas out of Bayonne for this August, I am not looking forward to dealing with all of the restrictions and as I am already vaccinated, she will not be and that concerns me. 

[SherriZ366]

On 2/3/2021 at 12:54 PM, SilkySal said:

Yes, like Johnson & Johnson!

And Astra Zeneca is showing good results.  Johnson and Johnson applied for the FDA Emergency Review a day or so ago.  

 

[Sunshine3601]

On 2/5/2021 at 7:31 AM, mek said:

Well, exactly.  I don't think there will be any exceptions when cruising starts back up and if that excludes children, people who for medical reasons can get a vaccine, or those who won't get the vaccine from causing for a while then that's the way it will have to be.

 

I recall reading that msc is not allowing anyone to board that requires a medical exception from wearing a mask.  I have heard that some US airlines were doing the same.  

I agree with that decision.  I personally dont want to be around someone who goes around maskless all the time and I'm sure lots of fellow. Cruisers wouldnt be happy with that either.

[Sunshine3601]

On 2/3/2021 at 1:11 PM, Stevanb said:

How are the cruise lines to administer covid tests on the ships to get passengers back into the US ports. 

Setting up testing labs on the ship or Cruise terminal has been done in Europe and Singapore, not a problem.

[Ocean Boy]

10 minutes ago, Sunshine3601 said:

I recall reading that msc is not allowing anyone to board that requires a medical exception from wearing a mask.  I have heard that some US airlines were doing the same.  

I agree with that decision.  I personally dont want to be around someone who goes around maskless all the time and I'm sure lots of fellow. Cruisers wouldnt be happy with that either.

If everyone aboard is vaccinated, and maybe or maybe not, in conjuction with a negative test I would have no issue with no one wearing masks.

[mek]

1 hour ago, Ocean Boy said:

If everyone aboard is vaccinated, and maybe or maybe not, in conjuction with a negative test I would have no issue with no one wearing masks.

I don't think I would either, but I also believe it's going to take a long time form some people to feel comfortable around those who don't wear them.

[hallux]

1 hour ago, Ocean Boy said:

If everyone aboard is vaccinated, and maybe or maybe not, in conjuction with a negative test I would have no issue with no one wearing masks.

Except some of the vaccines have not yet been proven to prevent vaccinated individuals from carrying the virus and passing it to others.  Also, consider what happens in port stops - those same vaccinated maskless people mingle (potentially) with unvaccinated people with an unknown history and then return to the ship.  Remember - the vaccine generally doesn't prevent you from getting the virus, it just reduces the impact.  You will also be subject to testing upon return and could then be subjected to a quarantine from a positive test.

[Tippyton]

22 minutes ago, mek said:

I don't think I would either, but I also believe it's going to take a long time form some people to feel comfortable around those who don't wear them.

It's called grooming...

[L454S]

6 hours ago, Sunshine3601 said:

I recall reading that msc is not allowing anyone to board that requires a medical exception from wearing a mask.  I have heard that some US airlines were doing the same.  

I agree with that decision.  I personally dont want to be around someone who goes around maskless all the time and I'm sure lots of fellow. Cruisers wouldnt be happy with that either.

 

Maybe YOU should stay home and let the rest enjoy a sailing .......or 2

[ace2542]

10 hours ago, SherriZ366 said:

And Astra Zeneca is showing good results

That will never be approved for use in USA. You don't like it because it is english and the irish border and all that jazz. That is my feeling anyway. And if you don't allow Astra vaccinated persons into the country that could cause a lot of problems both for cruising and the world in general. Though I don't think you would go that far.

[coffeebean]

On 1/25/2021 at 6:51 AM, molly361 said:

And it will put off families with young children that won't be able to cruise since there's no vaccine for them yet

I surely hope children will have to wait to board cruise ships until there is an approved vaccine for them. Children are very efficient spreaders of Covid. Here is an article......

 

Children are key spreaders

[coffeebean]

On 1/25/2021 at 9:17 AM, smokeybandit said:

 

You'll never get 100% vaccination rate for  multitude of legit reasons.

Please list a few of those "legit reasons". Thanks.

[coffeebean]

On 1/25/2021 at 9:24 AM, d9704011 said:

Agreed.  I guess those folks won’t be on a cruise ship anytime soon if the noble goal is to have a 100% vaccinated crew and pax ship leave the dock.

My POV is just the opposite. Vaccinated cruise ship passengers will be clamoring to board a 100% vaccinated ship. How else can anyone feel as safe as safe is possible unless they are among all people who are vaccinated? 

 

I'll cruise to nowhere if that is what is in our future to get these ships in service again. I always cruised for the ship experience in recent years anyway. As for the ports? Been there done that. Just get me on the ship and I'll be content to stay on the ship.

 

 

[d9704011]

2 minutes ago, coffeebean said:

My POV is just the opposite. Vaccinated cruise ship passengers will be clamoring to board a 100% vaccinated ship. How else can anyone feel as safe as safe is possible unless they are among all people who are vaccinated? 

 

I'll cruise to nowhere if that is what is in our future to get these ships in service again. I always cruised for the ship experience in recent years anyway. As for the ports? Been there done that. Just get me on the ship and I'll be content to stay on the ship.

 

 

Evidently, you didn’t understand my post.  ‘Those folks’ are unvaccinated people (in response to smokeybandits earlier assertion that there are people with ‘legit reasons’ for not being vaccinated, which you have recently commented on yourself).  All I said was that they wouldn’t be cruising if the rule is 100% vaccinated crew and pax.

[coffeebean]

On 1/25/2021 at 9:31 AM, Ourusualbeach said:

You may not get 100% in the population at large but when the cruise line sets the standards to board they can absolutely insist on everyone being  vaccinated.

One cruise line has already done that so why not all mass market lines? Agree, 100% of the population will not be vaccinated, whether is be their own choosing or a medical issue that prevents them from being vaccinated. Those are the folks who will not have the ability to board a cruise ship.

[coffeebean]

On 1/25/2021 at 10:22 AM, smokeybandit said:

I'm fine with a covid vaccine mandate just as long as they make all other modern vaccines mandatory, too.

Now that is just an obtuse stance. Currently, no other disease has caused a global pandemic as Covid has. You sound like a petulant child.

[lizzius]

47 minutes ago, coffeebean said:

Now that is just an obtuse stance. Currently, no other disease has caused a global pandemic as Covid has. You sound like a petulant child.

What? Plenty of vaccines exist for diseases that used to inspire fear in the heart of mothers everywhere... They largely weren't new, or novel diseases, but the obtuse thing is thinking that a pathogen being endemic (and by definition not pandemic) somehow makes it less dangerous. Arguably, enforcing vaccines for endemic diseases that are well tested, widely available, and for the most part well tolerated is a much more straightforward argument ethically and your insistince otherwise is the reply that reeks of petulance.

[Lazz]

On 2/5/2021 at 10:32 PM, mek said:

I've always wanted to go up to the Grand Hotel in Michigan for a few days but could never work it into my cruising schedule.  I think I'm going to look into that.

We stayed 3 nights in the Grand Hotel and loved it!  We rode a tandem bike around the island one day and drove (for lack of a better word) a horse and buggy around the second day.  When we went 8 years ago jackets were required for men at dinner.

[Sunshine3601]

6 hours ago, L454S said:

 

Maybe YOU should stay home and let the rest enjoy a sailing .......or 2

Excuse me but why should I stay home if I agree to follow all protocols for cruising such as wearing a Mask?

[Iamcruzin]

13 hours ago, Sunshine3601 said:

I recall reading that msc is not allowing anyone to board that requires a medical exception from wearing a mask.  I have heard that some US airlines were doing the same.  

I agree with that decision.  I personally dont want to be around someone who goes around maskless all the time and I'm sure lots of fellow. Cruisers wouldnt be happy with that either.

I wish I had a dime for every time during this pandemic someone played the medical exemption card for not wearing a mask when they came into the store. I told them we weren't excepting that excuse and if they shop fast enough it wouldn't matter. This B. S. excuse is right up there with emotional support animals. Yes,  there are people who are legit in both cases but they aren't the ones taking advantage of the situation.