carolyn22 Posted May 11, 2021 #226 Share Posted May 11, 2021 22 minutes ago, ChutChut said: HIPAA could apply to cruise companies (Carnival, etc. employs people in the states) IF they have a self-insured health plan or if they act as an intermediary b/t the employee and the health provider, etc. Also, you're comparing apples and oranges in terms of required vaccines for other countries. When entering another country, one must abide by its health rules, etc. That has no bearing on whether our states, etc. will allow companies that operate within its borders to mandate vaccine certs. So what happens if other countries where the ship is going to port requires passengers to have the Covid vaccine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChutChut Posted May 11, 2021 #227 Share Posted May 11, 2021 12 minutes ago, carolyn22 said: So what happens if other countries where the ship is going to port requires passengers to have the Covid vaccine? Great question. Thought of that myself. Don't have a clue how that will be handled. Different countries have different Covid requirements right now (negative PCR test within 72 of entering country with or without vaccine, etc.) it would be hard to "navigate." Will have to wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ontheweb Posted May 11, 2021 #228 Share Posted May 11, 2021 4 hours ago, rjrice1 said: Wondering this could be a HIPPA violation to ask for "medical " information they do not ask if you had any other immunization or other illness That is a total misunderstanding of HIPAA. It is a violation to release your medical information to anyone without your consent. It is not a violation either to ask for your information or for you to release it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carolyn22 Posted May 11, 2021 #229 Share Posted May 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, ChutChut said: Great question. Thought of that myself. Don't have a clue how that will be handled. Different countries have different Covid requirements right now (negative PCR test within 72 of entering country with or without vaccine, etc.) it would be hard to "navigate." Will have to wait and see. It will definitely be interesting to see how of this all shakes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkinmr Posted May 11, 2021 #230 Share Posted May 11, 2021 3 hours ago, carolyn22 said: So what happens if other countries where the ship is going to port requires passengers to have the Covid vaccine? If a country requires a vaccination, the cruise line will have to require all passengers to be vaccinated or not sail to that port. When a country has a restriction of that type, a ship cannot anchor, dock or disembark any passengers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keys2Heaven Posted May 11, 2021 #231 Share Posted May 11, 2021 3 hours ago, ontheweb said: That is a total misunderstanding of HIPAA. It is a violation to release your medical information to anyone without your consent. It is not a violation either to ask for your information or for you to release it. Agreed. And how is asking about a vaccination any different that the previous health questionnaire where they wanted to know if someone was pregnant or if you had been ill within the previous 72 hours prior to sailing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinbadssailors Posted May 11, 2021 #232 Share Posted May 11, 2021 8 minutes ago, Keys2Heaven said: Agreed. And how is asking about a vaccination any different that the previous health questionnaire where they wanted to know if someone was pregnant or if you had been ill within the previous 72 hours prior to sailing. Is it okay for them to just ask if I'm vaccinated, and accept my answer? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisingguy007 Posted May 11, 2021 #233 Share Posted May 11, 2021 24 minutes ago, Sinbadssailors said: Is it okay for them to just ask if I'm vaccinated, and accept my answer? Sure. They may also require proof like schools and others places do, ie a yellow card, white card, or printout of your vaccine record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinbadssailors Posted May 11, 2021 #234 Share Posted May 11, 2021 2 hours ago, cruisingguy007 said: Sure. They may also require proof like schools and others places do, ie a yellow card, white card, or printout of your vaccine record. As an adult, how many times have you produced your shot records? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisingguy007 Posted May 11, 2021 #235 Share Posted May 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, Sinbadssailors said: As an adult, how many times have you produced your shot records? Not many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamaone Posted May 11, 2021 #236 Share Posted May 11, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sinbadssailors said: I agree, but that poster? That's what the CDC wants us to believe and stay fearful, but still get the shot Well, after todays news that the CDC was misleading the public about outdoor exposure, it’s just a matter of time before this citizens of this country ends this mess whether the CDC likes it or not. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9567159/Experts-warn-CDC-estimate-10-COVID-19-cases-occur-outdoors-exaggeration.html Edited May 11, 2021 by bamaone 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James4me Posted May 12, 2021 #237 Share Posted May 12, 2021 You can always be tested before you board. It takes minutes to get results. I’m not vaccinated nor will I and my husband be vaccinated. Test us before we get on the ship. I don’t have a problem with that. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNJCruisers Posted May 12, 2021 #238 Share Posted May 12, 2021 4 hours ago, James4me said: You can always be tested before you board. It takes minutes to get results. I’m not vaccinated nor will I and my husband be vaccinated. Test us before we get on the ship. I don’t have a problem with that. And if the majority of ships in the fleet go the 95% route, you'll be battling for one of those precious unvaccinated 5% slots with all of the under 11 crowd. Better hope that some of the ships go the test route so that you'll be guaranteed a spot. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaydubya Posted May 12, 2021 #239 Share Posted May 12, 2021 Once Caribbean cruising resumes, I wonder what will happen if ports of call in Caribbean nations, who have in place requirements for vaccinations and health visas for travelers, require cruise ships to certify that all passengers meet that country's requirements before docking or disembarking passengers for the day? Carnival might lie about dumping trash and hazardous chemicals in the ocean, but I don't think they would risk being expelled from countries for falsifying entry requirements if there are non-vaxed pax onboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChutChut Posted May 12, 2021 #240 Share Posted May 12, 2021 1 hour ago, jaydubya said: Once Caribbean cruising resumes, I wonder what will happen if ports of call in Caribbean nations, who have in place requirements for vaccinations and health visas for travelers, require cruise ships to certify that all passengers meet that country's requirements before docking or disembarking passengers for the day? Carnival might lie about dumping trash and hazardous chemicals in the ocean, but I don't think they would risk being expelled from countries for falsifying entry requirements if there are non-vaxed pax onboard. This is the $64,000 question as different countries currently have difference requirements (some require vaccination and a negative test within two days of entering, etc.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChutChut Posted May 12, 2021 #241 Share Posted May 12, 2021 22 hours ago, Sinbadssailors said: As an adult, how many times have you produced your shot records? Never. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stellarose Posted May 12, 2021 #242 Share Posted May 12, 2021 when I switched doctors they asked for my shot records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMOSEA Posted May 12, 2021 #243 Share Posted May 12, 2021 (edited) I'll cancel our upcoming cruise if covid vaccines will not be required. I just wish they'd tell us already, instead of leaving us in limbo, so we can get on with making our vacation plans. Edited May 12, 2021 by EMOSEA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minerva78 Posted May 13, 2021 #244 Share Posted May 13, 2021 I'm pretty sure I would not cruise unless guests are required to be vaccinated, which is why I am anxiously awaiting to find out what rules Carnival is going to have in place. I don't mind wearing masks around here, but if the ship is fully vaccinated I'd want them to not require masks. I'm so desperate to cruise though, I think I'd tolerate being masked. Trying to decide if I would be comfortable enough to try to sail in July or wait until November or December. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly333 Posted May 13, 2021 #245 Share Posted May 13, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, minerva78 said: I'm pretty sure I would not cruise unless guests are required to be vaccinated, which is why I am anxiously awaiting to find out what rules Carnival is going to have in place. I don't mind wearing masks around here, but if the ship is fully vaccinated I'd want them to not require masks. I'm so desperate to cruise though, I think I'd tolerate being masked. Trying to decide if I would be comfortable enough to try to sail in July or wait until November or December. If I wasnt already booked I wouldnt book at these prices. Out of Galveston prices start over 1900 for 7 days in july, and for my date in sept solo, to book a inside now, deck 1 or 2, 1500.xx To me that's high lol. And we still arent sure these are a go. Edited May 13, 2021 by firefly333 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minerva78 Posted May 13, 2021 #246 Share Posted May 13, 2021 2 hours ago, firefly333 said: If I wasnt already booked I wouldnt book at these prices. Out of Galveston prices start over 1900 for 7 days in july, and for my date in sept solo, to book a inside now, deck 1 or 2, 1500.xx To me that's high lol. And we still arent sure these are a go. I agree with the prices being high. I just assumed it was because it was summer! 1st and 2nd guest prices seemed pretty high but the 3rd and 4th guest prices for our kids were pretty good. Either way it's still a lot. I could go on the Mardi Gras (hopefully) out of Port Canaveral the week after Thanksgiving for $1000 cheaper. But if I go on a Christmas cruise it's the same prices as July. So many decisions, lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly333 Posted May 13, 2021 #247 Share Posted May 13, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, minerva78 said: I agree with the prices being high. I just assumed it was because it was summer! 1st and 2nd guest prices seemed pretty high but the 3rd and 4th guest prices for our kids were pretty good. Either way it's still a lot. I could go on the Mardi Gras (hopefully) out of Port Canaveral the week after Thanksgiving for $1000 cheaper. But if I go on a Christmas cruise it's the same prices as July. So many decisions, lol. Maybe compare with other lines that arent offering that 600 like rcl. Everyone is up but especially carnival, though celebrity too since they went all inclusive to include tips and drinks and wifi. Carnival was only slightly higher when I booked but now its beyond what I'd pay. Maybe they are all high. I didnt check ncl, but rcl high. Just no deals this year left. They have all been picked over. High demand. Edited May 13, 2021 by firefly333 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minerva78 Posted May 13, 2021 #248 Share Posted May 13, 2021 3 hours ago, firefly333 said: Maybe compare with other lines that arent offering that 600 like rcl. Everyone is up but especially carnival, though celebrity too since they went all inclusive to include tips and drinks and wifi. Carnival was only slightly higher when I booked but now its beyond what I'd pay. Maybe they are all high. I didnt check ncl, but rcl high. Just no deals this year left. They have all been picked over. High demand. OMG have you looked at prices for next summer? I thought about pushing it to next year when I have more faith everything will be back to normal. I checked a few 7 day Caribbean cruises that were over $7K for 4 people in a balcony! On Carnival. They have lost their minds. Those are DCL prices. They must be counting on others waiting until next year to cruise and think they will be desperate enough to cruise to pay those prices. Not me. November is looking more and more likely, 3rd and 4th person on the Mardi Gras are $169 + taxes and port fees. We'll all be fully vaccinated by June, and November should be plenty of time for cruise lines to figure out how to handle covid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly333 Posted May 13, 2021 #249 Share Posted May 13, 2021 43 minutes ago, minerva78 said: OMG have you looked at prices for next summer? I thought about pushing it to next year when I have more faith everything will be back to normal. I checked a few 7 day Caribbean cruises that were over $7K for 4 people in a balcony! On Carnival. They have lost their minds. Those are DCL prices. They must be counting on others waiting until next year to cruise and think they will be desperate enough to cruise to pay those prices. Not me. November is looking more and more likely, 3rd and 4th person on the Mardi Gras are $169 + taxes and port fees. We'll all be fully vaccinated by June, and November should be plenty of time for cruise lines to figure out how to handle covid. I checked on ncl boards and see a thread asking if anyone sees any deals. Lol maybe we should start a thread like that here except I dont think there are any. Maybe its just going to cost more to cruise. Most of mine I'm ok with the prices except a spring break oasis friends group. It's a group rate I can cancel but it's pretty hard to swallow even to meet cc friends. Maybe cruise prices will stay this high. I may be cruising less at these prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d12j28 Posted May 13, 2021 #250 Share Posted May 13, 2021 31 minutes ago, firefly333 said: I checked on ncl boards and see a thread asking if anyone sees any deals. Lol maybe we should start a thread like that here except I dont think there are any. Maybe its just going to cost more to cruise. Most of mine I'm ok with the prices except a spring break oasis friends group. It's a group rate I can cancel but it's pretty hard to swallow even to meet cc friends. Maybe cruise prices will stay this high. I may be cruising less at these prices. There's some pretty good casino offers out there. I know that doesn't do you any good if you don't have them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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